A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

[QUOTE=SeamanStains;30136022]That said if someone tries to kidnap you in the middle of the night you should probably be doing everything you can to stop them, up to and including killing them. Let the legal system sort it out later, the judge and jury would have to be unbelievable fucktards to give you anything close to a normal sentence.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Morte;30139369]These people go through regular training and certification in self defense and takedown maneuvers. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Self-defense or not, these aren't Navy SEALs we're talking about.

Shit I live in Utah and smoke but if I had to go there, all my efforts would be to get the fuck out. my parents are kinda fucked up like druggies but I doubt I'd be sent there.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;30080956]The fact that it's legal in the US is appalling.[/QUOTE] Yes because kidnapping is legal.... :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Sublata;30147546]the one for my state :frown: [url]http://www.horizonacademy.us/index.html[/url][/QUOTE] Funny story, I'm on the website. They bussed a bunch of us from Cross Creek to do a photo shoot for Horizon, and turns out, I'm still on there.

[QUOTE=Sublata;30147546]the one for my state :frown: [url]http://www.horizonacademy.us/index.html[/url][/QUOTE] After researching for a while, I've read that this "institution" is actually much, much better than any of the ones mentioned previously in the thread.

It's like my mind can't take this in. I'll spread the word as much as possible.

[QUOTE=The Kitteh;30149585][IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/51vvus.png[/IMG] What the hell... we need to do somthing, I don't think a 7 year old needs to be put to the ground. :([/QUOTE] "Placed* in prone restraint position" [I]*Forced and/or pushed down with violent force sufficient to cause damage to body and/or head[/I] Come now, "prone restraint position"? You've gotta be fucking kidding me. It's called lying down. Or being forced to lie down. They use euphemisms so it doesn't sound like the employees were pushing their luck and bullying small children and it went horribly wrong.

calling the teen escorts service kidnapping is like calling scientology a scam. everyone knows that's what it basically is but they're technically a governmental agency and so that is considered just part of the program.

I know I'm being an internet tough guy, but holy shit if two people came in the middle of the night to take me at all, no matter what their intention is I would try to beat the shit out of them.

[QUOTE=Xenoyia v2;30081666]The hell is "rebirth" Sticking a child into a vagina and trying to give birth to it again? :geno:[/QUOTE] That's a fetish.

And i thought Utah was fucked up when i read the Nat. Geo. article on the mormon community of ~300 people where the oldest living member is a direct blood relative to every person there. This seriously brings fucked up to another level

Lets all start the Facepunch Brainwashing Rally 2011.

[QUOTE=The Kitteh;30155027]Lets all start the Facepunch Brainwashing Rally 2011.[/QUOTE] We can call it "Facewash"

[QUOTE=joes33431;30149881]its true, John Locke said it himself, that if a governing body generates tyranny, then the people must act in order to prevent tyranny [/QUOTE] Americans don't act for shit these days. Just when your leaders order you.

[QUOTE=Falchion;30155399]Americans don't act for shit these days. Just when your leaders order you.[/QUOTE] Or when the booze runs out.

[QUOTE=FFStudios;30151879]After researching for a while, I've read that this "institution" is actually much, much better than any of the ones mentioned previously in the thread.[/QUOTE] Ha! It once was, maybe, but now Horizon literally occupies half of the Cross Creek building.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;30154419]That's a fetish.[/QUOTE] Don't you mean unbirthing, which is ten times as fucked up and falls within the purview of the vore fetish?

I was speaking in general Sublata.

Why do people like this live outside of prison? The fact that it's still operating makes me furious. Also, as a christian in the U.S, I can admit that most American christian's are complete failures. Usually the ones that tell me not to say the word "Hell", are the ones using drugs, constantly engaging in premarital sex, and are just violent people. So please, >>>whenever you see an American christian being a idiot, don't group all of us together.<<< kthxbye

This whole thing is terrible.

I don't know if this has been posted already, but their site was not very secure [img]http://i.imgur.com/mIrJh.png[/img]

I know not all of these institutions are like this, and this happens all around the world. But sometimes the thought of living in America scares me.

