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you know what defense i love from the anti-medical marijuana population?
i love the one where they tell you it's bad for you, but when you ask them why is it bad for you they can't give you a solid reason. all they can say is "it's bad for you."
bcuz da governmentz tells you its bad for yuo
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;28721535]to good for this place, that's for sure.
might be the fact that i'm one of the oldest people here (age wise, i couldn't give a fuck how long i've been a member), and i'm actually growing up.
I've made it glaringly obvious though, so don't act all surprised when i say what i just said.
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in fact i wouldn't even call it too good for this place. i'm probably just to old for this place.
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the best part about this post is anyone responding in a overly negative way to it only furthers my point[/QUOTE]
last time i checked, pussy lightweight =/= mature
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I'm 15 the oldst purson heer guis
I'm bored and a little hopped up on amphs and caffeine, so I'm gonna break down some of this shit bothering me in this thread
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;28705210]the worst case scenario if someone over doses on acid is permanent catatonic psychosis, a fate which is indescribably worse than death.
i've been in catatonic psychosis before, so don't you fucking dare even think of telling me i'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
You have schizophrenia. Your experiences with psychedelics and drugs in general are obviously going to be different than those of someone without schizophrenia or other pre-existing mental disorders.
I find LSD and shrooms to help vastly with my OCD and anxiety, while marijuana seems to make them much worse. I have always had exceptionally positive experiences on traditional psychedelics
[QUOTE=Barblunder;28705402]if you ever experience extreme psychosis or catanonia due to psychedelic use it's because you're predisposed to conditions like that and any jarring psychological experience can send you into crises.[/QUOTE]
This
[QUOTE=Barblunder;28705402]I don't understand the obnoxious anti-intellectual aggressiveness in almost all of your posts. it's so fucking distasteful.[/QUOTE]
And this, for sure. Though I think he's trolling at least part of the time because he knows he'll get this kind of reaction from us. Neo, you silly goose :v:
[QUOTE=Callius;28706395]They're probably also outlawed due to the fact they can make people act completely unrealistically, I mean I've personally heard stories from people who've done AMT and the like and run around naked until they were arrested by the police. On a more important note is what if people try to drive on them or walk around in public and get hit by a car etc.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I've never tripped with anyone who acted "unreasonably" (as you described it above).
That arises from dangerous and irresponsible use, and overuse, etc
[QUOTE=Kanshi;28716662]NO DRUG IS SAFE
so don't use that argument all drugs are fucking dangerous, we need to push for drug information not legalization[/QUOTE]
Safe in what sense of the word? Why is it impossible for a drug to be safe?
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;28721535]to good for this place, that's for sure.
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Then why don't you GTFO?
This place is a community, we don't need anyone who thinks they're TOO GOOD for us.
There are safe amounts of radiation. Does that mean radiation is safe? No. It does mean that at certain levels the negative effects of radiation are negligible. How safe a drug is correlates to the risks, how likely they are to occur, and frequency. Addictive drugs usually affect frequency, which makes them less safe.
[QUOTE=Pepin;28771509]There are safe amounts of radiation. Does that mean radiation is safe? No. It does mean that at certain levels the negative effects of radiation are negligible. How safe a drug is correlates to the risks, how likely they are to occur, and frequency. Addictive drugs usually affect frequency, which makes them less safe.[/QUOTE]
The point is THC is in no way nocive to the human body.
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while goddamned OXYGEN is.
[QUOTE=Pepin;28771509]There are safe amounts of radiation. Does that mean radiation is safe? No. It does mean that at certain levels the negative effects of radiation are negligible. How safe a drug is correlates to the risks, how likely they are to occur, and frequency. Addictive drugs usually affect frequency, which makes them less safe.[/QUOTE]
Water:
Risks: You can drown in it, even in very small amounts. It's also poisonous in large amounts. Without it, you will die. It's also colorless and odorless.
Likelihood: You could drink too much water on accident, or not enough when exercising. You can drown while swimming, or even in the bathtub. Hell, you could slip in the shower and drown.
