A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

Modern-day concentration camps. This is how a genocide begins.

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30081233]What makes buddism not a religion. Because if it's a religion it is by definition a direct contradiction of fact in favor of a bunch of bullshit.[/QUOTE] wow are you serious that's not what religion is [i]at all.[/i]

[QUOTE=codemaster85;30081009]it is illegal to hold someone against their will. that is kidnapping.[/QUOTE] Not if you're underage. Camps like these will also have the parents sign over "extended custody" so they can become the legal guardians. If you're on the verge of becoming an adult, a parent can submit a form to have you declared mentally unfit to relinquish said guardianship. Camps like these love educating parents on how to do this so they can keep kids above the age of 18 against their will. I know all of this because of the horror story IAMA's that have been on Reddit regarding the issue. There was a different IAMA about a camp that would regularly beat children and force them into "fighting" rings with eachother until one of the kids blacked out or had a serious medical emergency from being hit so hard, etc.

Didn't they make fun of one of those places on South Park?

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;30082475]These kinds of people simply can't be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] So? that doesn't mean you should go out of your fucking way to inflict suffering on them. you're a sadistic cunt if you think you should.

To the people thinking about resisting. It is like being literally surrounded by people who are your enemy. imagine being in your room at night knowing outside your door people are plotting to have you sent to a camp to 'take the gay out of you' you wouldn't know when the bogey men were coming to take you away in the night. And when you scream your parents wouldn't care. It's for your own good after all. You have literally no friends, no saftey.

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;30082475]These kinds of people simply can't be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] Hm? How so? People who were members of a religion have become atheists or switched to a different religion and stopped believing in the things they believed in. People stop believing in things all the time. Racists have stopped being racist. Members of the KKK have left the KKK. Members of of a radical Islam sect have left their sect. People are not hardwired. What stopping us from rehabilitating these people?

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;30082498]Didn't they make fun of one of those places on South Park?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvhXvaDhO8[/media]

[quote]two and a half years.[/quote] Holy. Fuck.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;30082487]wow are you serious that's not what religion is [i]at all.[/i][/QUOTE] Oh no? What is it than to you? A series of 'rules' like 'thou shalt not be this or that' Perhaps it's an explanation for things you don't / can't understand. Maybe it's just your parents were therefore you are. Either way that's just like your opinion man.

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30082565]Oh no? What is it than to you? A series of 'rules' like 'thou shalt not be this or that' Perhaps it's an explanation for things you don't / can't understand. Maybe it's just your parents were therefore you are. Either way that's just like your opinion man.[/QUOTE]"Religion is a cultural system that creates powerful and long-lasting meaning by establishing symbols that relate humanity to beliefs and values"

[QUOTE=animephreak135;30082491]Not if you're underage. Camps like these will also have the parents sign over "extended custody" so they can become the legal guardians. If you're on the verge of becoming an adult, a parent can submit a form to have you declared mentally unfit to relinquish said guardianship. Camps like these love educating parents on how to do this so they can keep kids above the age of 18 against their will. I know all of this because of the horror story IAMA's that have been on Reddit regarding the issue. There was a different IAMA about a camp that would regularly beat children and force them into "fighting" rings with eachother until one of the kids blacked out or had a serious medical emergency from being hit so hard, etc.[/QUOTE] What kind of parent does that? You shouldn't have to declare your kid insane because he is gay and has different views than you. That is disgusting.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;30082498]Didn't they make fun of one of those places on South Park?[/QUOTE] Yeah! I remember that now, was actually quite some time ago. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartman_Sucks[/url]

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;30082525] What stopping us from rehabilitating these people?[/QUOTE] The people that need to be rehabilitated.

This is really terrible. I don't get how places like these can exist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it scientifically proven that homosexuality is something that a person is born with, not something that can be rehabilitated in any way?

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;30082577]"Religion is a cultural system that creates powerful and long-lasting meaning by establishing symbols that relate humanity to beliefs and values"[/QUOTE] So we're anthropomorphising concepts and than claiming they are real people / entities sounds cool and by cool I mean fucking crazy.

[quote]Shortly after I left the program I was raped. I shared what happened with my mother, who then told me, like Cross Creek did, that it was my fault, I asked for it, and that I should have known it would happen. [/quote] Words cannot describe the amount of :frog:

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;30082619]The people that refuse to be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] Gonna show me where they've refused? You've seemed to jump straight to the torturing on no basis other than you seem to be a bit sadistic.

