A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

I don't understand how I am not coming across clear. I love gay people. I am good friends with some. I just don't like the thought of gay sex and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Love is love no matter what. I have made this discussion WITH GAY FRIENDS before and they totally understood me and because of this we have become closer! I don't know why I am making people mad still. I am sorry I will just lurk then.

:geno: :geno: :geno: [url]http://www.teentransport.org/[/url] the kidnapping service website

[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30082227]I don't care, it's not funny. Murdering innocent people is never funny.[/QUOTE] You play videogames right. Than you have derived entertainment from shooting people (even simulated people) You can't take shit seriously all the time

What the fucking Christ. This shit has to be fake, nothing in modern North America could exist like this.

[QUOTE=TheBrokenHobo;30082238]You're implying that every religious person would do things like this if they were given power. That's quite the generalization there.[/QUOTE]The bad things that are associated with religion are usually when organized religion gets some power. It's not a generalization, I said it's hardly ever a good thing. More often than not religious people being in power has had a negative effect.

[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;30082255]I don't understand how I am not coming across clear. I love gay people. I am good friends with some. I just don't like the thought of gay sex and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Love is love no matter what. I have made this discussion WITH GAY FRIENDS before and they totally understood me and because of this we have became closer! I don't know why I am making people mad still. I am sorry I will just lurk then.[/QUOTE] Because people are misunderstanding you because it's emotionless text.

I got scared reading it midway :C

Holy shit, this is what you would expect reading in some kind of fucked up book about a corrupt future of humanity. Wow, just wow. If I was taken to such a a [i]camp[/i] I would do whatever I could to escape it.

Oh my god.. [SP]Krystal defied Tibbets (her adoptive father), so he laid her down in the hallway of the family’s Midvale, Utah, home. According to transcripts, Tibbets pushed his fist into the girl’s stomach for 15 minutes. During the session, Krystal vomited before she stopped breathing. She died the next day in a hospital. He was taught this "treatment" from the Family Attachment Center.[/SP] [SP]THAT WAS A 3 YEAR OLD[/SP] spoilered because its horrific

[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;30082255]I don't understand how I am not coming across clear. I love gay people. I am good friends with some. I just don't like the thought of gay sex and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Love is love no matter what. I have made this discussion WITH GAY FRIENDS before and they totally understood me and because of this we have become closer! I don't know why I am making people mad still. I am sorry I will just lurk then.[/QUOTE] the discussion ended stop

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30082262]You play videogames right. Than you have derived entertainment from shooting people (even simulated people) You can't take shit seriously all the time[/QUOTE] There's a difference between shooting pixels and actual people, and this is a topic I take very seriously because I've seen people brainwashed by their parents first hand.

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;30082286]Oh my god.. [SP]Krystal defied Tibbets (her adoptive father), so he laid her down in the hallway of the family’s Midvale, Utah, home. According to transcripts, Tibbets pushed his fist into the girl’s stomach for 15 minutes. During the session, Krystal vomited before she stopped breathing. She died the next day in a hospital. He was taught this "treatment" from the Family Attachment Center.[/SP] THAT WAS A 3 YEAR OLD spoilered because its horrific[/QUOTE] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/img/reaction_motherofgod.gif[/img] why [B]WHY[/B]

[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30082300]There's a difference between shooting pixels and actual people, and this is a topic I take very seriously because I've seen people brainwashed by their parents first hand.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between posting a picture of a bomb and actually blowing stuff up.

Did any of these people resist restraint? I know if two guys kicked down my door at night and flat out told me they had come to take me away I would reach for the nearest knife and start stabbing the shit out of them.

[QUOTE=rivershark;30082334]Did any of these people resist restraint? I know if two guys kicked down my door at night and flat out told me they had come to take me away I would reach for the nearest knife and start stabbing the shit out of them.[/QUOTE] These kids are usually 16 to 3 years of age I doubt they would do anything but panic

[QUOTE=rivershark;30082334]Did any of these people resist restraint? I know if two guys kicked down my door at night and flat out told me they had come to take me away I would reach for the nearest knife and start stabbing the shit out of them.[/QUOTE] they got you by surprise plus they're probably big no chance of escape I believe :smith:

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30082330]There's a difference between posting a picture of a bomb and actually blowing stuff up.[/QUOTE] Touche. I wonder what would happen if you actively resisted the entire time. They can't legally restrain you there if you try to leave. It is essentially a prison camp. Prison camp with the goal of "reeducating" people. I wasn't aware it was 1950s Soviet Union still.

