A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility
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[QUOTE=yuki;30100455]I honestly wish I could but I'm not sure how I'd even get to Utah. But for sure, something needs to happen NOW.[/QUOTE]
If you do, don't forget a disguise. I recommend hooded sweaters and masks of some form and gloves so your fingerprints dont show.
I think all you guys would need to do is sit around at the public border of the camp and get testimonies from the kids leaving and hit the camp with a speedy search warrant. :v:
for some reason
i thought of going there, just to have a hulk moment when they try to restrain me
hell, someone should make a documentary of this, having hidden cameras and vlogs, youtubing and widespread emailing them
maybe then this will get some adequate attention
[QUOTE=lorden;30100522]I think all you guys would need to do is sit around at the public border of the camp and get testimonies from the kids leaving and hit the camp with a speedy search warrant. :v:[/QUOTE]
Thats actually a good idea.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;30094639]Please stop the earth, i want to get off now.
Once we have the resources to allow Space travel to pedestrians, I'm right off. Or perhaps when we inforce IQ related breeding laws. It'll have to happen one day people! One or the other...[/QUOTE]
"Or perhaps when we inforce IQ related breeding laws." wat
I fucking remember the whole Aspen Achievement Academy story that was posted on here. Nothing makes me angrier than reading that these types of places still exist.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;30094919]
Those terrible things are the minority.[/QUOTE]
You really honestly think, American culture is fine? That it somehow doesn't have this ass-backwards hedonist state of hatred of all things foreign to them?
Pay attention to your country for 5 minutes, and tell me they're still the minority.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;30081082]Utah =/= the U.S.
I'm not defending this, but Utah is the only state that I could visualize which would accept something like this.
Maybe Texas.[/QUOTE]
I'm gay and this state is just fine, thank you very much. :V
Except for spawning Bush. You can have him.
*Cough, Cough* [url]https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia/index.html[/url]
I know im reporting it.
[QUOTE=amute;30100811]You really honestly think, American culture is fine? That it somehow doesn't have this ass-backwards hedonist state of hatred of all things foreign to them?
Pay attention to your country for 5 minutes, and tell me they're still the minority.[/QUOTE]
The police are corrupt. One of my friend's brothers was found lying facedown in a river in New Jersey, [b]75 miles away from where he was supposed to be[/b], stripped of all clothes, and the police ruled it a suicide and never initiated an investigation.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;30095184]Yet, people like that exist all over the world. You think Americans are the only people that can be bigoted? You described human beings, not Americans. We do terrible things, no matter where we are from. [/QUOTE]
Well, Europe has a huge problem with bigotry, as does pretty much every country.
However, it's NEARLY not even close to that of the United States.
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[QUOTE=FFStudios;30100889]The police are corrupt. One of my friend's brothers was found lying facedown in a river in New Jersey, [b]75 miles away from where he was supposed to be[/b], stripped of all clothes, and the police ruled it a suicide and never initiated an investigation.[/QUOTE]
That's part of it.
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[QUOTE=MaverickIB;30095250]Oh, because writing more about one thing suggests that I care more about it. I suppose I should have written a few paragraphs on how I'd love to beat the shit out of the guys that hurt those children and shit like that, stuff that has been said a million times.
I thought this was a discussion thread, not a nerd revenge fantasy thread. Forgive me for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]
You can stop being a total twat at anytime, y'know.
I'm sure this picture's been posted in the thread but this is fucking [b]ridiculous HOW DO THE POLICE NOT STOP THIS[/b]
[img]http://www.caica.org/Matthew%20restraint.jpg[/img]
[b]He was restrained in this position for [highlight]16 months straight[/highlight][/b]
[QUOTE=Judas;30081583]About the rebirthing thing:
[QUOTE]Jurors on Tuesday watched a videotape of a fatal "rebirthing" therapy session for the second time as a defendant gave a step-by-step description of the events.
Some jurors cried, looked away or covered their faces as they watched the final moments of Candace Newmaker's life, 7NEWS reported.
Psychotherapist Connell Watkins, 54, however, showed no emotion as she defended her actions, or lack of them, during the fatal rebirthing session.
Watkins said that she had no idea that the 10-year-old girl was in trouble until another therapist, Julie Ponder, uncovered a sheet in which she was wrapped and discovered that she wasn't breathing.
Watkins and Ponder, 40, are charged with reckless child abuse resulting in Candace's death. The girl died of asphyxiation after the session last April.
Candace was wrapped in a sheet to simulate a womb as adults pushed against her with pillows for 70 minutes. They urged her to emerge reborn and bond with her adoptive mother, Jeane Newmaker of Durham, N.C.
About halfway into the session, the tape shows, Candace was asked if she wanted to be reborn.
"She says very clearly, 'No,' which tells us she's fine," Watkins (pictured, right) said. "We had no reason right then to be concerned."
Watkins said that she never intended or believed that any of her treatments would cause physical harm to Candace. Watkins told the jury that there were air pockets in the blanket which allowed Candace to breathe, 7NEWS reported.
When Candace said, "I can't breathe. Please, please, please help me, " Watkins said that she didn't react because Candace "wanted us to believe that she was in jeopardy, and we were real clear she was not."
When Candace said on the videotape that she felt that was going to die, the therapists responded, "Go ahead and die," 7NEWS reported.
"She was moving around. I could hear her breathing. We had no reason to be concerned," Watkins said.
As the rebirthing session passed the hour mark without a response from Candace, Watkins said that she still wasn't concerned.
"Stubborn defiance. I think then, as I still do, Candace was going to wait us out," Watkins said.
But prosecutors said that Candace was not defiant and not waiting out anybody. Authorities claim that Candace had stopped breathing for more than 20 minutes before Watkins and Ponder unwrapped her and found her lifeless body.
