A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

Well, after reading through this whole thread, I can pretty easily say after seeing all the dead little kids, all the horror stories, all the broken survivors stories, the bastards that enable these facilities and the monsters who ship their kids to these kinds of places, fuck the people who run these facilities and fuck everyone who thinks like them, right to the worst reaches of whatever Hell that might exist.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;30118172]If I've sent this to the wrong address please be so kind as to forward it to a more appropriate one.[/QUOTE] That's a good idea to state that in case it is the wrong email or you've sent it to a letters address, good job. Thank you

[QUOTE=Ninel;30118058] [code]comments@foxnews.com[/code] [/QUOTE] I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea to send anything about this to Fox News. They're outrageously biased towards the conservative side, who are much more "for" this, and they might twist the story to make it look like the kids are in the wrong.

[QUOTE=Fhenexx;30118562]I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea to send anything about this to Fox News. They're outrageously biased towards the conservative side, who are much more "for" this, and they might twist the story to make it look like the kids are in the wrong.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I forgot about that, thanks. I'll edit the list now.

[QUOTE=Tim Henson;30116402]How can nobody have sued them by now?[/QUOTE] They have been, are currently being, and will be again. Problem is, they have a lot of money, and a lot of influence, the law on their side, and the burden of proof on the victims' side. It's an uphill struggle.

There are several addresses which it failed to send to for me, does anyone else have the same problem?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/16xad.png[/IMG] Hopefully he'll personally read it

What the hell... :frown:

Getting a ticket to America, buying a gun, Going to Utah WWASP facility, remember me.

[QUOTE=Chickens!;30119852]Getting a ticket to America, buying a gun, Going to Utah WWASP facility, remember me.[/QUOTE] I know you're joking, but it wouldn't do any good. The people at the facility day-to-day are all just grunt workers, mostly minimum wage workers, some of which were decent. The school higher ups almost never show up, and the WWASP higher ups NEVER showed up.

My parents threatened me that if I don't behave they would send me to a school like this (Boarding School). :ohdear:

Shits fucked.

[QUOTE=desertsniper;30120000]Shits fucked.[/QUOTE] And what's even more fucked is that there are 7 still operating in America, while Mexico has only one left and another one Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=GeneralFredrik;30120522]And what's even more fucked is that there are 7 still operating in America, while Mexico has only one left and another one Costa Rica.[/QUOTE] And they could easily start another facility if they wish or if one of the facilities in Costa Rica or Mexico is closed down, they have enough money which is one of the unfortunate things.

[QUOTE=Ninel;30120640]And they could easily start another facility if they wish or if one of the facilities in Costa Rica or Mexico is closed down, they have enough money which is one of the unfortunate things.[/QUOTE] These places close and reopen all the time. They'll go through name changes, regime changes, but it's always the same result. WWASP isn't the only group to do this either. There are dozens of facilities like this in Utah alone, due to favorable legislation there.

[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/comments/hmulk/are_you_horrified_these_facilities_are_abusing/[/url]

[QUOTE=Morte;30120806]These places close and reopen all the time. They'll go through name changes, regime changes, but it's always the same result. WWASP isn't the only group to do this either. There are dozens of facilities like this in Utah alone, due to favorable legislation there.[/QUOTE] Are the other facilities you talk about religious i.e. Mormon or Christian or do they have something else backing them?

I might be banned for this but I found a exploit in the Cross Creek Intranet login and I came to this page. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek.PNG[/img] I don't know what to do next, it's something at least. Any suggestions? Oh and here is the link to the intranet page [url]http://crosscreekcenter.ws[/url]

Add the Redit pages to testimonials Add some stuff to FAQ: ei: its like a prison

This angers me so much it's unbelievable. I thank my mom and dad for not sending me to one of those facilities because of my sexuality.

[QUOTE=Mr.T;30121128]I might be banned for this but I found a exploit in the Cross Creek Intranet login and I came to this page. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek.PNG[/img] I don't know what to do next, it's something at least. Any suggestions? Oh and here is the link to the intranet page [url]http://crosscreekcenter.ws[/url][/QUOTE] Take it down. Or post the truth on it or something.

