A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;30103372]Since when was the WWASP a threat to the world???[/QUOTE] Since we saw this thread.

I try to remain proud of my country, but everyday, it gets harder.

I really want to carry out my dream and start an extra-judicial mercenary organization, that is above the law and works based on contracts. We would of course have standards such as "no killing of civilians" and we would train these elite special forces operatives for many years. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You are not Judge Dredd. Go see a therapist." - daijitsu))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;30103412]Killing hostile soldiers is completely different from mercilessly slaughtering WWASP agents.[/QUOTE] Killing hostile WWASP agents who kidnap CHILDREN FROM THEIR HOMES AGAINST THEIR WILL TO TAKE THEM TO WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY CONCENTRATION CAMPS is evil! :downs: /caps /rant

I have no problem torturing them or putting them in jail either one would be fine

[QUOTE=Squall;30103359]No one said they would murder them, but it would be nice to do. I would have no qualms with doing it myself, but I don't have the resources to carry out such an operation.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Squall;30102873]I should pretend I'm gay, convince my parents to sign a contract with these people to kidnap me. And then murder them when they break into my home to kidnap me. And then I'll do it again and again and again, and just keep murdering more of these bastards. It would be self-defense. I hope they send all of their employees after me, I'm 18, I'll buy a gun and kill every last one of them, and it would be legal too. I wish I could mutilate their corpses too, but that might get me in some trouble with the law.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matrix374;30103452]I have no problem torturing them or put them in jail either one would be fine[/QUOTE] Why stop there? Justice needs to be served.

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;30103207]Harming them won't solve anything.[/QUOTE] Imagine this, [b]YOUR PARENTS[/b] sent you there because your not their perfect child, You cant be yourself, You cant look at anyone else, You dont have internet access, If you disobey them your beaten and abused, You are not allowed to socialize with ANYONE, Nobody gives a shit about you in there, You are not allowed to have a girlfriend, If your female and you dont obay their rules you get raped, You can be in there as long as [b]YOUR PARENTS[/b] want you to be in there, Oh and you cant fap. Just imagine your in that situation. Wouldn't you want to get those scum of the earth?

[QUOTE=Squall;30103464]Why stop there? Justice needs to be served.[/QUOTE] IMO torturing them is way better than killing them oh he's banned

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30103439]Killing hostile WWASP agents who kidnap CHILDREN FROM THEIR HOMES AGAINST THEIR WILL TO TAKE THEM TO WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY CONCENTRATION CAMPS is evil! :downs: /caps /rant[/QUOTE] Killing people isn't even eye for an eye, putting them in prison is the best equivalent. No one learns a lesson if they die, if you want [i]true[/i] suffering and repentance for the faulters of their life, make them sit in a prison cell for 40 years straight. all of this "Hurr durr I'ma kill them myself hold up let me make bombs and shank the kidnappers" attitude just makes you look like you're trying to overcompensate for something. Stop trying to be internet tough guys, this is the real world you're telling to come at you.

[QUOTE=DarkendSky;30103389]I try to remain proud of my country, but everyday, it gets harder.[/QUOTE] Why remain proud of a country? I'm not proud of the UK, although I will defend its good policies and vote against terrible ones. There's no inherent reason to be proud of where you were born. You didn't have a choice to be born where you were. Even if you moved to the US from another country, there's no reason to be proud of the country itself.

Shit like this makes me want to go to one of those schools. You're going to come into my room in the middle of the night, take me from my home, my friends and everyone I love? That's nice, you're going to regret it. All the shit that's happened to me my fault? How? Oh, you're going to hurt me? People are going to find out. You're going to torture me to death? I'm going to laugh at you as I die, because people will know what you've done. You think you can keep me here? Better think twice. You think you can break me? You're going to hurt yourself trying. You think you've broken everyone else? That may be true, but I'm one hell of a repairman.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;30103541]Killing people isn't even eye for an eye, putting them in prison is the best equivalent. No one learns a lesson if they die, if you want [I]true[/I] suffering and repentance for the faulters of their life, make them sit in a prison cell for 40 years straight. all of this "Hurr durr I'ma kill them myself hold up let me make bombs and shank the kidnappers" attitude just makes you look like you're trying to overcompensate for something. Stop trying to be internet tough guys, this is the real world you're telling to come at you.[/QUOTE] Same thing goes for trying to make yourself out to be 'mature' and 'smart.' I never said anything about wanting to kill them. I said that the idea that killing them makes you as bad as them is socks on hands underwear on head RETARDED. Squall was the one who was channeling Dirty Harry by way of the .357 S&W special-wielding lawyerjudge from that one TV show who's name escapes me.

Hi folks. I'm not the OP of the story you're talking about, but I've done similar Q&As for Reddit about my experiences with Teen Escort and two WWASP schools. I'm actually doing another Q&A with my mother right now on Reddit, if you guys want to ask some questions, we'd love to have you. Registering for an account with reddit takes all of 15 seconds and doesn't require an email. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/hmd9j/iama_mother_who_had_her_son_escorted_to_two_wwasp/[/url] We also are working to raise awareness about the places using our new Subreddit, /r/TroubledTeens ([url]http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens[/url]), so feel free to stop by and take a look around.