Frequency: You need to drink it everyday, and it's even in the air around you. You pretty much don't see a day without water in it, which can make you want to drink it. It is addictive in the sense that you have to drink it nearly everyday to survive. The withdrawal's terrible and ends in your death.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;28771007]I find LSD and shrooms to help vastly with my OCD and anxiety, while marijuana seems to make them much worse. I have always had exceptionally positive experiences on traditional psychedelics[/QUOTE]
completely the same way. I smoke weed a lot and honestly it's probably more of a harmful force in my life than a helpful one, but psychedelics (as you said, traditional) have improved my life and made me a happier person. There's not really a doubt there. I don't do them very often but whenever I do it's an overridingly positive experience that gives me a feeling of control and peace over my life, and I'll be noticeably more outgoing and optimistic afterwards.
[QUOTE=Barblunder;28779222]completely the same way. I smoke weed a lot and honestly it's probably more of a harmful force in my life than a helpful one, but psychedelics (as you said, traditional) have improved my life and made me a happier person. There's not really a doubt there. I don't do them very often but whenever I do it's an overridingly positive experience that gives me a feeling of control and peace over my life, and I'll be noticeably more outgoing and optimistic afterwards.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I'm a lazy shit and weed doesn't help that but psychedelics have really helped me improve my life and keep moving forward.
dont get me wrong, i love my acid and i love my shrooms, but i don't think they should be "legalized"
those kinds of drugs are a lot different than weed or alcohol. I mean, what's the point of legalizing or even heavily restricting them?
i can defintely see shrooms (psilocybin) being heavily restricted in very low doses for anxiety, but i live in florida, and via a supreme court ruling, mushrooms are technically 'legal' so sucks to be the rest of you. but u can still be killed for going in and picking them yourself (tresspassing or prowling)
acid should DEFINITELY not be restricted or legalized, but i doubt anybody would get caught with that unless you have sheets on sheets.
You can't get caught carrying acid. But making it is another fucking story where every fucking chem is on government watch list, aka illegal to posses unless having a proper reason (if intend is to produce acid you can go to jail for L00000000NG time).
Legalize all drugs etc...
[QUOTE=Anubis678;28771007]I disagree. I've never tripped with anyone who acted "unreasonably" (as you described it above).
That arises from dangerous and irresponsible use, and overuse, etc[/QUOTE]
Actually it's just idiots using drugs as an excuse to act out on their idiocy. Your friend is doing (a lot) of [i]x[/i] drug, and is having a hard time coping? Consider this: maybe your friend is a huge idiot, and an asshole for blaming drugs and thus hurting responsible drugs users. (not directed at you Anubis, just the little anecdote part in the post you responded to)
[QUOTE=Lenni;28783458]Actually it's just idiots using drugs as an excuse to act out on their idiocy. Your friend is doing (a lot) of [i]x[/i] drug, and is having a hard time coping? Consider this: maybe your friend is a huge idiot, and an asshole for blaming drugs and thus hurting responsible drugs users. (not directed at you Anubis, just the little anecdote part in the post you responded to)[/QUOTE]
Agreed. It bothers me when people immediately blame the drug, when there are millions of people who have managed to safely use the drug. All it takes is one idiot to draw attention to the fact that he can't control himself under the influence, and now the drug itself is demonized.
[QUOTE=brianosaur;28782566]dont get me wrong, i love my acid and i love my shrooms, but i don't think they should be "legalized"
those kinds of drugs are a lot different than weed or alcohol. I mean, what's the point of legalizing or even heavily restricting them?
i can defintely see shrooms (psilocybin) being heavily restricted in very low doses for anxiety, but i live in florida, and via a supreme court ruling, mushrooms are technically 'legal' so sucks to be the rest of you. but u can still be killed for going in and picking them yourself (tresspassing or prowling)
acid should DEFINITELY not be restricted or legalized, but i doubt anybody would get caught with that unless you have sheets on sheets.[/QUOTE]
They are very different from weed and alcohol. Way to state the obvious.
Why make them illegal though?
[QUOTE=brianosaur;28782566]dont get me wrong, i love my acid and i love my shrooms, but i don't think they should be "legalized" [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=brianosaur;28782566]I mean, what's the point of legalizing or even heavily restricting them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=brianosaur;28782566]i can defintely see shrooms (psilocybin) being heavily restricted in very low doses for anxiety, but i live in florida, and via a supreme court ruling, mushrooms are technically 'legal' so sucks to be the rest of you. but u can still be killed for going in and picking them yourself (tresspassing or prowling)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=brianosaur;28782566]acid should DEFINITELY not be restricted or legalized[/QUOTE]
I don't know what you're trying to say here...