[QUOTE=Ninel;30120897]Are the other facilities you talk about religious i.e. Mormon or Christian or do they have something else backing them?[/QUOTE] They run the spectrum. There are Mormon schools, Baptist schools, secular schools, government funded schools, privately funded schools, schools in a ton of states and countries, schools that have court-ordered enrollees, schools that are volunteer-only. I can't attest to abuses at all of these places, but pretty much any scenario where you depend on people with no government oversight to not abuse their power, they're going to abuse the shit out of it. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bordercrosser;30121220]This angers me so much it's unbelievable. I thank my mom and dad for not sending me to one of those facilities because of my sexuality.[/QUOTE] It's funny, while I was at Tranquility Bay, another WWASP school, I was accused of being gay and hiding it. Jamaican's are exceptionally homophobic, and they basically hurled gay slurs as their go-to insult.

[QUOTE=Mr.T;30121128]I might be banned for this but I found a exploit in the Cross Creek Intranet login and I came to this page. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek.PNG[/img] I don't know what to do next, it's something at least. Any suggestions? Oh and here is the link to the intranet page [url]http://crosscreekcenter.ws[/url][/QUOTE] [Quote][list][*]Referred by: the person or internet site, the actual source of the referral (Teen 5000, Focus) [*]Source of lead: how did they find the phone number [*] Special Remarks: parent referral, flyer, code name or number [*] Initial contact: the assigned person to work this lead [*] Phone contact: first phone contact person [*] Time Zone: time zone of client [*] Lead ID: automatic [*] Referred date: auto assigned [*] General notes: enter any information about initial contact with client (i.e. called in the middle of the night, emergency situation etc. [*] Date Packet mailed: automatically assigned, no entry necessary [*] Lead classification: status of the lead (hot, cold, entered program etc.) [*] Which program: this is not about the program you talked about, sent enrollment or such; this is the program you submitted the pre-admit to [*] Date submitted: when you submitted the pre-admit Date contract mailed: when you mailed enrollment agreement to client [*] Payment arrangements: how will they pay [*] Referring search engine: no entry required [*] Follow-up history: your contacts with the client, whatever it is (talked, sent, etc.) [*] Next follow-up date: enter the next date you wish to contact this individual, this will save you lot of time, because you can pull these people up on a daily basis on the pre-admit search screen and work them [*] Pre-admit misc. notes: contacts between the counselor and the program [*] Chat-log: future enhancement to be implemented soon (when Jeni gets ready) [*] Key-words: if there is nothing there, don’t worry; don’t write anything there [*] Program Information: Results from program submission: was the child approved or not [*] [b]Date student arrived: THIS IS THE WAY YOU GET PAID; ENTER THIS DATE OR YOU WILL NOT GET CREDIT FOR THIS CHILD[/b] [*] Special handling instruction: has to do only with the way the packet is mailed; if you inted to use standard mailing procedure, no entry is necessary; standard mailing is UPS Ground, only works for UPS Service type: overnight or ground or second day etc. [*] Billing option: always accept default, which is prepaid [*] Package type: PAK or letter or box etc [*] Shipper to be used: select the right shipper (P.O. Boxes are USPS; not necessary to enter because gals at the shipping office will pull them anyway) [*] Package weight: normally 2 lbs [*] Ship outside US: have to fill out everything, name & complete shipping address [*] Ship From: which return address you want to appear on the package; if you want your card to go in the package, fill this out [*] Special handling info: whatever extra info the gals need (maybe two packets, include parent reference, DVD instead of VHS, include enrollment agreement, etc.) [*] Phonecontact will do the mailing: if the lead comes in late in the day and you still want to get it out that day, or any other reason you want to mail it yourself [*]Who will mail the packet: counselor’s name SAVE!!![/list] [/quote] From the help page, bolded what jumped out at me. redid them in list form so it's not as much an eye sore.

