[QUOTE=Wolverunder;36517361]No they aren't. At all.
Read a book or something.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]God in Islam, Allāh, is a all-powerful and all-knowing God, creator, sustainer, ordainer, and judge of the universe. Islam advocates that the God in Islam is strictly singular (tawhid) unique (wahid) and inherently One (ahad), all-merciful and omnipotent. Allāh exists without place and the Qur'an states that "No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. God is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things" (Qur'an 6:103) [B]Allāh is the only God and the same God worshiped by members of Christianity and Judaism. [/B][/QUOTE]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism#Abrahamic_religions[/URL]
So much for religion guiding people to peace...
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;36517361]No they aren't. At all.
Read a book or something.[/QUOTE]
Oh the irony, you do realize 'Allah' in English just means 'God', it isn't a title or name it's just god you simpleton. Arguably it is used to refer to the 99 names of God, but that term can be deceptive because by "names" it's just stuff like "the Most Graceful", "the Most Merciful" etc. Muslims by virtue believe that god cannot be known in any extensible fashion except from his teaching passed in the Quran.
It's also why they generally mock Christians, go to any Christian -> Muslim conversion and I bet you 9 times out of 10 they'll be raving about how it's impossible that God would have a son or if you believe the trinity I guess God is both his son and himself, although in the Quran Jesus is also a prophet so they'd likely dispute his nature as God's son aswell because of that. Also it's impossible under their ideas that God would conceivably have an image or any form known to mankind.
This idea also proliferates through the entire religion, for instance if you've noticed they also hate it when you depict their prophet, because they believe him to be unknown (at least except to god) and the idea of personifying him belittles him as a sacred figure.
[editline]27th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;36518163]So much for religion guiding people to peace...[/QUOTE]
No religion is peaceful, the people might be but that's only in spite of their religious teachings.
God must be laughing at us pretty hard.
I didn't see any stoning...
This video is great. A bunch of bigots going to a Muslim gathering and telling them Allah isn't true, then the Muslims throw random stuff at them. Even though its violent and unneeded in most situations like this, these guys actually deserved it.
Angry people with belief A meet angry people with belief B,
consequently...
Watched the video. While they don't deserve the harsh reactions to it, it's also something that they should expect. It's really ridiculous to expect no one to be pissed and respect your rights after you've disrespected their beliefs. You are exercising your right, but that doesn't mean that no one can't be offended by it. What they did was probably on par with urinating on the american flag on veteran's day. I really doubt that they were dumb enough not to notice the context of their protest.
The Christians had every right to preach their bigoted nonsense and the Muslims didn't do anything to help their case of being a "peaceful religion" by stoning them.
Haha
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Overreacted much?
the christians deserved it
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;36523991]the christians deserved it[/QUOTE]
No one deserves to be violently assaulted for the stupid shit they say.
They went into a crowd of young people to antagonise people and start a mob. If the worst they got from that is a few cuts, then they are really fucking lucky.
One guy gets hit with a rock and suddenly it's a stoning.
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I feel so bad for the police to have to put up with these pricks.
2 groups of crazy religious people and they are surprised there's violence?
[QUOTE=Bobie;36515947]if you don't understand the difference between organized religion and faith you're a fucking idiot. i'm not saying people should not believe in god, but a specified institution which controls faith only creates problems (i.e the vatican saying you should not use contraception, people in the third world who have been indoctrinated and not educated on the subject actually believe it)[/QUOTE]
Well then you should of, I don't know, say "but this is simply justification that [I]organized[/I] religion has no place in modern society" instead of using a broad term like "religion".
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[quote]Everywhere in the world that you find muslims! You find violence &* chaos! You people are no longer welcome in our country.[/quote]
[quote]if we don't get these demon possessed pigs out of our country this will come to a town near you...then death* will follow...GET THEM OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!!!!THEY CAN'T LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY THEY ARE ANIMALS.....[/quote]
[quote]MUSLIMS =* NAZIS.[/quote]
[quote]I think the cops in dearbornistan are muzzies.* And by waging jihad against the infidels, they are looked upon with favor by the muzz community.[/quote]
[quote]Muzzies are scum.* Scum of the earth.[/quote]
[quote]American Christians being stoned in their own country. Amazing. Not being a gentle and pacifist minded* Christian, I would have thrown back grenades. [/quote]
[quote]Muslims are filled with* hatred and responsible for terrorism. Read their Koran you fools! They do not belong in the West. As you see here.[/quote]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;36524993]Well then you should of, I don't know, say "but this is simply justification that [I]organized[/I] religion has no place in modern society" instead of using a broad term like "religion".[/QUOTE]
as opposed to disorganized religion right, cause i was totally referring to jedi-ism and satanism
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The funny thing is that those exact people would be saying the exact same thing if the opposite happened.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;36523359]The Christians had every right to preach their bigoted nonsense and the Muslims didn't do anything to help their case of being a "peaceful religion" by stoning them.[/QUOTE]
Yes they have the right, but it's ridiculous why would you go to such a place to rally, you know the only thing you're going to get in return is angry people. Of course the people there are intolerant idiots, they should never get violent about someone having different opinions, but really what did the Christians thing would occur. Also what did these idiots seek to gain by doing this, the people they were rallying against didn't care what they had to say and they knew that coming in. I have no respect for these fucktards.
