A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

Holy shit. Reading this shit makes me want to throw up.

[QUOTE=Beezleboss;30081418] [release]Candace Newmaker [img]http://www.caica.org/denver3.jpg[/img] [B]10 years old[/B] 4/18/2000 Evergreen Attachment Center Death resulting from [B]rebirth[/B][/release] I won't post more, but holy fuck... read this shit.[/QUOTE] w-what? WHAT?

[quote]Death resulting from rebirth[/quote] What the actual fuck. I'm hesitant to google it.

Catholic schools in britain were far worse than this. Don't you even TRY to disagree.

[QUOTE=Beezleboss;30081418]I know this isn't WWASP but it's fucking disgusting. [release]Danieal Kelly [img]http://www.caica.org/danieal.jpg[/img] 14 years old Died: 8/4/06 Multiethnic Behavioral Health, Pennsylvania [State Social Services provided services through the City, which contracted with a private company, Multiethnic Behavior Health] [B]Wasted away under the nose of city’s social service agency, weighing just 46 pounds when she died. She had been bedridden, infested with maggots and nearly paralyzed with cerebral palsy, died dehydrated during a heat wave[/B][/release] [release]Eric Roberts 16 years old 2/22/96 Odyssey Harbor Wrapped in plastic foam blanket with velcro for one hour; stopped breathing due to pressure on chest according to autopsy [/release] [release]Cameron Hamilton [img]http://www.caica.org/cameron.jpg[/img] [B]2 years old[/B] 12/5/05 Achieving a Better Life, a day care in Chubbuck Randie Wilhelm and Vickey Stauffer were charged with injury to a child, resisting or obstructing an investigation, and failure to report child abuse. Cameron died December 5th of severe head trauma. [/release] [release]Candace Newmaker [img]http://www.caica.org/denver3.jpg[/img] [B]10 years old[/B] 4/18/2000 Evergreen Attachment Center Death resulting from [B]rebirth[/B][/release] I won't post more, but holy fuck... read this shit.[/QUOTE] That first one is horrifying. And I have no idea what that last one means.

[img]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/MichaelWeekes/facepunch/here.png[/img] There are no words.

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;30081433]I feel horrible for saying this but I hope these scum get maximum sentence before the U.S. decides to get rid of death penalty[/QUOTE] These people should be brought to justice, preferably without the use of a death penalty.

I didnt after the part about the handcuffs. So, Global outrage= infinity?

Stuff like this makes me want to vomit. I see all manners of violence and gore; but when you mix in physical and emotional abuse, trauma, and the fact that these are [i]fucking children[/i] it seriously makes me want to vomit. What fucking human being can possibly look at a child and be so cruel? And I've been with brats before; as much as you detest them, you wouldn't violently beat them, withhold water from them and make them suffer until death.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081460]Catholic schools in britain were far worse than this. Don't you even TRY to disagree.[/QUOTE] Uh, unless they beat and kill children I seriously doubt this.

[QUOTE=Beezleboss;30081194]And then there's this too. [url]http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20Deaths%20List%20of%20Names%20-names%20omitted.htm[/url] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKERS[/QUOTE] Holy shit some of those kids are as young as seven. There has to be a way to stop this.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081460]Catholic schools in britain were far worse than this. Don't you even TRY to disagree.[/QUOTE] What now asshole? I don't see any proof or evidence to suggest kids are being murdered over there in your post and am going to assume it isn't much worse than this.

[QUOTE=TheBrokenHobo;30081472]That first one is horrifying. And I have no idea what that last one means.[/QUOTE] It's alternative medicine garbage.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081460]Catholic schools in britain were far worse than this. Don't you even TRY to disagree.[/QUOTE] There's not much worse than letting a fucking child sit until they're infested with maggots while they're alive.

[QUOTE=Beezleboss;30081522]It's alternative medicine garbage.[/QUOTE] Wow it's like their mixing all the best things in the world together in one place Child abuse, Religion, alternative medicine. Next their going to roll out the ovens and go for racial purity.

Man this is fucked up people have a right to choose their own sexuality and then to be kidnapped and brainwashed is fucked up. Why haven't more people heard of this?

[QUOTE=TheBrokenHobo;30081472]That first one is horrifying. And I have no idea what that last one means.[/QUOTE] Restrained under a heavy ass blanket.

