A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

[QUOTE=certified;30087515]Your right. It isn't enough. We should try the trick that Mossad does, but on these Mormons rather than Muslims*. Shaking :smug: (I'll let you figure it out, but it usually is capable of causing: Comas, permanent brain damage, death, suicidal thoughts, willingness to spit out information in (violent) interrogations, brain swelling, hallucinations, induced downs syndrome, induced autism, sexual hormone suppression, artificial para(or even quadra!)plegia, mega aneurysm, and many (millions!) of ways for the victim to potentially die!) Waterboarding is used by people who don't know how to interrogate or torture like a man. *I have nothing against Muslims, but Mossad sure does![/QUOTE] You're a sadist

Sorry to say this, but... [sp]we could maybe, post it on 4chan? They fucking hate Mormons.)[/sp]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30087531]This is like those old chain email things. "send dis 2 da 1 u luv or u wil b ugly 2morrow"[/QUOTE] quite an elaborate hoax then, there's only dozens of other accounts of this kind of thing happening

[QUOTE=Artyom;30087523]What the fuck is wrong with you? This shit is real.[/QUOTE] Based on what proof exactly? :smile: I'd love to see.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;30087572]You're a sadist[/QUOTE] Would you rather I suggest strapping them to a revolving bed that sends millions of volts through their body? That would be a terrible, unmanly way to die.

[QUOTE=killover;30087582]Sorry to say this, but... [sp]we could maybe, post it on 4chan? They fucking hate Mormons.)[/QUOTE] as if those kids could do something about it :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;30087538]:colbert: [editline]giant colbert[/editline] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/img/colbert.gif[/img][/QUOTE] The burden of proof is on you, not me. And I'm not convinced.

[QUOTE=killover;30087582]Sorry to say this, but... [sp]we could maybe, post it on 4chan? They fucking hate Mormons.)[/sp][/QUOTE] Posting it anywhere will help, really.

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30087589]Based on what proof exactly? :smile: I'd love to see.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30087599]The burden of proof is on you, not me. And I'm not convinced.[/QUOTE] oh hey, someone hasn't read the article! go to: [url]http://www.caica.org/RESTRAINTS%20Death%20List.htm[/url] you'll have loads of news articles from various sources on the deaths (right column) :colbert:

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;30087456]Its actually pretty smart. Lady Gaga is a huge gay rights activist, and has the most twitter followers. If we get her to actually read the thing, awareness of this will spread to literally millions.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I know most of you don't give a shit about Lady Gaga and probably actively dislike her, but she is one of the biggest gay rights activists around. If enough of us post this to her twitter she'll see it and help spread it to HER friends and connections which are much more powerful than any one of us.

[QUOTE=certified;30087592]Would you rather I suggest strapping them to a revolving bed that sends millions of volts through their body? That would be a terrible, unmanly way to die.[/QUOTE] One thing I hate about the internet is that sometimes it's impossible to tell whether someone is joking or whether they're actually sadistic

[QUOTE=certified;30087592]Would you rather I suggest strapping them to a revolving bed that sends millions of volts through their body? That would be a terrible, unmanly way to die.[/QUOTE] I really, really hate retributivists. I think the concept of retribution is one of the most damaging, disgusting, sadistic qualities people possess. And what's most worrying about it is the sheer scale of people who believe in it.

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;30087595]as if those kids could do something about it :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] If this group had anything to do w/ the internet, it could.

Reading about this makes me positively nauseated..

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30087589]Based on what proof exactly? :smile: I'd love to see.[/QUOTE] Go ask the fucking thousands of kids who graduated from there, you dipshit.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;30087082]So... hunting them down and gutting them like fish[I] isn't[/I] a sick and twisted thing to do.[/QUOTE] Boo fucking hoo. The people who are abusing and brainwashing LGBT teens are sub-human pieces of garbage, not everyone deserves to live.