Alright, it seems this exploit I found leads to some kind of a parents page. Clicking on help in the top right corner of the page leads to this text. [quote]Referred by: the person or internet site, the actual source of the referral (Teen 5000, Focus) Source of lead: how did they find the phone number Special Remarks: parent referral, flyer, code name or number Initial contact: the assigned person to work this lead Phone contact: first phone contact person Time Zone: time zone of client Lead ID: automatic Referred date: auto assigned General notes: enter any information about initial contact with client (i.e. called in the middle of the night, emergency situation etc. Date Packet mailed: automatically assigned, no entry necessary Lead classification: status of the lead (hot, cold, entered program etc.) Which program: this is not about the program you talked about, sent enrollment or such; this is the program you submitted the pre-admit to Date submitted: when you submitted the pre-admit Date contract mailed: when you mailed enrollment agreement to client Payment arrangements: how will they pay Referring search engine: no entry required Follow-up history: your contacts with the client, whatever it is (talked, sent, etc.) Next follow-up date: enter the next date you wish to contact this individual, this will save you lot of time, because you can pull these people up on a daily basis on the pre-admit search screen and work them Pre-admit misc. notes: contacts between the counselor and the program Chat-log: future enhancement to be implemented soon (when Jeni gets ready) Key-words: if there is nothing there, don’t worry; don’t write anything there Program Information: Results from program submission: was the child approved or not Date student arrived: THIS IS THE WAY YOU GET PAID; ENTER THIS DATE OR YOU WILL NOT GET CREDIT FOR THIS CHILD Special handling instruction: has to do only with the way the packet is mailed; if you inted to use standard mailing procedure, no entry is necessary; standard mailing is UPS Ground, only works for UPS Service type: overnight or ground or second day etc. Billing option: always accept default, which is prepaid Package type: PAK or letter or box etc Shipper to be used: select the right shipper (P.O. Boxes are USPS; not necessary to enter because gals at the shipping office will pull them anyway) Package weight: normally 2 lbs Ship outside US: have to fill out everything, name & complete shipping address Ship From: which return address you want to appear on the package; if you want your card to go in the package, fill this out Special handling info: whatever extra info the gals need (maybe two packets, include parent reference, DVD instead of VHS, include enrollment agreement, etc.) Phonecontact will do the mailing: if the lead comes in late in the day and you still want to get it out that day, or any other reason you want to mail it yourself Who will mail the packet: counselor’s name SAVE!!! [/quote] [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] Fuckin' Ninjad by a milisecond

[QUOTE=Mr.T;30121128]I might be banned for this but I found a exploit in the Cross Creek Intranet login and I came to this page. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek.PNG[/img] I don't know what to do next, it's something at least. Any suggestions? Oh and here is the link to the intranet page [url]http://crosscreekcenter.ws[/url][/QUOTE] Got there WAAAAYYYY Before you, Here is our current progress, They are running Windows Server 2003 R2, They are running IIS 6.0, They are running Filezilla V0.9 Something, The Help page is vulnerable to MySQL Injection, Ports 554, 587, 3389, 25, 143, 53, 80, 110, 21, 443, 9998, 7070 and 9999 Are open on 67.228.84.232, You can connect via RDP to their server just by using the IP crosscreekcenter.ws but it brings you to a login box. So yeah, We kind of snapped it up before you. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] Just for the forum's entertainment, Referred by: the person or internet site, the actual source of the referral (Teen 5000, Focus) Source of lead: how did they find the phone number Special Remarks: parent referral, flyer, code name or number Initial contact: the assigned person to work this lead Phone contact: first phone contact person Time Zone: time zone of client Lead ID: automatic Referred date: auto assigned General notes: enter any information about initial contact with client (i.e. called in the middle of the night, emergency situation etc. Date Packet mailed: automatically assigned, no entry necessary Lead classification: status of the lead (hot, cold, entered program etc.) Which program: this is not about the program you talked about, sent enrollment or such; this is the program you submitted the pre-admit to Date submitted: when you submitted the pre-admit Date contract mailed: when you mailed enrollment agreement to client Payment arrangements: how will they pay Referring search engine: no entry required Follow-up history: your contacts with the client, whatever it is (talked, sent, etc.) Next follow-up date: enter the next date you wish to contact this individual, this will save you lot of time, because you can pull these people up on a daily basis on the pre-admit search screen and work them Pre-admit misc. notes: contacts between the counselor and the program Chat-log: future enhancement to be implemented soon (when Jeni gets ready) Key-words: if there is nothing there, don’t worry; don’t write anything there Program Information: Results from program submission: was the child approved or not Date student arrived: THIS IS THE WAY YOU GET PAID; ENTER THIS DATE OR YOU WILL NOT GET CREDIT FOR THIS CHILD Special handling instruction: has to do only with the way the packet is mailed; if you inted to use standard mailing procedure, no entry is necessary; standard mailing is UPS Ground, only works for UPS Service type: overnight or ground or second day etc. Billing option: always accept default, which is prepaid Package type: PAK or letter or box etc Shipper to be used: select the right shipper (P.O. Boxes are USPS; not necessary to enter because gals at the shipping office will pull them anyway) Package weight: normally 2 lbs Ship outside US: have to fill out everything, name & complete shipping address Ship From: which return address you want to appear on the package; if you want your card to go in the package, fill this out Special handling info: whatever extra info the gals need (maybe two packets, include parent reference, DVD instead of VHS, include enrollment agreement, etc.) Phonecontact will do the mailing: if the lead comes in late in the day and you still want to get it out that day, or any other reason you want to mail it yourself Who will mail the packet: counselor’s name SAVE!!!

