If Donald Trump becomes president, will we this mark a new era in history? - General

[QUOTE=archangel125;29481864]I think not. He's using shit tactics to gain idiots as voters, we all know what Republican social policies are like, etc. If the United States wants to drift closer to a fascist Oligarchy, then by all means, vote for him.[/QUOTE] I disagree with most Republican social policies. Their horrible stances on abortion and gay rights leave a lot to be desired. But they actually know how to manage an economy (unlike liberals) and they don't want to ban guns.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29481872]Oh man, please keep going. You've not a clue what socialism is to any extent do you?[/QUOTE] I think he's using the word socialist ironically

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481865]He'll probably win too. A lot of people hate Obama for his socialist policies, and are opposed to socialist healthcare.[/QUOTE] Plus Obama is a turrist.

In case you haven't noticed, when people in foreign countries (including those in developed nations) need a major surgery, they fly to the United States to get it done. Since our healthcare is the best.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481882]I disagree with most Republican social policies. Their horrible stances on abortion and gay rights leave a lot to be desired. But they actually know how to manage an economy (unlike liberals) and they don't want to ban guns.[/QUOTE] Wait. So giving corporations shittons of money and tax breaks and hoping they'll pass the savings on to the consumer, rather than giving the consumer more spending power (as liberals do) is a good economic policy? Bullshit.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;29481810]Donald Trump is much smarter than you if you can't see that he's saying all this stupid shit to gain support from the radical right wing nutjobs in America. I personally believe he would make a terrible president, but he knows what he is doing. It's all a publicity stunt. Do you actually think he believes any of that nonsense he is spewing?[/QUOTE] So are you for presidents that are manipulative liars?

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481882]I disagree with most Republican social policies. Their horrible stances on abortion and gay rights leave a lot to be desired. But they actually know how to manage an economy (unlike liberals) and they don't want to ban guns.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that democrats want to ban guns because unlike Republicans they believe in the existence of the constitution.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481897]In case you haven't noticed, when people in foreign countries (including those in developed nations) need a major surgery, they fly to the United States to get it done. Since our healthcare is the best.[/QUOTE] No. They don't. Only the richest people do that because in the US, having money means you get better treatment are are considered a person then I'm a canadian, I've had 3 major surgeries and 5 minor. I've never needed to go to the US for anything.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481897]In case you haven't noticed, when people in foreign countries (including those in developed nations) need a major surgery, they fly to the United States to get it done. Since our healthcare is the best.[/QUOTE] US healthcare is bullshit. I grew up in Saudi Arabia, India and the UAE. There are damn good hospitals and doctors there. Stop believing Fox News, they have to lie fifty times to tell one truth.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481882]I disagree with most Republican social policies. Their horrible stances on abortion and gay rights leave a lot to be desired. But they actually know how to manage an economy (unlike liberals) and they don't want to ban guns.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if the idea that liberals want to ban guns is a fallacy but it seems like one as it's a half shitty idea. Anyway, Republicans definitely don't know how to manage an economy, they open it up which allows for more abuses that lead to financial crises, not a good thing.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481897]In case you haven't noticed, when people in foreign countries (including those in developed nations) need a major surgery, they fly to the United States to get it done. Since our healthcare is the best.[/QUOTE] Listen, just get out. This is a forum of Liberals. You will not do well here.

[QUOTE=archangel125;29481917]US healthcare is bullshit. I grew up in Saudi Arabia, India and the UAE. There are damn good hospitals and doctors there. Stop believing Fox News, they have to lie fifty times to tell one truth.[/QUOTE] Their ads tell more truth then they do.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29481905]So are you for presidents that are manipulative liars?[/QUOTE] They're all manipulative liars. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Constitution, and Green.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481882]I disagree with most Republican social policies. Their horrible stances on abortion and gay rights leave a lot to be desired. But they actually know how to manage an economy (unlike liberals) and they don't want to ban guns.[/QUOTE] Liberals don't want to ban guns, that's a myth and a delusion. Liberal is also not a word that insults anyone but you apparently. And they know how to manage an economy? 40 years of reagonomics would say, no, they do not.