[QUOTE=Risonhighmer;30087418]Guys, one way we could help stop this is spreading awareness. If we get Lady Gaga to read this story then awareness will go up like CRAZY. If you guys have twitter accounts get her to read the link. Anything we can do to spread the word about this bullshit can help. Use this bit.ly link so that we have a consistent link: [url]http://bit.ly/kfezrp[/url] Lady Gaga's Twitter: [url]http://twitter.com/#!/ladygaga[/url][/QUOTE] Done and done. Once the people with money start speaking out the republicans/fascists will start to bend. They have a tendency to bend to the demands of the rich.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;30087688]Boo fucking hoo. The people who are abusing and brainwashing LGBT teens are sub-human pieces of garbage, not everyone deserves to live.[/QUOTE] Those people are brainwashed themselves by their religion. The education system is really to blame here. If it was based on rationality instead of fair representation of religion then we wouldn't have many of these problems in the first place.

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30087589]Based on what proof exactly? :smile: I'd love to see.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranquility_Bay[/url] [quote] ^ Maia Szalavitz, Bad Economy Killing Abusive Teen Programs, The Huffington Post, January 30, 2009 ^ Home Page. Tranquility Bay. August 13, 2003. Retrieved on October 2, 2010. "Tranquility Bay, Calabash Bay P.A., St. Elizabeth, Jamaica 876-965-0003." ^ a b Decca Aitkenhead, The Last Resort, Observer Magazine, June 29, 2003. ^ TBFight.com: Tranquility Bay & WWASP website ^ Green, Joanne (2006-06-22). "Rough Love". Miami New Times. Retrieved 2010-04-12. ^ a b Tim Weiner, Parents Divided Over Jamaica Disciplinary Academy, The New York Times, June 17, 2003. ^ Pioro, Basia. "Controversy surrounds Tranquility Bay." Caymanian Compass. Tuesday 13 July 2006. Retrieved on 9 August 2010.[/quote]

[QUOTE=certified;30087691]Done and done. Once the people with money start speaking out the republicans/fascists will start to bend. They have a tendency to bend to the demands of the rich.[/QUOTE] Thanks dude. If you have facebook accounts or anything post statuses about it. Spread the word, man.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30087599]The burden of proof is on you, not me. And I'm not convinced.[/QUOTE] lol (at you, not w/ you)

We should make a hash tag thing too, those tend to trend or something. I don't know how twitter works, myself. I barely touch it.

Frankly I'd argue the people in charge of these camps are more justified in their actions than you people would be in your proposed actions. You seem to actively cause suffering and misery to these people. As horrifically fucked up and misguided these people are, but at least they act with respect to what they believe is good (I AM NOT CONDONING THEIR ACTIONS THEY WERE POSITIVELY HORRIFIC AND DISGUSTING). Retribution is just a more disgusting form of "HE STARTED IT" and it makes me sick.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;30087415]Well I'd say not loving them isn't the right thing to do but it isn't the wrong thing either.[/QUOTE] there is no right and wrong everything is subjective XD

[QUOTE=Risonhighmer;30087713]Thanks dude. If you have facebook accounts or anything post statuses about it. Spread the word, man.[/QUOTE] I sent a tweet to Lady Gaga and posted a status on my Facebook a few hours ago.

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;30087614]oh hey, someone hasn't read the article! go to: [url]http://www.caica.org/RESTRAINTS%20Death%20List.htm[/url] you'll have loads of news articles from various sources on the deaths (right column) :colbert:[/QUOTE] What does this prove? Cross Creek or whatever this place is isn't on there.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;30087725]Frankly I'd argue the people in charge of these camps are more justified in their actions than you people would be in your proposed actions. You seem to actively cause suffering and misery to these people. As horrifically fucked up and misguided these people are, but at least they act with respect to what they believe is good (I AM NOT CONDONING THEIR ACTIONS THEY WERE POSITIVELY HORRIFIC AND DISGUSTING). Retribution is just a more disgusting form of "HE STARTED IT" and it makes me sick.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that they were more justified. They might think that what they did was right, but they interfered in people who hadn't done anything to anyone else's lives. They did what they did to these kids not because the kids were hurting anyone, but because they did not like how they lived their lives. That shit is fucked up.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30087761]What does this prove? Cross Creek or whatever this place is isn't on there.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=sp00ks;30087732]there is no right and wrong everything is subjective XD[/QUOTE] well ultimately I don't think there is a right or wrong but it's not subjective either but for this sort of discussion I adopt utilitarianism because it's the most justified moral position lol @ replying seriously to a joke post

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30087761]What does this prove? Cross Creek or whatever this place is isn't on there.[/QUOTE] The place had several name changes.