Also, have some more footage of the beings known as chavs speaking their natural dialect
[video=youtube;MEnK145M9-A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEnK145M9-A[/video]
[QUOTE=Chaoss86;39924187]
Now outside of London is generally ok is you stick to the South, the north is generally a lot more violent and you are likely to get a smack in the mouth (our word for a punch) if you ask for directions or look lost (Don't ask me why I have no idea lol). [B]Pretty much anywhere north of Sheffield is to be avoided really, Bristol (My hometown and where I was bought up) I have one word for.... avoid, Bristol is a very violent city and is unlike many places in England, you will get mugged and it is common for people to be mugged and beaten in broad daylight with people walking past. If you must go, then get taxi's everywhere and spend as little time as possible there.[/B][/QUOTE]
This couldn't be further from the truth. You will find good and bad places in every city and its stupid to say 'avoid the North' or 'avoid X city because its full of crime'. I'm from Newcastle and you will find tons of friendly people, and its a generally nice city. Yes, it has shithole estates but everywhere does too. The North East has some beautiful countryside, as well as the North West (Lake District) and further up to Scotland.
I have been to almost every city in the England (Most of them multiple times) and had zero problems / seen nothing bad happening, I did live right in the center of Newcastle for a year and I'm currently living in Aston (Birmingham)
[B]15,000 AUD = £10,000; If you arent spending extravagantly then this could probably last 6 months - 1 year travelling, a cheapish one bedroom flat here will probably set you back around £3000-5000/year for rent and bills alone.[/B]
[QUOTE=Chaoss86;39924187]
Now outside of London is generally ok is you stick to the South, the north is generally a lot more violent and you are likely to get a smack in the mouth (our word for a punch) if you ask for directions or look lost (Don't ask me why I have no idea lol). Pretty much anywhere north of Sheffield is to be avoided really, Bristol (My hometown and where I was bought up) I have one word for.... avoid, Bristol is a very violent city and is unlike many places in England, you will get mugged and it is common for people to be mugged and beaten in broad daylight with people walking past. If you must go, then get taxi's everywhere and spend as little time as possible there.
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Have you ever actually left London?
I live in Sheffield and just spent a week in Surrey for work and the only difference was the accent
It will be cold and there will be more foreign people then English people!
I genuinely don't see the need in living in London. There are much nicer places to live at much better prices.
[QUOTE=Chubbs;39937124]Also, have some more footage of the beings known as chavs speaking their natural dialect
[video=youtube;MEnK145M9-A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEnK145M9-A[/video][/QUOTE]
"tell 'em joe"
"yeah man"
Gets me every time.
Glasgow is obviously your best bet.
If you move up north there's less foreigners if that's your thing. You're also more likely to run into friendly drunks on the street who'll have a conversation with you and chat on about how much they hate the Government.
[QUOTE=Cushie;39937386]This couldn't be further from the truth. You will find good and bad places in every city and its stupid to say 'avoid the North' or 'avoid X city because its full of crime'. I'm from Newcastle and you will find tons of friendly people, and its a generally nice city. Yes, it has shithole estates but everywhere does too. The North East has some beautiful countryside, as well as the North West (Lake District) and further up to Scotland.
I have been to almost every city in the England (Most of them multiple times) and had zero problems / seen nothing bad happening, I did live right in the center of Newcastle for a year and I'm currently living in Aston (Birmingham)
[B]15,000 AUD = £10,000; If you arent spending extravagantly then this could probably last 6 months - 1 year travelling, a cheapish one bedroom flat here will probably set you back around £3000-5000/year for rent and bills alone.[/B][/QUOTE]
I plan to start looking for a job after about 2 months, I have no plans to spend it all lightly but then again I won't be blowing it either, I'll just be having fun I guess. I don't want to move to another country and live a slow day to day life which is why I chose a big city, I'm doing this for the experience, not to live comfortably. Having said that I'm not going to blow all my cash and end up on the street, I'm not that stupid.
[QUOTE=Averice;39941865]I plan to start looking for a job after about 2 months, I have no plans to spend it all lightly but then again I won't be blowing it either, I'll just be having fun I guess. I don't want to move to another country and live a slow day to day life which is why I chose a big city, I'm doing this for the experience, not to live comfortably. Having said that I'm not going to blow all my cash and end up on the street, I'm not that stupid.[/QUOTE]
Do you have a decent CV / much work experience? You will find it quite difficult to find a part time job, especially in the middle of a city where there are probably 50 people applying for one spot.
