[QUOTE=geogzm;45580201]from what i'm hearing spice/synthetic weed is something to avoid[/QUOTE]
Deffinitely don't do that shit, it is addicting. I've also tried it, nothing special.
from my understanding:
safe tier:
real weed
lsd
shrooms
safety off tier:
amphetamines
adderall
shit like that
ecstasy/mdma
MD
DMT
shootdown zone:
cocaine
heroin
meth
synth weed/any other undocumented research chemicals
triznits
[QUOTE=geogzm;45598956]from my understanding:
triznits[/QUOTE]
Those fucking triznits man
i didn't know what exactly i was smoking last night so i just labelled it 'OG triznit powder'
[editline]5th August 2014[/editline]
triznit is my go-to word for 'i don't know what the fuck this is'
be OG, smoke Only Ganj
i had somebody to buy lsd off but i can't remember who i knew them through
egad
Probably an odd thing to post here, but programs like NA or AA really can help if you're at the point in your life where you don't really know how else to quit.
Bit to cult-y for my tastes, but it did help me make through a year of being clean. Did some good for me, you know?
Lemee tell you all a story....
Had a buddy who introduced me to smoking weed when i was still a youngbull. As we grew up and I became more and more of a vet smoker he began to move on to pills and shit. First it started with bullshit like ADD meds that he got off some of his friends. Whenever I'd sleep over his house he'd smoke me up like crazy then rant and rave about how these pills were the shit and I should take them with him. A few times he almost had me but I always stayed away.
Before I know it he starts talking to these older kids. (We were only 14-15 at the time) Now these people he started hanging out with were reeeaaaaal scummy. Like, shoot up dope infront of 14-year olds scummy. Personally, I never liked the kids but whenever me and him hung out with them it was a guaranteed smoke-up, so I put up with it even though I knew these weren't the people to be with. Anyway, my buddy winds up having some personal issues, doesn't go to school, etc. He had diabetes and all sorts of mental conditions in his family so he was going through some rough shit. Basically his parents made him go to some place for troubled teens. Nothing too serious, probably just filled with moody teenagers.
So throughout my first year of high-school I was could only tell my buddy how great it was on the few days he was allowed back. Now this is around when I start to feel guilty. One these few days he had back, I noticed one of the dopeheads he had hung out with earlier in the year would always be there. At first I was mad, then he bought us vodka, allowing me, my buddy and pals to have a great time, so I dismissed him.
One of the days back, this kid starts trying to sell my friend serious drugs. He was too smart to give them the drugs right then and there, but he insisted on selling my friend Coke and Heroin once he got out. [i]I just stood there and fucking let him.[/i] For a kid much older than me, I still think I coulda knocked 'em out with one good slug. The heroin in his blood had betrayed him, making him look even more sickened and starved than he'd been before he started doing dope.
Eventually he left, and the night continued on normally. Before I walked home that night I fist-bumped my best friend. I knew the next time I'd see him he'd be a free man and things would go back to normal again. I walked home that night smiling, not worrying about the events that occurred earlier.
When I woke up he next morning, I got a text from one of my friends who slept over his house that night. Groggily, I looked at my phone unprepared for the text I was about to receive.
That night, my best-friend had overdosed on a bag of heroin the dopehead "forgot" at the house. He was a week away from freedom and normality. He was only 15 years old.
TL;DR my friend started with smoking weed then thought pills were okay, then thought opiates were okay then tried heroin and overdosed
[editline]7th August 2014[/editline]
geez havent written a book like that in a while
me and all my friends made a pact: beat the shit out of the dopehead who supplied him the next time we see him
[QUOTE=TheStateTrooper;45622924]Lemee tell you all a story....
Had a buddy who introduced me to smoking weed when i was still a youngbull. As we grew up and I became more and more of a vet smoker he began to move on to pills and shit. First it started with bullshit like ADD meds that he got off some of his friends. Whenever I'd sleep over his house he'd smoke me up like crazy then rant and rave about how these pills were the shit and I should take them with him. A few times he almost had me but I always stayed away.
Before I know it he starts talking to these older kids. (We were only 14-15 at the time) Now these people he started hanging out with were reeeaaaaal scummy. Like, shoot up dope infront of 14-year olds scummy. Personally, I never liked the kids but whenever me and him hung out with them it was a guaranteed smoke-up, so I put up with it even though I knew these weren't the people to be with. Anyway, my buddy winds up having some personal issues, doesn't go to school, etc. He had diabetes and all sorts of mental conditions in his family so he was going through some rough shit. Basically his parents made him go to some place for troubled teens. Nothing too serious, probably just filled with moody teenagers.
