[QUOTE=kill3r;41952516]If someone found out they would probably bury me alive or in concrete or something and that would be the worst thing ever[/QUOTE]
I almost just had a panic attack over the thought of this :v:
i think the problem is there are a few ideas of what immortality means. if it means you just live forever without getting sick/aging, then sure you can die, you also can get trapped, overpowered and locked in a box with no way out. think about it, prisons are engineered to beyond human capabilities. if you are just a normal human besides not aging, if you are locked in prison for life, your fucked.
if being immortal means you are indestructable, you still can be overpowered, just by using means beyond human capabilities. means such as oooh idk dropping something rediculously heavy ontop of you or like trapping you inside a very tight box.
i'd still take immortality even if it just was an opportunity to view humanity on a timescale outside of our own. it always still boggles my mind reading historys of like the roman empire where the dates of events are over a hundred years appart yet they are still connected. i mean back then that was like 3-4 generations of people living to their 50s and 60s.
[editline]1st September 2013[/editline]
things like the 10,000 clock are just mind blowing when you actually stop to think about it. Humans have only been around for a little while longer than that as a species. Human civilization has only existed on a fraction of that time, they are planning to build a device that will outlive humanity as a species and as a civilization. how many generations does 10,000 years come out to be, thousands of people living from their birth to their death and they can still all view this clock (hopefully)
Ya gotta think what would Vandal Savage do? It be a blessing you could amass a fortune and go all super villain.
[QUOTE=Corewarp3;41968451]Blessing. If you want to die, you can suicide at any time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]you're also indestructible and you don't feel physical pain[/QUOTE]
You can't suicide.
My opinion would be a curse. Imagine if your stuck in a well and cant get out. You cant die either because your immortal.
[QUOTE=MaikkiBoi;41970660][thumb]http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/946510059-00.jpg[/thumb]
After reading this, I take it as a curse.[/QUOTE]
Oh fucking christ no please don't mention this. Please.
Also it would be a blessing until you start trying to change the world, and somebody wants to bury you in cement. What if your butt started itching? Worst torture ever.
dream job
being part of a skeleton crew on an inter-stellar cargo ship that runs between solar systems delivering frozen colonists (15 parsecs or less or its free!) spending much of my wake cycle looking at the stars and watching old movies while the ship slips along in the bleak darkness between stars.
being immortal would probably be a prerequisit because of the time required between journey lengths
It'd only be a matter of time before evolution continued and you were a freak of nature.
You wouldn't be able to eat the same foods as everyone else, etc.
Plus, at some point in your long and everlasting life, you'd get trapped somewhere in a natural disaster or bombing or something, and you'd be trapped. Forever. With nobody to save you.
It'd be a curse. Why would you want to live past 90?
:words:
The emotional contributors from being Immortal need not be based upon human emotional qualities.
Our emotions are indicators of vast systems of subconscious environments that monitor and engage our health systems; and for humans, cognitive systems.
Only two things are required to be happy as a human: good health, and being broadly grateful.
A feeling of being grateful, not being grateful to something or someone.
So after the first 100,000 years will you still be grateful?
For altered humans or non-humans, this may not be an issue. Either controlled happiness, or existence without happiness and without disparity, may not necessarily detract from quality of life. Being immortal, biologically we will not evolve. While the progeny of our species does evolve to the point of being recognizably and functionally unrelated. But technologically we can evolve together through cybernetics.
At some point we will build universes of our own designs. Different discussion:
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But in the process of evolving technologically and becoming immortal, we will eventually evolve into beings that have strong connections with every element of a universe. We currently call these beings Gods, but as a member of an advanced civilization the activities would continue to evolve into alternate dimensional spaces. Then what?
A theory of mine based upon quantum causality is that every universe eventually evolves to exactly repeat itself. So all the evolution that we do will eventually evolve systems whose outcomes eventually come back to this same outcome.
We are immortal, because we eventually repeat.
Immortality in common terms depends upon remembering and having references to have lived. But the process of evolving erases all remnants of having existed.