[editline]28th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;36526473]The funny thing is that those exact people would be saying the exact same thing if the opposite happened.[/QUOTE]
Such is stupidity.
Rofl, religion in the 21 century. The best indicator that the quality of education should be improved across the world.
fuck i hate losers like this, turn up to intentionally cause a ruckus then cry to the cops. why don't they just have a big scrap and be done with it
Chances are if this is taken to court the judges will rule in their favor. While what the group is saying is vile and hateful it in no way allows the crowd to react violently like that.
Hmm. Only conclusion: this is sad. The video, granted i don't know what was on the signs so it could have been extremely offensive or extremely passive. I have been extremely outraged before when people ridicule my faith and i have become violent in several of those scenarios. Doesn't mean what i did was okay, its just a natural reaction and part of being human. So i do understand the Muslims aggression towards the Christians, but to go to the extent they did is a little low. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad or anything, but this was disappointing to see. And secondly, i dont think i have seen another believer in Christianity on this website. All these atheist, it kinda hurts to see so many people bashing on something that they have the wrong idea on. Certainly some people proclaim to be Christian and only hurt the Christian cause further than the catholic church already has (the two are not the same). I myself once being atheist know why some of you may be set in your ways. Im sure we once shared some of the same opinions and beliefs. But it comes down to one thing: God is real, Jesus Christ is real, he is the son of God, God loves us, and that doesnt depend on your beliefs, your faiths, your sex, who you love, or what you have done. God will always love you.
god and allah are the same fucking thing, when are christian extremists and ALL muslim hating christians going to realise it. Although the same can be said to muslim extremists.
and the American Muslisms don't seem like extremists, just a buncha pissed off people operating through a mob mentality, and that old man that starts telling everyone to jump the christians and telling those who won't, to go home reaaaaaaly fuckin irritates me, he's just an example of shit stirring that goes on when a large group of people meet another group trying to piss people off.
Of course we're basically looking at the same thing, in Islamic countries, illiterate people are fed lies and bullshit about allah then they have to take extraordinary measures such as sometimes strapping a bomb to their chest.
The only difference between these people and extreme christians is that the christians are only slightly more educated, and I use the term slightly in the lightest sense, which in most cases stops them from blowing up people but still doesn't stop them from forming cults and doing stupid shit like in the video or organising mass suicides etc.
"you aint nothing biotch"
[QUOTE=Jesus Rulz;36531191]Hmm. Only conclusion: this is sad. The video, granted i don't know what was on the signs so it could have been extremely offensive or extremely passive. I have been extremely outraged before when people ridicule my faith and i have become violent in several of those scenarios. Doesn't mean what i did was okay,[B] its just a natural reaction and part of being human.[/B] So i do understand the Muslims aggression towards the Christians, but to go to the extent they did is a little low. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad or anything, but this was disappointing to see. And secondly, i dont think i have seen another believer in Christianity on this website. All these atheist, it kinda hurts to see so many people bashing on something that they have the wrong idea on. Certainly some people proclaim to be Christian and only hurt the Christian cause further than the catholic church already has (the two are not the same). I myself once being atheist know why some of you may be set in your ways. Im sure we once shared some of the same opinions and beliefs. But it comes down to one thing: God is real, Jesus Christ is real, he is the son of God, God loves us, and that doesnt depend on your beliefs, your faiths, your sex, who you love, or what you have done. God will always love you.[/QUOTE]
Unless the frontal cortex of a person's brain is unable to function properly for whatever reason (It is the part of the brain that is our conscious, it's what allows you to tell yourself "That's wrong" whenever you have an urge for violence or other wrong deeds) then they really have no excuse for reacting violently to people who say something you don't like. If a man physically attacks a person simply for saying hateful or obnoxious things, the best the attacker will get in court is a lessened sentence under a Provocation defense. He still gets punished for reacting the way he did.
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