[QUOTE=rivershark;30082334]Did any of these people resist restraint? I know if two guys kicked down my door at night and flat out told me they had come to take me away I would reach for the nearest knife and start stabbing the shit out of them.[/QUOTE] I haven't read any testimonial where they resisted, but 1) if they had been told what they were going to endure they certainly would havee 2) it would be completely legal for them to resist

[QUOTE=rivershark;30082334]Did any of these people resist restraint? I know if two guys kicked down my door at night and flat out told me they had come to take me away I would reach for the nearest knife and start stabbing the shit out of them.[/QUOTE] Not many teenage girls keep combat knives on their nightstands.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;30082247]You're a bad person.[/QUOTE] You're welcome, that actually made me feel good about myself. Try sticks and stones next time. Regardless of petty insults, the people who harmed the children like that, in the name of reshaping them, really do deserve bad things.

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;30082286]Oh my god.. [SP]Krystal defied Tibbets (her adoptive father), so he laid her down in the hallway of the family’s Midvale, Utah, home. According to transcripts, Tibbets pushed his fist into the girl’s stomach for 15 minutes. During the session, Krystal vomited before she stopped breathing. She died the next day in a hospital. He was taught this "treatment" from the Family Attachment Center.[/SP] [SP]THAT WAS A 3 YEAR OLD[/SP] spoilered because its horrific[/QUOTE] Even people in the middle ages are better than this man. They would not think of harming a child, and in such a uncivilised way. (Yeah they burned people but you don't punch a 3 year old till it stops vomiting and breathing.)

So what would happen if they attempted to abduct some kid and he/she happened to seriously injure/kill of the the people trying to kidnap them?

[QUOTE=ironman17;30082375]You're welcome, that actually made me feel good about myself. Try sticks and stones next time. Regardless of petty insults, the people who harmed the children like that, in the name of reshaping them, really do deserve bad things.[/QUOTE]How does it make you any better than them by torturing (extremely) misguided people instead of rehabilitating them or any other much more ethical treatment? Torturing people because you view them in a certain way is what caused these people to do this awful shit in the first place. We're not in the middle ages anymore.

I'd jump border the second those people came in my room if this would have ever happened to me. (AKA after learning about it) That this is in any way possible to happen is shocking and dramatic.

[QUOTE=Nautsabes;30082388]So what would happen if they attempted to abduct some kid and he/she happened to seriously injure/kill of the the people trying to kidnap them?[/QUOTE] Seeing as the people at most of the facilities get off clean or with manslaughter I would say nothing would happen whatsoever; someone came into their room and tried to abduct them they fought back and protected their life.

The really terrible thing is, if they would have resisted with lethal force IE used a knife to defend themselves, the corporation that ran the kidnapping service or the family of the kidnappers probably would have gotten them thrown in jail. I really, really hate my country sometimes with the amount of stuff people get away with on technicalities.

[QUOTE=Nautsabes;30082388]So what would happen if they attempted to abduct some kid and he/she happened to seriously injure/kill of the the people trying to kidnap them?[/QUOTE] I think he/she would probably win in court The US legal system is heavily biased towards the "well-being" of children (especially girls), so self-defense COULD win

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30082098]Internet tuff guy. Also hypocrite.[/QUOTE] ahahahahahuehueh. Can't argue with what I just said, can you? Also care to explain how I'm a hypocrite?

I gonna tell my Russians to throw a TZAR BOMB at that camp. Of course,it's crazy,but my friend and me have a lot to do,just to eliminate everything evil. And that service is bankrupted,all the people that used the service are assasinated,and that leaves the world free from another fuckup. I am not giving out the name of my friend.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;30082407]How does it make you any better than them by torturing (extremely) misguided people instead of rehabilitating them or any other much more ethical treatment?.[/QUOTE] These kinds of people simply can't be rehabilitated.