I think he's saying they should stay fully illegal.
[QUOTE=Treybuchet;28784683]I think he's saying they should stay fully illegal.[/QUOTE]
He is clearly stating that...
OK i have no idea! i was just saying what was going on in my brain about the idea of the movement, but i guess it came out kinda retarded. please forgive me. ive been up now and im high so this is what i think now (i wrote that when i woke up):
I dont believe people should get in trouble for possessing drugs. The war on drugs is obviously a waste of time (and time is money). I think the idea about making a process to obtain acid would be pretty nice and profitable by the government.
shrooms should just be legal, but if you really want to get shot by some redneck for tresspassing is another law broken and a lesson learned.
I think there should be an information book that goes along with the drug that informs you on the effects, what it does, etc. so people don't get stupid with it.
thats my 2 cents
1000 posts sweet
I don't understand how people can hurt themselves/others on drugs like that. Any true stories of people running into traffic or any stupid shit like that on drugs HAS to be an example of somebody doing a ridiculous dose. As out of control I've felt w/ regards to my emotions on psychedelics, I'm always in control of my actions and I have a pretty strong sense of caution.
[QUOTE=Barblunder;28797665]I don't understand how people can hurt themselves/others on drugs like that. Any true stories of people running into traffic or any stupid shit like that on drugs HAS to be an example of somebody doing a ridiculous dose. As out of control I've felt w/ regards to my emotions on psychedelics, I'm always in control of my actions and I have a pretty strong sense of caution.[/QUOTE]
you'd be suprised how quickly people can spiral downwards and do insane shit when they're on drugs, scared and alone. my friend woke up on the train after dropping acid, completely oblivious to the fact he dropped acid. he thought the world got taken over by aliens and proceeded to do some fucking stupid things like running on the subway tracks, trying to find weapons to kill the "aliens" (mta employees who were telling him to get off the tracks) and break into a car to hide from the aliens. and i love the fact that he didn't get in trouble for any of these things.
this brings me to another theory, being on acid makes you incredibly lucky. the past few times me or my friends have tripped unlikely but awesome things keep happening. and this happened on multiple days. we always catch trains as soon as we get to the station, overhearing awesome conversations, getting into movie theaters for free because of fucked up elevators, finding money, meeting old friends on the street, the list goes on. has anyone else ever experienced acid luck?
though i guess my acid luck theory can be completely negated by my first paragraph about people doing dumb stuff on acid. i guess you can't really categorize lsd into any one specific category. it's a new adventure each time, you never know what will happen. except it will blow your fucking mind.
Set and Setting, man.
That's all you need to think about when you consider psychadelics.
The Set of your mind, both with mental conditions and emotional.
and
The Setting of where you are, and who you are with.
[QUOTE=theXinferno;28798063]you'd be suprised how quickly people can spiral downwards and do insane shit when they're on drugs, scared and alone. my friend woke up on the train after dropping acid, completely oblivious to the fact he dropped acid. he thought the world got taken over by aliens and proceeded to do some fucking stupid things like running on the subway tracks, trying to find weapons to kill the "aliens" (mta employees who were telling him to get off the tracks) and break into a car to hide from the aliens. and i love the fact that he didn't get in trouble for any of these things.
this brings me to another theory, being on acid makes you incredibly lucky. the past few times me or my friends have tripped unlikely but awesome things keep happening. and this happened on multiple days. we always catch trains as soon as we get to the station, overhearing awesome conversations, getting into movie theaters for free because of fucked up elevators, finding money, meeting old friends on the street, the list goes on. has anyone else ever experienced acid luck?
though i guess my acid luck theory can be completely negated by my first paragraph about people doing dumb stuff on acid. i guess you can't really categorize lsd into any one specific category. it's a new adventure each time, you never know what will happen. except it will blow your fucking mind.[/QUOTE]
I was playing cards with friends today, not very interested in cards. But I won every time but once, I don' think I am that good to beat other players that are pioneers (I am occasional player).
Pretty lucky :)
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