This is one of the rare cases where I wish I didn't know something. I should stop reading sad news :(

[QUOTE=blacksam;30082608]What kind of parent does that? You shouldn't have to declare your kid insane because he is gay and has different views than you. That is disgusting.[/QUOTE] It's scary as shit, too. These institutions are always for profit, and they cater to angry/bitter parents who are either insane or incapable of handling their own children. If I knew someone who was about to be abducted into a program like that, I'd get him out of the country. [quote=Starkilla]I was escorted to SUWS of the carolinas from the New England area. At the airport they told me if I tried to pull anything funny (like yell "kidnap!") that we would just have to drive the whole way. When we got breakfast before taking off, one of the escorts interrupted me as I tried to order hot coffee, saying I couldn't be trusted with it. One of my biggest regrets is not throwing the iced coffee I got instead in their faces. The program I went to was a sort of intermediary on the way to the type of lock-down boarding school Xandir went to. 90% of people I met there graduated to such a school. I am somewhat ashamed that I played ball with the program and at times rolled over like their lap dog, but it is a horrible place to have your interaction with people and freedom so cripplingly regulated (only outside interaction was one weekly letter to parents). I ended up convincing my parents through the letters to change their minds and let me come home instead of the boarding school, much to the annoyance of my head counselor. Which really fucking pissed me off, because the only reason I got motivated in the first place was the alluring possibility of getting out on good behavior. Well I was fucking good, everyone said so, including my head counselor to my face, and what do you know, when the program is wrapping up for me he's giving strong recommendations to my parents to ship me off to the next thinly veiled mental institution/prison. some people I met there were there for hard drug use or selling. one was a kid who had never done any drugs or drank, but defected from the cult he was born into and wound up at the program under the impression that it was a windsurfing camp. one kid lived dozens of miles from his closest neighbor in the middle of nowhere, and stole a cell phone from his dad. i think he was like 13. one girl was there because, "she had low self-esteem". one kid had aspergers, and was damn annoying, but had never broken the law either. some people dug their heels in and refused to participate. i respect those ones a lot. the rest were somewhere between convincing their group that they gladly ate all of the program's bullshit up, and actually eating it, without there always being a clear line between the two. there was no sort of emergency button for the kids; if you screamed, the only people who could hear you were the people keeping you there and away from people who might hear you. I told my folks in my pleading letter to let me come home that I wouldn't harbor any ill will if they let me, that I would just be grateful for a second chance and would try my best. I did try my best when I got back home, but I was forced into a position where I never had the benefit of the doubt and lost my ability to stick up for myself. It also became clear eventually that I did in fact still resent my parents for hiring some assholes to kidnap me and ship me off, but the threat of getting sent away again was constantly looming. so i had to nurture absolutely disingenuous unhealthy one-sided relationships with my parents where they had taken the shit-feeding spoon straight from the program and any responsibility for blame on their part was impossible and i was responsible for all blame in all situations as an inevitability. [b]my mom kicked me out of her house 3 days after I got back home for leaving a window open.[/b] the situations these kids are put in are totally absolutely 100% fucked. if nothing else, it is psychological abuse. you can feign playing the game, and they know you're faking it, but if they keep you there for long enough you will crack. seriously like the ending of 1984. When I got to the place I was amazed that it was legal, and then very scared. I couldn't believe no one talks about these places. When I got out, I wished I could save everyone from having to go, but I was set to getting my life back on track and I couldn't figure out how to try and bring awareness to the issue, and kind of just forgot about it. call it survivor's guilt.[/quote] The bolded portion will give you an idea of what these parents are like.

I fucking hate humanity.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;30082639]Gonna show me where they've refused? You've seemed to jump straight to the torturing on no basis other than you seem to be a bit sadistic.[/QUOTE] Refused was the wrong word, I meant 'need'.

All of those places should eat shit and die,no disscusion. EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCKING FAGS THAT THINK DOING THAT IS RELIGIOUS! Those places will be nuked eventually,believe me.

[quote]Shortly after I left the program I was raped. I shared what happened with my mother, who then told me, like Cross Creek did, that it was my fault, I asked for it, and that I should have known it would happen.[/quote] "How are my parents? What parents?"

I feel so sick after reading this entierly. And I hoped to be happy this evening. :frown:

[QUOTE=Utiltrk;30082711]All of those places should eat shit and die,no disscusion. EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCKING FAGS THAT THINK DOING THAT IS RELIGIOUS! Those places will be nuked eventually,believe me.[/QUOTE] Not how nukes work. Also no such divine justice. They'll probably outs a couple of hundred sickos and the rest will merely claim to be 'employees following orders' and with no compelling evidence be released. than the camps will be shut down and the workers will go find other jobs.

Wow.....thats just heartless. I'm waiting for the day one of the staff gets murdered. Its only a matter of time before someone stands up and does something about it. >_> Seriously though, cruelty at its finest.

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;30082565]Oh no? What is it than to you? A series of 'rules' like 'thou shalt not be this or that' Perhaps it's an explanation for things you don't / can't understand. Maybe it's just your parents were therefore you are. Either way that's just like your opinion man.[/QUOTE] rofl I'm not religious in the slightest.

I can't be the only one who wants Motherfucker to stop posting, right?....

[QUOTE=Robbobin;30082765]rofl I'm not religious in the slightest.[/QUOTE] Oh no my assumption was incorrect You still havn't explained what religion 'is' you just told me it 'isn't' that. [editline]27th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Beezleboss;30082779]I can't be the only one who wants Motherfucker to stop posting, right?....[/QUOTE] I don't like what you're saying. Stop posting.