About the rebirthing thing: [quote]Jurors on Tuesday watched a videotape of a fatal "rebirthing" therapy session for the second time as a defendant gave a step-by-step description of the events. Some jurors cried, looked away or covered their faces as they watched the final moments of Candace Newmaker's life, 7NEWS reported. Psychotherapist Connell Watkins, 54, however, showed no emotion as she defended her actions, or lack of them, during the fatal rebirthing session. Watkins said that she had no idea that the 10-year-old girl was in trouble until another therapist, Julie Ponder, uncovered a sheet in which she was wrapped and discovered that she wasn't breathing. Watkins and Ponder, 40, are charged with reckless child abuse resulting in Candace's death. The girl died of asphyxiation after the session last April. Candace was wrapped in a sheet to simulate a womb as adults pushed against her with pillows for 70 minutes. They urged her to emerge reborn and bond with her adoptive mother, Jeane Newmaker of Durham, N.C. About halfway into the session, the tape shows, Candace was asked if she wanted to be reborn. "She says very clearly, 'No,' which tells us she's fine," Watkins (pictured, right) said. "We had no reason right then to be concerned." Watkins said that she never intended or believed that any of her treatments would cause physical harm to Candace. Watkins told the jury that there were air pockets in the blanket which allowed Candace to breathe, 7NEWS reported. When Candace said, "I can't breathe. Please, please, please help me, " Watkins said that she didn't react because Candace "wanted us to believe that she was in jeopardy, and we were real clear she was not." When Candace said on the videotape that she felt that was going to die, the therapists responded, "Go ahead and die," 7NEWS reported. "She was moving around. I could hear her breathing. We had no reason to be concerned," Watkins said. As the rebirthing session passed the hour mark without a response from Candace, Watkins said that she still wasn't concerned. "Stubborn defiance. I think then, as I still do, Candace was going to wait us out," Watkins said. But prosecutors said that Candace was not defiant and not waiting out anybody. Authorities claim that Candace had stopped breathing for more than 20 minutes before Watkins and Ponder unwrapped her and found her lifeless body. During Watkin's cross-examination, prosecutors pointed out that there was no outside evidence to prove that Candace had the kind of extreme problems that the therapists described. Watkins said that Ponder was in charge of the rebirthing session and was the one checking on Candace's welfare. When her lawyer, Craig Truman, asked her about a gesture that she makes on the tape, Watkins said, "I wanted Julie to unwrap her and check on her. I thought (Candace) fell asleep. Julie said, 'Oh, she's fine. She's a little sweaty, but she's fine."' Ponder's lawyer, Jean Heller, said that she would decide whether to have Ponder testify after Truman finishes his presentation. The defense has raised questions about Candace's medical condition at the time of the therapy, pointing out she was on medications for attention deficit disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder and attachment disorder. Watkins was treating Candace for attachment disorder, which makes children resist loving relationships and can make them violent and unmanageable. The day before the rebirthing session, Watkins said, Candace had a minor breakthrough. When Jeane Newmaker left the room at Watkins' request, Candace cried. "She said, 'I'm crying because my mother left me,"' Watkins said. "It was like a hole through her armor," she said. "She has the armor of a Roman soldier going to war." Watkins decided to follow up the next day with the rebirthing session. "I wanted to build on that with the rebirthing technique," she said. Watkins said that she learned the rebirthing technique in the fall of 1999 and had participated in four other sessions. She said she believed that it was safe and had never seen problems with it. Candace's biological grandmother, Mary Davis, and her husband, David Davis, left the courtroom when they learned that the videotape would be shown again Tuesday. They have not seen the tape and said that they do not plan to watch it. The Davises were present when Gov. Bill Owens signed a bill Tuesday banning rebirthing therapy in Colorado. The new law makes the controversial therapy a misdemeanor, punishable by time in jail or a fine, 7NEWS reported. The Davises were at the state capitol Tuesday to present a plaque with Candace's picture to Owens and several other lawmakers who made the law possible. "She paid the price for this, and in her name, this abuse, this total control by extremist therapists, can stop," David Davis said. Copyright 2002 by TheDenverChannel.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.[/quote]

The kinds of people that support these programs make me sick. Goddamn you right wing republicans.

Think what you want but come back when you have done some research please, this story about kids being bullied in that school ain't got nothing on catholic schools. Kids were beaten and a few murdered, many hung themselves and were treated like slaves for some regime.

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;30081579]Restrained under a heavy ass blanket.[/QUOTE] What? Why would you ever......

[QUOTE=Lucinice;30081511]Holy shit some of those kids are as young as seven. There has to be a way to stop this.[/QUOTE] As long as dogma exists people will make institutions like this.

They should never have been allowed to get away with that kind of thing in the first place.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081460]Catholic schools in britain were far worse than this. Don't you even TRY to disagree.[/QUOTE] Lol Teach give you a bad grade?

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081589]Think what you want but come back when you have done some research please, this story about kids being bullied in that school ain't got nothing on catholic schools. Kids were beaten and a few murdered, many hung themselves and were treated like slaves for some regime.[/QUOTE] Does it really fucking matter?

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;30081589]Think what you want but come back when you have done some research please, this story about kids being bullied in that school ain't got nothing on catholic schools. Kids were beaten and a few murdered, many hung themselves and were treated like slaves for some regime.[/QUOTE] This is pretty much the exact same fucking thing. Seriously. It's apples and oranges.

I am Christian and I don't like homosexuality but I can't deny them the unalienable rights just because of their gender. So many Christians I know just blindly "hate" Gays (If they hate anybody, tell them they don't love God because its true) and say they don't agree with gay marriage. The thing they don't know is married couples get special tax breaks whereas single people do not. I think this place is disgusting and only if somebody feels they don't want (or need) to be a certain way should this be even CONSIDERED being allowed (obviously with strict regulation to where you can't brainwash kids and ect) uugh. This world...

[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;30081619]I am Christian and I [B]don't like homosexuality[/B] blah blah something[/QUOTE] in what way?

[b] woah [/b] This kind of shit comes straight from 1984. It's very, very hard for me to say that the united states as a whole is a modern 1st world country with shit like this happening.

I am utterly sickened that this horrid stuff exists in the 21st Century. We're better than this, yet these people who willingly do this sort of shit are the scum of the human race. Why has nobody even tried to punish these people for their actions?