• Transgenderism, should it be accepted or not?
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[QUOTE=second;44315371]id never hang out with a tranny, so let me topple that assertion right there. secondly, it'd be super easy to point out if they were pre-op or post-op, as they would just look like greasy guys. i don't know what world you think that YOU live in but when u watch anime all day and desperately yearn to be the popular anime girl (pixie in this case) it doesn't really make u any less of a nerd or any closer to your goal of being that very same animated girl[/QUOTE] You made an alt just so you could insult someone in a debate thread, good going there bro. [QUOTE=second;44315371]secondly, it'd be super easy to point out if they were pre-op or post-op, as they would just look like greasy guys.[/QUOTE] Loads of guys can manage to look [I]very[/I] girly without being on hormones. Those with naturally feminine looks don't have to work too hard for it. They might not even be transgender. [QUOTE=second;44315405]face it u were friends with them cuz its the only ass u could ever get; nobody attractive wanted the sloppy leftovers of a psuedo-man[/QUOTE] Lol
face it u were friends with them cuz its the only ass u could ever get; nobody attractive wanted the sloppy leftovers of a psuedo-man
[QUOTE=second;44315371]id never hang out with a tranny, so let me topple that assertion right there. secondly, it'd be super easy to point out if they were pre-op or post-op, as they would just look like greasy guys. i don't know what world you think that YOU live in but when u watch anime all day and desperately yearn to be the popular anime girl (pixie in this case) it doesn't really make u any less of a nerd or any closer to your goal of being that very same animated girl[/QUOTE] Oh sweetie. [I]Oh sweetie[/I]. You realize that the majority of the changes to happen in a transgirls transition are based around hormones and not surgery, right? Surgery is a very personal thing that you will never really see the result off, unless you're dating her. Maybe you base your perception of transgirls on TV chariactures and don't realize that the majority of transgirls in the world, even non-op ones, you'd never ever know. Does that scare you?
[QUOTE=second;44315405]face it u were friends with them cuz its the only ass u could ever get; nobody attractive wanted the sloppy leftovers of a psuedo-man[/QUOTE] except I've had regular girlfriends and boyfriends through out my life and have never actually dated a trans person. So what exactly are you talking about? Do you care to debate or are you just going to shitpost?
[QUOTE=NotYou3;44315383]i honestly cant believe that anybody in their right mind wouldnt think like that[/QUOTE] So.......why? Why do you think girls can't have a penis? It's honestly not that difficult to differentiate between sex, and gender. Seriously. [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=second;44315405]face it u were friends with them cuz its the only ass u could ever get; nobody attractive wanted the sloppy leftovers of a psuedo-man[/QUOTE] Obvious troll. Possible alt of that thread shitter that got banned earlier and is on their last warning?
[QUOTE=Pudding~;44315408]Oh sweetie. [I]Oh sweetie[/I]. You realize that the majority of the changes to happen in a transgirls transition are based around hormones and not surgery, right? Surgery is a very personal thing that you will never really see the result off, unless you're dating her. Maybe you base your perception of transgirls on TV chariactures and don't realize that the majority of transgirls in the world, even non-op ones, you'd never ever know. Does that scare you?[/QUOTE] im scared by your effeminite attitude and attempt to use fruedian logic to intimidate, demean, and scare me because of ur inability to comprehend my argument as anything other than an attack on 'women' at large. how are you gonna start off your next post? 'i made u cookies honey have fun at school' then ill really be fuckin spooked mate
[QUOTE=Pudding~;44315329]You're really kinda closed minded...[/QUOTE] i would have stuck with really dim it's the truth :o
[QUOTE=second;44315459]im scared by your effeminite attitude and attempt to use fruedian logic to intimidate, demean, and scare me because of ur inability to comprehend my argument as anything other than an attack on 'women' at large. how are you gonna start off your next post? 'i made u cookies honey have fun at school' then ill really be fuckin spooked mate[/QUOTE] would you post an actual argument please? you're still just shit posting and attacking posters personally.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44315467]would you post an actual argument please? you're still just shit posting and attacking posters personally.[/QUOTE] It's a troll alt, no reason he would bother trying to make any decent arguments on the account [editline]<3[/editline] That didn't take long, cheers Megafan
[QUOTE=Solomon;44315460]i would have stuck with really dim it's the truth :o[/QUOTE] I used to be a really nasty aggressive person, so I changed a lot of who I am since then and I don't like anything I say to come across as an insult if I can help it :x it means I edit my posts a lot, but I do try to come across as sweet.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;44315489]It's a troll alt, no reason he would bother trying to make any decent arguments on the account[/QUOTE] it's easier to get them banned when they outright dodge arguments and continue to shitpost.