My girlfriend had 1 years work experience and loads of volunteer work and it took her a good few months to get an interview after handing out loads of CVs.
[QUOTE=Cushie;39943520]Do you have a decent CV / much work experience? You will find it quite difficult to find a part time job, especially in the middle of a city where there are probably 50 people applying for one spot.
My girlfriend had 1 years work experience and loads of volunteer work and it took her a good few months to get an interview after handing out loads of CVs.[/QUOTE]
I have 8 years exp as a chef, as well as Head chef positions at Italian and French restaurants and Sous Chef at a few hotels, I'm going to start applying at the 2 month mark as I'm expecting it to take a while to land a job, I suppose it helps having the Chef trade to go into but I'm not limiting myself to chef positions alone, I'll apply for a range of different jobs.
[QUOTE=Chaoss86;39924187]OK in London you will be fine, it is very easy to meet people and very friendly especially if you go to more traditional pubs and bars. A personal reccomendation is a club called Elektrowerks on a Saturday behind Angel tube station, you can bring your own alcohol and it goes from 10pm until 10am (usually later though if it's busy). you WILL meet friends in there and there are 3 floors and 6 rooms of awesome music, The bouncers are really friendly and are now like family to me there :)
In terms of London itself avoid anywhere south of the river as that is where a majority of the muggings and bad stuff happen, most places north of the river bar east London are fairly safe (although even east London is safer than the south). The internet here in London is pretty bad, you can expect to get around 7 - 14mb avarage download speed and around 0.3 to 1meg upload. If you win what we call the post code lottery (meaning if you live in one of around 6 areas) you may live in a cabled area and will be able to get 100mb down 10mb up with Virgin Media, otherwise it's ADSL for you. The best current ISP to go with would be PlusNet, in the UK you will need to get a phone with your broadband (it's a requirement sadly) and PlusNet also do phone packages. Avoid TalkTalk, BSkyB (Sky) and BT if you can. Taxi's are very expensive so it is not uncommon for a stranger to ask you where you are going if you are waiting for a taxi, and if they are going in the same direction to ask if you want to share the taxi fair. Don't be weirded out this is considered normal behaver.
Your fastest mode of transport in London is going to be the Tube, it is generally advisable to live within walking distance of a Tube station (It's the blue circle with a red horizontal line through it, very easy to spot). I'm not sure what the conversion rate of Ausy dollars is but I'm guessing that will be around 8 grand, that should get you through 2 months comfortably, or 3 (or even 4) months if you budget. Finding a job over here is definitely no easy feat so be prepared to spend every day in the week looking for several months. Night work is a lot easier to find than day work so you may want to look into that.
Making friends in England pretty much always happens in nightclubs, bars and pubs and will most likely happen while you have a few drinks down you, it is a very big part of our culture and it is 'normal' to "have a pint" during a work lunch break so keep that in mind. I have met some of my best friends who are now like brothers while out drinking.
As for general safety the usual rules apply, keep your wallet close and preferably in a front pocket, be extra careful at busy tube stations. Zip up any pockets with zips on them and just generally use common sense and you'll be fine. I've lived here 2 years and not had any problems. Homophobia, discrimination and racism is frowned upon, so if you are uncomfortable seeing to guys kissing or transsexuals then you will want to rethink coming to England, if however you are gay or generally not bothered by it then you will not have any problems.
Now outside of London is generally ok is you stick to the South, the north is generally a lot more violent and you are likely to get a smack in the mouth (our word for a punch) if you ask for directions or look lost (Don't ask me why I have no idea lol). Pretty much anywhere north of Sheffield is to be avoided really, Bristol (My hometown and where I was bought up) I have one word for.... avoid, Bristol is a very violent city and is unlike many places in England, you will get mugged and it is common for people to be mugged and beaten in broad daylight with people walking past. If you must go, then get taxi's everywhere and spend as little time as possible there.