During Watkin's cross-examination, prosecutors pointed out that there was no outside evidence to prove that Candace had the kind of extreme problems that the therapists described.
Watkins said that Ponder was in charge of the rebirthing session and was the one checking on Candace's welfare.
When her lawyer, Craig Truman, asked her about a gesture that she makes on the tape, Watkins said, "I wanted Julie to unwrap her and check on her. I thought (Candace) fell asleep. Julie said, 'Oh, she's fine. She's a little sweaty, but she's fine."'
Ponder's lawyer, Jean Heller, said that she would decide whether to have Ponder testify after Truman finishes his presentation.
The defense has raised questions about Candace's medical condition at the time of the therapy, pointing out she was on medications for attention deficit disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder and attachment disorder.
Watkins was treating Candace for attachment disorder, which makes children resist loving relationships and can make them violent and unmanageable.
The day before the rebirthing session, Watkins said, Candace had a minor breakthrough. When Jeane Newmaker left the room at Watkins' request, Candace cried.
"She said, 'I'm crying because my mother left me,"' Watkins said.
"It was like a hole through her armor," she said. "She has the armor of a Roman soldier going to war."
Watkins decided to follow up the next day with the rebirthing session. "I wanted to build on that with the rebirthing technique," she said.
Watkins said that she learned the rebirthing technique in the fall of 1999 and had participated in four other sessions. She said she believed that it was safe and had never seen problems with it.
Candace's biological grandmother, Mary Davis, and her husband, David Davis, left the courtroom when they learned that the videotape would be shown again Tuesday. They have not seen the tape and said that they do not plan to watch it.
The Davises were present when Gov. Bill Owens signed a bill Tuesday banning rebirthing therapy in Colorado.
The new law makes the controversial therapy a misdemeanor, punishable by time in jail or a fine, 7NEWS reported. The Davises were at the state capitol Tuesday to present a plaque with Candace's picture to Owens and several other lawmakers who made the law possible.
"She paid the price for this, and in her name, this abuse, this total control by extremist therapists, can stop," David Davis said.
Copyright 2002 by TheDenverChannel.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
Fuck Republicans, Prejudice Americans and Religious psychopaths alike.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;30101053]I'm sure this picture's been posted in the thread but this is fucking [b]ridiculous HOW DO THE POLICE NOT STOP THIS[/b]
[img]http://www.caica.org/Matthew%20restraint.jpg[/img]
[b]He was restrained in this position for [highlight]16 months straight[/highlight][/b][/QUOTE]
I don't understand how that's even possible.
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I mean, seriously. 16 months in that position? How?
[QUOTE=Smooth Criminal;30101124]Fuck Republicans, Prejudice Americans and Christian psychopaths alike.[/QUOTE]
Again with your stupid fucking LOL BLAME EVERYTHING ON REPUBLICUNTS AMERICUNTS AND CHRISTIANS :downs:
[QUOTE=Turnips5;30101130]I don't understand how that's even possible.
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I mean, seriously. 16 months in that position? How?[/QUOTE]
For food and nutrition they were probably force-fed. Don't understand how the rest would work though.
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[QUOTE=Strongbad;30101209]Again with your stupid fucking LOL BLAME EVERYTHING ON REPUBLICUNTS AMERICUNTS AND CHRISTIANS :downs:[/QUOTE]
PREJUDICE Americans and Religious PSYCHOPATHS.
This stuff isn't right.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;30101053]I'm sure this picture's been posted in the thread but this is fucking [b]ridiculous HOW DO THE POLICE NOT STOP THIS[/b]
[img]http://www.caica.org/Matthew%20restraint.jpg[/img]
[b]He was restrained in this position for [highlight]16 months straight[/highlight][/b][/QUOTE]
No, this is BEYOND fucked up. Someone needs to end this shit right now.
[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;30082286]Oh my god..
[SP]Krystal defied Tibbets (her adoptive father), so he laid her down in the hallway of the family’s Midvale, Utah, home. According to transcripts, Tibbets pushed his fist into the girl’s stomach for 15 minutes. During the session, Krystal vomited before she stopped breathing. She died the next day in a hospital. He was taught this "treatment" from the Family Attachment Center.[/SP]
[SP]THAT WAS A 3 YEAR OLD[/SP]
spoilered because its horrific[/QUOTE]
Some people shouldn't have the right to raise children or to be out of a fucking padded cell.
Wasn't this talked about in a Michael Moore documentary?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8VLEHQm9is[/media]
Gives a glimpse into the sick facility and kidnappers.
[QUOTE=TraderRager;30083238]*cough* [url]http://www.crosscreekprogram.com/ccc/contact_us.asp[/url] *cough*[/QUOTE]
I was thinking about actually calling the number. Should I?
[QUOTE=Carne;30101708]Wasn't this talked about in a Michael Moore documentary?[/QUOTE]
In Capitalism: A Love story. It was about judge Mark Ciavarella and their for-profit prisons.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;30101431]After that much time you'd need physical therapy if you ever hoped to be able to move properly again. This is cruel and just not meant to happen.[/QUOTE]
He ended up dying.
How the fuck do these places exist, how the fuck does this happen?
This doesn't surprise me, it's america after all
[QUOTE=DrBreen;30101996]This doesn't surprise me, it's america after all[/QUOTE]
What fucked up fantasy world do you live in where the United States has Orwellian rehabilitation camps?
[QUOTE=DrBreen;30101996]This doesn't surprise me, it's america after all[/QUOTE]
Yes, because one small cult reflects the behaviour of the millions of people living in the US
[QUOTE=Puddlez?;30102126]Yes, because one small cult reflects the behaviour of the millions of people living in the US[/QUOTE]
The ideology of most of FP.
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Also this thread is full of horrible things :smithicide:
this thread makes me sick
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