Dorkslayz, read your PM inbox.

We've been able to get into their intranet for a while. I don't think they've updated anything on the page in years.

Satellite image over Cross Creek, it's on the right of the marker I suppose [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek%20Satelite.PNG[/img] [b]INFORMATION DUMP[/b] [quote] Some detainees arrive tricked by their families but parents are advised to use a teen escort company. Level system Both programs consist of six levels. New detainees starts at level 1. They must show good behavior and attend a number of seminars in order to be voted up to the next level by their fellow detainees and therapists. Detainees start with no privileges. Upon arrival they are strip-searched and their clothes are removed. They are handed an uniform appropriate for their level. They are not allowed to wear shoelaces due to the flight risk. As it is stated on the homepage of the facility: All of the programs have secure campuses, which keep students in and strangers out. Some are more secure than others According to statements some of the privileges which the detainee has to work for is: Phone contact with the family (Monitored letters are allowed, incoming mail is scanned before given to the detainee) Visit from the family Talking with fellow detainees (Level two and above) unless it is a part of group therapy Right to shave or use hair products(Level two and above) Make-up or jewelry (Level 4 and above) In order to keep the detainees from running from the facility, a number of security precautions are mandatory: No use of bathroom with doors fully closed. No crossing of threshold without asking staff No recording of phone numbers or addresses beside the parents Check every morning to ensure that only one pair of bras, underwear and socks are on. No watching television or newspaper reading No looking out of the windows No speaking when staff orders "silence" No physical contact with other girls except as part of group therapy (hugs) Living conditions Inside south campus, which is a former elderly housing the detainees live in rooms with four or more girls. Each room share a bathroom. [/quote] This next paragraph is the worst [quote] A detainee graduates when the person reach level six or the person become 18. If a person does not reach level six before the 18 birthday, the detainee can choose an Exit Plan, which consists of being handed money (amounts between 10 and 100 dollar according to sources) and a bus ticket to Denver. The family of the detainee has no obligations to take the detainee back and in fact the parents are urged no to during seminars, they have to attend in order to visit their own child once, they have enrolled the child in the program. [/quote]

Detailed image. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Z3x9G.png[/img] [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr.T;30122007]Satellite image over Cross Creek, it's on the right of the marker I suppose [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12054510/Cross%20Creek%20Satelite.PNG[/img] [b]INFORMATION DUMP[/b] This next paragraph is the worst[/QUOTE] The rules you posted are just a small fraction of the rules there, but for the most part you've got it right. Exits plans were specified by the parents and could range from a flight back home with a welcome embrace to absolutely nothing. My exit plan was just that, I would be let out of the facility with nothing more than the clothes on my back.

[QUOTE=Chickens!;30119852]Getting a ticket to America, buying a gun, Going to Utah WWASP facility, remember me.[/QUOTE] Don't worry Chickens, I will build you a boat, put your avatar on it, set sail the boat and burn the boat. True viking style.