So throughout my first year of high-school I was could only tell my buddy how great it was on the few days he was allowed back. Now this is around when I start to feel guilty. One these few days he had back, I noticed one of the dopeheads he had hung out with earlier in the year would always be there. At first I was mad, then he bought us vodka, allowing me, my buddy and pals to have a great time, so I dismissed him.
One of the days back, this kid starts trying to sell my friend serious drugs. He was too smart to give them the drugs right then and there, but he insisted on selling my friend Coke and Heroin once he got out. [I]I just stood there and fucking let him.[/I] For a kid much older than me, I still think I coulda knocked 'em out with one good slug. The heroin in his blood had betrayed him, making him look even more sickened and starved than he'd been before he started doing dope.
Eventually he left, and the night continued on normally. Before I walked home that night I fist-bumped my best friend. I knew the next time I'd see him he'd be a free man and things would go back to normal again. I walked home that night smiling, not worrying about the events that occurred earlier.
When I woke up he next morning, I got a text from one of my friends who slept over his house that night. Groggily, I looked at my phone unprepared for the text I was about to receive.
That night, my best-friend had overdosed on a bag of heroin the dopehead "forgot" at the house. He was a week away from freedom and normality. He was only 15 years old.
TL;DR my friend started with smoking weed then thought pills were okay, then thought opiates were okay then tried heroin and overdosed
[editline]7th August 2014[/editline]
geez havent written a book like that in a while
me and all my friends made a pact: beat the shit out of the dopehead who supplied him the next time we see him[/QUOTE]
A bummer for your friend, but not really your fault at all, nor is it the dopeheads fault, so accosting him isn't going to bring your friend back. Your friend made a stupid choice and paid for it, yea we never want to blame the victim, but i highly doubt that other dude slid a straw up his nose and made him snort H, your friend should have been safer using drugs, not to mention he's too young anyways. Either way the whole situation seems to be a shame, and I'm sorry for your loss.
MDMA is like reverse addictive. The more you take it the less you wanna take more lol
[QUOTE=Elitetech;45648496]MDMA is like reverse addictive. The more you take it the less you wanna take more lol[/QUOTE]
that's true, but after a month or two you kinda forget how horrible you've been feeling and then you start wanting to do it again.
[sp]maybe thats just me[/sp]
That's another thing you reminded me to say...
If people are taught to use any drug responsibly, (weed, booze), it because addictive to them or worse, a gateway drug to others (crack, meth).
[editline]11th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE]Coca leaf has certainly been an object of controversy for centuries, and has been alternately praised and condemned... Coca tea is good for you, but cocaine can kill you. - Chris Kilham, Fox News Health - See more at: [url]http://www.medicinehunter.com/coca#sthash.UrV5zl3P.dpuf[/url][/QUOTE]
I guess coca leaves maybe okay???
[QUOTE=mushroompizza;45658196]
I guess coca leaves maybe okay???[/QUOTE]
[quote=CpnCrunch21 from old post] So when you use a drug the way you consume it also is a huge factor in addiction. When the drug enters the blood stream you can imagine for the most part, that there is a section or pocket of blood that has a higher concentration of the drug than the rest of the body. Basically how quickly it enters your system determines how high the concentration. If you were to say inject heroin you would have a small pocket of blood that is very concentrated with heroin. Whereas if you scraped off some resin from the poppy plant and ate it, it would be diluted into the whole body and give a much less significant effect. (Yes I know heroin is processed and is added a few chemical groups that increase its travel through the blood brain barrier, but just think about the concentration for now).
Cocaine is the example my professor used so I'll stick with it, cocoa leaves used to increase stamina and reduce appetite show to have almost no addiction symptoms, tinctures infused with the leaves or cocaine are also fairly non-addictive, one step further you have snorting which increases the concentrate of the drug thus activating the reward center in a more intense fashion (all at once is better than getting diluted in blood), next you have smoking it which is very addictive (crack), and obviously injection being the highest tier of addiction of them all. The more concentrated it is in the blood by the time it hits the brain, the harder the hit, the stronger the high, the stronger the high the more addicting it will be as it will do more damage than slowly trickling in.
Edited:
Also the reason H is better than morphine is also because it hits the brain faster. Heroin has a couple chemical groups that allow it to bypass the blood brain barrier much easier than morphine, thus hitting it harder. Same with oxy, except oxy is better because its chemically engineered to bypass the liver, stomach, and such as to give the patient pain relief quickly. (But people don't know this, pop their pills for too long, get addicted, and either turn to the cheaper H or live off of fake scripts.) [/quote]
Where the shrooms at bro?