Something I feel is very important for all people moving here should know is that customer service is very very bad here, nothing ever really works the way it should so be prepared for disappointments, unexpected delays, and even unexpected charges. A good example of this is when I had the internet getting installed, twice the engineer did not show up without any explanation and I still got charges. This is considered normal here sadly and can be very frustrating if you are not used to the experiences. On the flip side of this you will very often get discounts in shops or bus fairs if the drivers don't have the right change and I've even had several free bus journeys or items from a shop.[/QUOTE]
my advice would be to ignore everything in this post
Anyone who says the north side of the country is terrible really needs to get out of London more... The Lake district is one of the nicest parts of Britain, York is one of the nicest and cleanest cities, Liverpool/Manchester are some of the best places for the night life etc
[QUOTE=Chaoss86;39924187]OK in London you will be fine, it is very easy to meet people and very friendly especially if you go to more traditional pubs and bars. A personal reccomendation is a club called Elektrowerks on a Saturday behind Angel tube station, you can bring your own alcohol and it goes from 10pm until 10am (usually later though if it's busy). you WILL meet friends in there and there are 3 floors and 6 rooms of awesome music, The bouncers are really friendly and are now like family to me there :)
In terms of London itself avoid anywhere south of the river as that is where a majority of the muggings and bad stuff happen, most places north of the river bar east London are fairly safe (although even east London is safer than the south). The internet here in London is pretty bad, you can expect to get around 7 - 14mb avarage download speed and around 0.3 to 1meg upload. If you win what we call the post code lottery (meaning if you live in one of around 6 areas) you may live in a cabled area and will be able to get 100mb down 10mb up with Virgin Media, otherwise it's ADSL for you. The best current ISP to go with would be PlusNet, in the UK you will need to get a phone with your broadband (it's a requirement sadly) and PlusNet also do phone packages. Avoid TalkTalk, BSkyB (Sky) and BT if you can. Taxi's are very expensive so it is not uncommon for a stranger to ask you where you are going if you are waiting for a taxi, and if they are going in the same direction to ask if you want to share the taxi fair. Don't be weirded out this is considered normal behaver.
Your fastest mode of transport in London is going to be the Tube, it is generally advisable to live within walking distance of a Tube station (It's the blue circle with a red horizontal line through it, very easy to spot). I'm not sure what the conversion rate of Ausy dollars is but I'm guessing that will be around 8 grand, that should get you through 2 months comfortably, or 3 (or even 4) months if you budget. Finding a job over here is definitely no easy feat so be prepared to spend every day in the week looking for several months. Night work is a lot easier to find than day work so you may want to look into that.
Making friends in England pretty much always happens in nightclubs, bars and pubs and will most likely happen while you have a few drinks down you, it is a very big part of our culture and it is 'normal' to "have a pint" during a work lunch break so keep that in mind. I have met some of my best friends who are now like brothers while out drinking.
As for general safety the usual rules apply, keep your wallet close and preferably in a front pocket, be extra careful at busy tube stations. Zip up any pockets with zips on them and just generally use common sense and you'll be fine. I've lived here 2 years and not had any problems. Homophobia, discrimination and racism is frowned upon, so if you are uncomfortable seeing to guys kissing or transsexuals then you will want to rethink coming to England, if however you are gay or generally not bothered by it then you will not have any problems.
Now outside of London is generally ok is you stick to the South, the north is generally a lot more violent and you are likely to get a smack in the mouth (our word for a punch) if you ask for directions or look lost (Don't ask me why I have no idea lol). Pretty much anywhere north of Sheffield is to be avoided really, Bristol (My hometown and where I was bought up) I have one word for.... avoid, Bristol is a very violent city and is unlike many places in England, you will get mugged and it is common for people to be mugged and beaten in broad daylight with people walking past. If you must go, then get taxi's everywhere and spend as little time as possible there.
Something I feel is very important for all people moving here should know is that customer service is very very bad here, nothing ever really works the way it should so be prepared for disappointments, unexpected delays, and even unexpected charges. A good example of this is when I had the internet getting installed, twice the engineer did not show up without any explanation and I still got charges. This is considered normal here sadly and can be very frustrating if you are not used to the experiences. On the flip side of this you will very often get discounts in shops or bus fairs if the drivers don't have the right change and I've even had several free bus journeys or items from a shop.[/QUOTE]
You give southerners a bad name, ignore this post.