[QUOTE=Morte;30103723]Hi folks. I'm not the OP of the story you're talking about, but I've done similar Q&As for Reddit about my experiences with Teen Escort and two WWASP schools. I'm actually doing another Q&A with my mother right now on Reddit, if you guys want to ask some questions, we'd love to have you. Registering for an account with reddit takes all of 15 seconds and doesn't require an email. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/hmd9j/iama_mother_who_had_her_son_escorted_to_two_wwasp/[/URL] We also are working to raise awareness about the places using our new Subreddit, /r/TroubledTeens ([URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens[/URL]), so feel free to stop by and take a look around.[/QUOTE] Your mother is about to catch hell from an entire forum's worth of people, just a fair warning. [editline]28th May 2011[/editline] and it doesn't help that she's unrepentant about sending her child to a concentration camp either.

Reminds me of that movie where that girl with drug problems gets sent to this island which, reading the story, kind of operates the same way, then her boyfriend come in and bahlalhlblahllbalh they fuck shit up. And I thought that movie was fake... Kind of terrifying to know something like this happens :saddowns:

[QUOTE=johnlmonkey;30085653]I have a feeling the wikipedia page was made by staff members of the actual program because it has no mention of the offenses agains it, I just added this testimony to it [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Creek_Programs[/url][/QUOTE] I don't see the testimony, so either Wikipedia or the staff deleted it. Also, this is just fucking terrible.

[QUOTE=Morte;30103723]Hi folks. I'm not the OP of the story you're talking about, but I've done similar Q&As for Reddit about my experiences with Teen Escort and two WWASP schools. I'm actually doing another Q&A with my mother right now on Reddit, if you guys want to ask some questions, we'd love to have you. Registering for an account with reddit takes all of 15 seconds and doesn't require an email. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/hmd9j/iama_mother_who_had_her_son_escorted_to_two_wwasp/[/url] We also are working to raise awareness about the places using our new Subreddit, /r/TroubledTeens ([url]http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens[/url]), so feel free to stop by and take a look around.[/QUOTE] What reason was given for you getting sent there in the first place? I won't ask a question myself as I'm pretty sure other people will have all the bases covered, but instead I'll just say I admire anyone who has come out of there alive and sane.

[QUOTE=Squall;30103430][highlight](User was banned for this post ("You are not Judge Dredd. Go see a therapist." - daijitsu))[/highlight][/QUOTE]Best ban reason i've seen in a while, thanks for the giggle daijitsu :v:

part of the reason why they can do a lot of this shit in utah is because children legally have no rights in utah. and once they're out of the states, they're always sent to a place without extradition and then they literally have no rights, and no hope nought for the light at the end of the very very very long tunnel

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30103679]Same thing goes for trying to make yourself out to be 'mature' and 'smart.' I never said anything about wanting to kill them. I said that the idea that killing them makes you as bad as them is socks on hands underwear on head RETARDED. Squall was the one who was channeling Dirty Harry by way of the .357 S&W special-wielding lawyerjudge from that one TV show who's name escapes me.[/QUOTE] Kinda my job, boyo. We've been seeing "I'd kill them if they came for me!" posts all through this thread. Unfortunately your post made it out that you were defending the fact that killing them isn't a bad thing. I'm all for punishment, but the problem here is the fact that kids in this thread thinks they think violence from the masses (an uprising of teens who feel these places could come for them?) will be the answer. Obviously the camps known for incarcerating problem and violent teens wouldn't be prepared for some kids kicking and screaming, nor would they find that at all reason enough to continue operation.

Seriously, this would never happen anywhere besides in Utah, please don't hate the U.S. because of this.

[QUOTE=kaine123;30104673]Seriously, this would never happen anywhere besides in Utah, please don't hate the U.S. because of this.[/QUOTE] seeing as how the camps are mormon based, in Utah of all places, where the moremun religion was birthed... you could blame mormonism for a large part of this.

Mormon = Moron

[QUOTE=Strongbad;30103765]Your mother is about to catch hell from an entire forum's worth of people, just a fair warning. [editline]28th May 2011[/editline] and it doesn't help that she's unrepentant about sending her child to a concentration camp either.[/QUOTE] I'm the one actually tying responses and asking her the questions. And she is absolutely not happy with the way things went, what happened while I was there, and the lies that went on. She openly admits that she would never make that same mistake again. I fail to see how that's anything other than repentant. [QUOTE=Turnips5;30103949]What reason was given for you getting sent there in the first place? I won't ask a question myself as I'm pretty sure other people will have all the bases covered, but instead I'll just say I admire anyone who has come out of there alive and sane.[/QUOTE] I'm actually about to answer that question on reddit if you want to check over there.

[QUOTE=Morte;30105064]I'm actually about to answer that question on reddit if you want to check over there.[/QUOTE] Cheers. Also, I just realised I asked you a question and then said I wasn't going to ask any questions :doh: I meant I won't be asking questions on reddit.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;30105243]Cheers. Also, I just realised I asked you a question and then said I wasn't going to ask any questions :doh: I meant I won't be asking questions on reddit.[/QUOTE] Haha, it's fine, I understood. [editline]28th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=kaine123;30104673]Seriously, this would never happen anywhere besides in Utah, please don't hate the U.S. because of this.[/QUOTE] WWASP had schools in Utah, Mississippi, Iowa, Nevada, Louisiana, New York, California, South Carolina, Georgia, Colorado, Montana, Mexico, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Czech Republic, and Samoa.

It's not like they were out-and-out kidnapped. Their parents signed them up.

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;30105503]It's not like they were out-and-out kidnapped. Their parents signed them up.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure which is worse.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME [url]http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20DEATHS%20MATTHEW%20GOODMAN%20MAIN.htm[/url]