[QUOTE=Nikota;29481907]I wouldn't say that democrats want to ban guns because unlike Republicans they believe in the existence of the constitution.[/QUOTE] They do, they've been pushing for banning firearms for many years now.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481930]They're all manipulative liars. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Constitution, and Green.[/QUOTE] The constitution is a manipulative liar :v:?

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481930]They're all manipulative liars. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Constitution, and Green.[/QUOTE] And the biggest liars and cheats are the Republicans.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481930]They're all manipulative liars. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Constitution, and Green.[/QUOTE] So you just want a manipulative corporation in power? Okay, I can see that. yes, politicians are liars, you've informed us of something new and interesting. [editline]27th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481943]They do, they've been pushing for banning firearms for many years now.[/QUOTE] Nope.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481943]They do, they've been pushing for banning firearms for many years now.[/QUOTE] I'm a liberal, and I fuckin' love guns. You'll find a very large amount of liberals feel the same.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481943]They do, they've been pushing for banning firearms for many years now.[/QUOTE] Regulations do not equal banning. It really is rather easy to get a gun in a majority of states.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29481951]Nope.[/QUOTE] The Democrats want to be just like the "Conservative" (not really conservative) Party of England, which banned guns.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481966]The Democrats want to be just like the "Conservative" (not really conservative) Party of England, which banned guns.[/QUOTE] Uh, nope. If they wanted to do that they'd be stupider than your posts have made you look. Frankly, banning guns in the US is impossible and every politican worth a dime knows this. You can't remove 260 million guns from a country. Liberals are not for gun bans. They're for regulation. Conservatives seem to get the term regulation and ban confused. Banning guns in the UK is a lot easier because there's less of them. There's less supply, less demand, less circulating. It's not the same in the US or Canada.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29481915]Only the richest people do that[/QUOTE] If I need an important surgery done, and I have the money to afford it, should I not get it?

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481993]If I need an important surgery done, and I have the money to afford it, should I not get it?[/QUOTE] What the fuck does that even mean?

[QUOTE=Nikota;29481944]The constitution is a manipulative liar :v:?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_%28United_States%29[/url]

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481993]If I need an important surgery done, and I have the money to afford it, should I not get it?[/QUOTE] Did I say you shouldn't? No, what I infact said was that you're wrong about people leaving their countries to go to the US for treatment because it's not true. Yes, SOME do. But not all want to or need to. You said it as a flat statement. However, you act as if you have the best healthcare system in the world, you don't, you're 34 last time I checked. Not so great.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29482009]Did I say you shouldn't? No, what I infact said was that you're wrong about people leaving their countries to go to the US for treatment because it's not true. Yes, SOME do. But not all want to or need to. You said it as a flat statement. However, you act as if you have the best healthcare system in the world, you don't, you're 34 last time I checked. Not so great.[/QUOTE] Many people do that in other countries. Plus there isn't a gigantic waiting list. You do realize that you can't really "rank" health care right? Especially not in a capitalist country. It all depends on who you survey. You can ask 500 homeless people who need brain surgery about how good their treatment is, and they'll say bad. You can ask 500 middle-upper class people, and they'll say it was great.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29481966]The Democrats want to be just like the "Conservative" (not really conservative) Party of England, which banned guns.[/QUOTE] Liberals want to regulate firearms, conservatives claim they're trying to ban them Liberals want to create universal health care, conservatives claim they're turning us into a socialist country. Liberals want to regulate corporations, conservatives claim they're trying to kill the free market. It seems to me that conservatives have a long track record of making mountains out of mole hills.

A new era of history of idiocy. One FAR surpassing Bush.

[QUOTE=Tyrannosaur;29482031]You do realize that you can't really "rank" health care right? Especially not in a capitalist country. It all depends on who you survey. You can ask 500 homeless people who need brain surgery about how good their treatment is, and they'll say bad. You can ask 500 middle-upper class people, and they'll say it was great.[/QUOTE] Yeah and thats probably because we deny treatment to people without health insurance if its something major.