London is good but really expensive, I'd stick to any cities north of London, south of that will be expensive and only good for short visits.
[B]Edit:[/B]
I'm a moron who fucks up exchange rates and misreads posts
why the UK?
OP I found out something really useful that'll save you a lot of money
Apparently there's a place in the united states called NEW england, you can go there instead! its more up to date
I wouldn't travel to London by yourself. Just saying.
The night life can be pretty dangerous and although you maybe good at making friends it doesn't mean people will be so polite with you. A lot of binge drinking and people that can't handle it.
I've been in situation where people have out right switched and picked fights and you will see a few if not be among them.
But other than that it is a decent tourist attraction. But for going on long length holidays the are better countries. Plus the isn't all that much to see in London.
I live in Birmingham and I managed to do the tour, visit attractions, ride the London eye and get back to my city within 24 hours. Pretty much why I didn't go back.
If you plan to go out of London the are some great countrysides to go and relax and they don't attract the riff raft.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39950554]OP I found out something really useful that'll save you a lot of money
Apparently there's a place in the united states called NEW england, you can go there instead! its more up to date[/QUOTE]
Sounds good man, except.. no.
[QUOTE=d_cover;39951678]I wouldn't travel to London by yourself. Just saying.
The night life can be pretty dangerous and although you maybe good at making friends it doesn't mean people will be so polite with you. A lot of binge drinking and people that can't handle it.
I've been in situation where people have out right switched and picked fights and you will see a few if not be among them.
But other than that it is a decent tourist attraction. But for going on long length holidays the are better countries. Plus the isn't all that much to see in London.
I live in Birmingham and I managed to do the tour, visit attractions, ride the London eye and get back to my city within 24 hours. Pretty much why I didn't go back.
If you plan to go out of London the are some great countrysides to go and relax and they don't attract the riff raft.[/QUOTE]
There's drunk fights everywhere not just London, there's also people who can't handle their alcohol everywhere as well.
[QUOTE=Jagur;39946685]why the UK?[/QUOTE]
For fun, why does anybody go anywhere remotely different?
[QUOTE=RAG Frag;39946358]You give southerners a bad name, ignore this post.
London is good but really expensive, with the amount of money you have I wouldn't recommend it.
I'd stick to any cities north of London, south of that will be expensive and only good for short visits[/QUOTE]
If I can't survive on £10,000 for 2-3 months, expensive city or not then there's something severely wrong with my budget.
The minimum wage is not far off £10k after taxes, you'll survive. You should expect about £500 a month for a flat to rent.
[QUOTE=Averice;39956121]Sounds good man, except.. no.
There's drunk fights everywhere not just London, there's also people who can't handle their alcohol everywhere as well.
For fun, why does anybody go anywhere remotely different?
If I can't survive on £10,000 for 2-3 months, expensive city or not then there's something severely wrong with my budget.[/QUOTE]
London isn't as dangerous as people say, there are some really bad areas where the majority of crime happens but they're mainly residential areas so you shouldnt be going to them as a tourist. £10k will be enough to survive and also have a good time if you moderate yourself and find a decent place to rent. Unlike the post under me, if you're expecting to get a place in london that isn't in a complete shit hole you'll be expected to pay double that i can't really see anything else draining you from 10k.
come to newcastle, become a miner v:v:v
Don't go to Hull or Middlesborough
Visit Edinburgh.
come to amurica.
Some to Scotland.
Here's the average working class Australian accent, i do know people that sound like this (skip to 00:39)
[video=youtube;-iXk8QiXXBU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iXk8QiXXBU[/video]
Come to Brighton, Its a beautiful place. and when your bored come visit me in Eastbourne <3
Glasgow's actually a pretty good place to live in imo, plus if you're loaded you could move to one of the suburbs like Bearsden and have a mugging-free life (probably).
I basically live in Liverpool and I went to Glasgow for a day and everyone hated me :(
[QUOTE=Averice;39956121]
If I can't survive on £10,000 for 2-3 months, expensive city or not then there's something severely wrong with my budget.[/QUOTE]
Oh oops sorry must have misread your post, you'll be fine then.
Other than that public transport in London is fairly easy to get around,you might just want a map of the underground with you.
Summer is coming up but be prepared for a much colder climate.
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