[QUOTE=mushroompizza;45575865]MDMA causes severe depression after use, so I cannot advise to do so. Plus, what do you mean by "personal development"?[/QUOTE]
Given proper preparation (i.e. supplements and vitamins) it's possible to almost completely avoid those effects, as well as the general physical hangover. Tried it the last couple of times I rolled and had something I might even call an afterglow the next day. I was lethargic from expending so much energy of course, but I didn't feel bad.
I space out my rolls by a few months generally.
[editline]12th August 2014[/editline]
That's for the next day, I can't speak certainly about the longer term differences.
Don't do drugs. Specially cigs.
[QUOTE=EmilioGB;45667352]Don't do drugs. Specially cigs.[/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate and give a reason why? And, why do you place cigarettes above all other drugs?
[QUOTE=fox '09;45671206]Can you elaborate and give a reason why? And, why do you place cigarettes above all other drugs?[/QUOTE]
cigs suck.
I still smoke em, despite having tried to quit multiple times
and I managed to quit meth...
they're not even that enjoyable, generally taste pretty crap, they create extra artificial stress through cravings and yet your mind turns back to them as a way of relieving stress.
not to mention the amount of money you throw away in favour of them.
There's genuinely no real good reason to smoke them, i'd prefer to not, but I still do.. because the cravings are weird, i'll tell myself no, but I just don't listen.. like, i'll literally find myself just doing it for god knows what reason, and by the time I realize i'm justifying my continued use, i'm already in the middle of another one
it's a vicious cycle of why the fuck am I doing this, might as well have another cigarette
on my better days, when I manage to not think about them too much, i'll have as few as 2, i haven't gone a full day without in a very long time. I don't even know why I started anymore, but i'm sure i'll get off them soon
Stay the fuck away from BZP (Benzylpiperazine). It's the stuff they used to sell (or maybe still do, don't know) as "Herbal Extasy" or "Legal E" and similar names in the UK. It's basically a former anti depression drug that was taken off the market long ago due to its heavy side effects.
And that's what you really get. It's not a particularly dangerous drug.
But it has about the effect of taking a little MDMA along with a heinous amount of speed. It makes you incredibly hectic, and I had nervous ticks for at least 12 hours, couldn't sleep when I came home, started talking to myself whenever I was about to fall asleep, thoughts chasing themselves in the most absurd circles.. much like the effects of dehydration.
I took a "normal" pill (there were "strong" ones, too) that was dosed at, I think, 120mg, when the above happened to me.
I later tried taking a quarter pill, with the result that I actually ONLY got the side effects and none of the positive effects.
So yeah, don't try it, it's not worth it.
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
the effects section of the wikipedia article sums it up very nicely:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine[/url]
The effects they list as "enhanced sociability" and "desire to move", and later "confusion", "repetitive thought patterns", "insomnia", were especially pronounced for me, with the last two being so unenjoyable that I'll never touch it again. I also guess "stereotypy" is probably what I called "nervous ticks" above.
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
I also realize you might not even have heard of it before I posted this, and now that I said "don't", you've only really become interested, and that, people, is why prevention as we know it doesn't work.
[QUOTE]Benzylpiperazine Wikipedia: Half-life 5.5 Hours[3][/QUOTE]
Damn! Dat chemical half life! In about 20 hours almost all of the molecules will disappear.
I'm kinda torn on what to think of Kava? I mean there is very little research on it.... Kava pills are recorded to destroy kidneys. But perhaps there was something wrong with the pill, maybe to much concentrated kava, maybe the additives? I mean natives in the Pacific do it once a day and they don't have access to kidney surgery so they would all be dead if those statistics were true. Anyone ever done it?
catnip will not get you high OP, give it to your cats instead ;)
[QUOTE]catnip will not get you high OP, give it to your cats instead ;)[/QUOTE]
Catnip won't get you "high" just a little relaxing "buzz".
Good for if you need to take a nap or something of the sorts.
or if you just want to feel like a cat
[QUOTE=/B/rother;45749752]or if you just want to feel like a cat[/QUOTE]
Your avatar, thats how cats experience catnip, they trip really hard on it.
[QUOTE=SweetTea;45746740]catnip will not get you high OP, give it to your cats instead ;)[/QUOTE]
presuming catnip is meow? and you must be dizzy, 4+ grams of that and your sorted for a few hours.
cheap as fuck, can usually get 5 grams for £45
I used to have a big bag of catnip until the cats found where i was hiding it. I woke up one day to find catnip all over the floor, with two high as fuck cats lying around in it.
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