my friend NotYou3 asked me to post this on his behalf [QUOTE=Solomon;44315428]So.......why? Why do you think girls can't have a penis? It's honestly not that difficult to differentiate between sex, and gender. Seriously. [editline]21st March 2014[/editline] Obvious troll. Possible alt of that thread shitter that got banned earlier and is on their last warning?[/QUOTE] NotYou3: "no im not a troll this is my main account im just not a dumbass living in some made-up fantasy land. i live in the real world where if you are a dude you're a fucking dude. deal with it. be as camp and effeminate as you want but do yourself a fucking favour and realise that YOU ARE A DUDE" [highlight](User was banned for this post ("He's already been banned for these posts, posting for him is essentially ban evasion" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44315467]would you post an actual argument please? you're still just shit posting and attacking posters personally.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/zkXwXcm.png[/img] [editline]22nd March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Pudding~;44315493]I used to be a really nasty aggressive person, so I changed a lot of who I am since then and I don't like anything I say to come across as an insult if I can help it :x it means I edit my posts a lot, but I do try to come across as sweet.[/QUOTE] see thats totally effeminite good job pixie girl so sweet so nice that was really nice jk [img]http://i.imgur.com/zkXwXcm.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Pudding~;44315493]I used to be a really nasty aggressive person, so I changed a lot of who I am since then and I don't like anything I say to come across as an insult if I can help it :x it means I edit my posts a lot, but I do try to come across as sweet.[/QUOTE] Saying sweetie is real condescending, putting flowery words in your posts doesn't make them any less passive aggressive. Pretending to be something you aren't isn't right, just like how a man is a man at birth and is only a man, no matter how much they wish to be otherwise. No matter how much surgery or hormones is used, the gender will truly never change. Instead you create an abomination that should never exist. Let this be a lesson to you. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("This is not debating - ban history" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=LeonS;44315563]my friend NotYou3 asked me to post this on his behalf NotYou3: "no im not a troll this is my main account im just not a dumbass living in some made-up fantasy land. i live in the real world where if you are a dude you're a fucking dude. deal with it. be as camp and effeminate as you want but do yourself a fucking favour and realise that YOU ARE A DUDE"[/QUOTE] What makes mtf folk men?
[QUOTE=The Spike;44315605]No matter how much surgery or hormones is used, the gender will truly never change.[/QUOTE] Sex not gender. And that's incorrect anyways. There have been many advances in what's possible in the last decade and in the future there's a very strong possibility of making a transgender person functionally the same physically as they identify. It just might be several decades before it happens is all.
[QUOTE=Solomon;44315647]What makes mtf folk men?[/QUOTE] do i fucking look like notyou3 to you ok apparently he says i look like him notyou3: "idk how to respond to that because if you have had surgery to change yourself into a woman you are beyond hope anyway"
this is probably one of the worst threads i've ever seen it's devolved in to anything [I]but[/I] debating. shit flinging more like
[QUOTE=Alice3173;44315650]Sex not gender. And that's incorrect anyways. There have been many advances in what's possible in the last decade and in the future there's a very strong possibility of making a transgender person functionally the same physically as they identify. It just might be several decades before it happens is all.[/QUOTE] sex and gender are, unequivocally, undoubtedly, the same exact thing. the only percieved difference is the one u all create for yourselves in an attempt to sate the nagging desire for acceptance despite the fact u indulge a delusion.
[QUOTE=LeonS;44315673]do i fucking look like notyou3 to you ok apparently he says i look like him notyou3: "idk how to respond to that because if you have had surgery to change yourself into a woman you are beyond hope anyway"[/QUOTE] what does that even mean, notyou3 D:
[QUOTE=third;44315726]sex and gender are, unequivocally, undoubtedly, the same exact thing. the only percieved difference is the one u all create for yourselves in an attempt to sate the nagging desire for acceptance despite the fact u indulge a delusion.[/QUOTE] except they're not and more intelligent and studied people than you have proven this to be the case. sorry but saying you're right and that's that is about as stupid as an argument can get and shows the lack of argumentative capacity and validity of the position if it cannot be argued properly. but you're beyond hope anyways right?
[QUOTE=third;44315726]sex and gender are, unequivocally, undoubtedly, the same exact thing. the only percieved difference is the one u all create for yourselves in an attempt to sate the nagging desire for acceptance despite the fact u indulge a delusion.[/QUOTE] Lol, no. Gender and sex are two completely separate things. If you think otherwise then you are either misinformed or just willfully ignorant. Psychologists (you know, the experts on the subject of the mind) have kinda been in general agreement for about a century that they are two completely separate concepts.
[QUOTE=The Spike;44315605]Saying sweetie is real condescending, putting flowery words in your posts doesn't make them any less passive aggressive. Pretending to be something you aren't isn't right, just like how a man is a man at birth and is only a man, no matter how much they wish to be otherwise. No matter how much surgery or hormones is used, the gender will truly never change. Instead you create an abomination that should never exist. Let this be a lesson to you.[/QUOTE] a lesson? that was a statement. not a lesson. a lesson contains a reason and a logical explanation as to why something is a repeatable truth. from what we can tell, and what advanced science can tell on this subject, you're wrong and a simple statement that you're right isn't very strong.
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Good show, you're a really mature human being capable of great deals of intelligent thought.
boy, this is a shit flinging fest [sp]and a semen flinging fest as well apparently hue[/sp] okay im out. Had been monitoring the thread for a few days, and saw a post that legitimately made me want to respond, but I've responded and it's devolved further. So. I'm out.
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Its hilarious how the ones fighting for black and white definition can't actually form an argument so they resort to being as obnoxious as they can, cursing, and demeaning others. Newsflash LeonS, NotYou3, and every other sperg who can't debate worth dick; being loud doesn't make you right. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up.
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i'll never understand why someone wants to be so abrasive, brash, and utterly ridiculous. like you're literally wasting your time to try and discourage people who have long since disregarded you as nothing more than the picture you've posted here and yet you're still trying to tell us something you find profound? good job. you're literally a child.
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