Two things: 1, as for not regarding America as a first world country, allow me to remind you that in the rest of the world, lest use Uganda's 'kill gays' thing as an example, treatment for gays is even worse. 2, There are some things that need to be purged with fire, cleansed in searing heat, removed to everyone else can have a better life. The people who run this camp and all their associates make the list. [editline]31st May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=gaboer;30081873][release]Jamar Griffiths 15 years old 10/18/94 Allen Residential Center Breathing was obstructed while being restrained...Traumatic asphyxia and brain death from lack of oxygen due to heart and lung failure Anthony ?Tony? Haynes 14 years old 7/1/2001 America's Buffalo Soldiers (Arizona) Dehydration and near drowning Travis Parker 13 years old Appalachian Wilderness Camp Restrained l l/2 hours. Denied request for asthma med Lorenzo Johnson 17 years old 6/27/94 Arizona Boys Ranch Drowned while trying to escape Nicholaus Contreras 16 years old 3/2/98 Arizona Boys Ranch Prolonged and serious medical neglect and openly abusive treatment per investigative summary Dawn Renay Perry 16 years old 4/10/93 Behavior Training Research Restraint Anthony Green 15 years old 5/21/91 Brookhaven Youth Ranch Restrained face down for 15 minutes Asphyxiation Corey Baines 16 years old 3/26/03 Catherine Freer Wilderness Expeditions Tree limb fell on tent while he was sleeping Erica Harvey 15 years old 5/27/2002 Catherine Freer Wilderness Program Hyperthermia with dehydration Kristen Chase 16 years old 6/27/90 Challenger Foundation Heatstroke Tristan Sovern 16 years old 4/19/98 Charter Behavioral Health Asphyxiation during restraint Earl Smith 9 years old 1/11/95 Children's Village Asphyxiation due to chest compression during restraint Casey Collier 17 years old 12/93 Cleo Wallace Center Restraint Asphyxia Jeffery Demetrius 17 years old 8/26/97 Crockett State School Strangulation while in restraint hold Charles Collins, Jr. 15 years old Crossroads for Youth Jimmy Kanda 16 years old ? 9/20/97 Crow's Nest Family Care Strangulation while in restraint hold 911 had to talk staff thru CPR Latasha Bush 15 years old 2/14/2002 Daystar Residential Treatment Center Complications of mechanical asphyxia Restraint Edith Campos 15 years old 2/4/98 Desert Hills Restraint [/release][/QUOTE] Every time read about some kid dying a little of me dies with them. A lot of me just died; almost in tears.

[QUOTE=gaboer;30081873][release] Corey Baines 16 years old 3/26/03 Catherine Freer Wilderness Expeditions Tree limb fell on tent while he was sleeping [/release][/QUOTE] Wait, what?

[QUOTE=johny mcmill;30167624]I know not all of these institutions are like this, and this happens all around the world. But sometimes the thought of living in America scares me.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I suppose living in the U.S. means I'm brave, or blissfully ignorant.

[QUOTE=SlayerFin;30081140]That's fucked up, I'd like to grab a shotgun and give a lesson to the staff.[/QUOTE] Internet tough guy alert. "I disagree with these people breaking laws so I'll commit a mass murder on the staff. Yeah, that'll show 'em :smug:"

[QUOTE=Mingebox;30168401]Wait, what?[/QUOTE] Oh boy, "Widow Makers", the creepy camping fanatics call them. Basically, sometimes a tree branch is REALLY loose, REALLY big, and REALLY high up. Eventually, one falls. Sometimes it falls on a tent and the unfortunate soon-to-be-greasy-meat-pancake.

[QUOTE=leet;30168543]Internet tough guy alert. "I disagree with these people breaking laws so I'll commit a mass murder on the staff. Yeah, that'll show 'em :smug:"[/QUOTE] yes. yes it would.

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;30081118]before anyone starts seriously bashing religion, please remember that the people behind this are mormon and not catholic. i know very nice catholic people who regularly help in homeless shelters — you just don't hear about them. nearly all christians aren't bad (at least, outside of the USA). the mormons, on the other hand... i have no reason to believe they can do any good to humanity [I]whatsoever[/I][/QUOTE] He's right, it's not religion thats the problem, thinking that is just as ignorant as the people you're talking about. Its extremism, which religion, while it doesn't promote it, opens a path that is easy to jump onto and follow. (even more so for the lesser educated folk) When this happens that family will generally stay within those bounds of extremism because these people teach and enforce it on their children. My grandmother told me the other day that she forbid me to read and of Richard Dawkin's works, or anything written by an atheist. She said that they were trying to brainwash me, I asked her "Well don't priests and the like do the same exact thing to an extent." To which she responded " Well yeah, but it's good for you, I would rather people be brainwashed to be good and follow god's word." That frankly scares the shit out of me. No, it's not religion, it's [b] uneducation [/b] . If everyone was smart enough to realize that the bible is not literal then the amount of nut jobs would drop significantly. The point of parenting is to teach kids [I] how [/I] to think, not [I] what [/I] to think. Perhaps getting rid of religion will fix it but we all know that won't happen. ( To clarify, religion does not equal belief.)