Being immortal is neither a curse nor a blessing, it is just the structure in which we exist.
As far as I'm concerned its a cure. People always cite being bored as a reason against it, yet have no idea if death really is better. At least in life you can actually make choices and change things, death however is very much final.
[editline]2nd September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Shdowofthepain;42051992]It'd be a curse. Why would you want to live past 90?[/QUOTE]
To see what becomes of the world? I'm sure people back in the 12th century thought the exact same thing but would likely change their tune if they saw what we have today.
Depends on your feelings , or in your believings , you can't live anymore without your family and thinks if you kill yourself you will be with them , so that's a curse , on the other side if you dont believe in anything and dont miss your family or friends or whatever its a blessing ,thats my point of view
If I could stay in my mid 20's-30's forever why not.
Do you still feel pain if you are immortal/need to do things like eat food (or not eat food and start to feel incredibly shitty continuously getting worse).
[QUOTE=elowin;41811993]someone puts you in a cage
good game you lost and you are now stuck for the next couple hundred thousand years, have fun.[/QUOTE]
nope, with your immortality you can just slowly claw away and erode the cage bars
I'd say that it'd be a blessing actually, with the inability to be harmed thrown in.
Literally nothing could stop you forever, only slow you down. A prison or blockade would eventually open back up, fall apart or otherwise become permeable, and even if it didn't you could always create your own way out bit-by-bit with enough time and cunning. I assume that, with literally forever to hone yourself, you'd also quickly figure out how to "sleep" for long periods of time if truly trapped or otherwise incapacitated.
Along with being literally unstoppable, you'd also have all of the time in the universe to figure things out and improve yourself. Aging and injury would be unable to hinder you or prevent you from doing what you wanted, allowing you unlimited time to learn new things and gain new skills. Want to be a theoretical physicist this decade? Sure, and you can be a master pianist the next!
You could even use your power to assist in humanity's growth and development, if you were crafty enough to avoid attention, or at least the bad kind of attention. If you could keep your presence hidden and influence events from the shadows, you might be able to change the course of the future for the better. You may not even have to stay entirely hidden, because there's a pretty good chance that at least one person on Earth would want to assist you in your endeavours for as long as they could. You could even be able to ascend to a position of incredible power if you played your cards right, perhaps uniting humanity under one flag with decades or centuries of work.
Even if humanity proved to not be worth your time and effort, or just entirely resistant to your efforts to help, you could always just find a way off this planet. With no restrictions on time or life, you could devote a lifetime or two entirely to studying faster-than-light space travel, and create a ship on which to travel to a new world. You may even become the parent of a new sentient species on a world far from our own, with the right planning, research and technology. Maybe you'd find currently-existing aliens and become friends with them. Hell, if you wanted to be really depressing, you could always just commit suicide by flying into the gaping maw of a black hole. I doubt that even the most powerful (scientific) forms of immortality could allow you to survive having your atomic structure ripped apart.
When it comes to staying sane with the rigors of living forever, I think you'd be able to keep decently sane by just continually working toward something, anything. Be it something pointless like watching every television show that aired in the 90s, or something as critical as altering the entire planet or humanity as we know them, having a goal to strive for at all times would greatly ease the psychological stress of such a long life. You'd be too busy working toward something important to you to worry about yourself much, and a feeling of responsibility toward the planet, humanity, or something else you care about would help you pick yourself up from feeling hopeless.
All-in-all, I think it'd be a massive blessing if you had the drive and desire to do great things with your infinite time on this world, or maybe even on another. You could pretty much do anything you wished, given enough time and effort. Some of the more negative aspects might bog you down if you let them, but in the end you'd always be able to break out of any restraints placed upon you by the universe, psychology or people with enough effort. Nothing short of the end of all existence could permanently stop you unless you let it, nothing would be out of your reach unless you chose not to grasp for it. You'd be a god given flesh, with the choice to hide and work alone, show yourself and receive both loving support and hateful hindrance, or even leave humanity entirely for something better.
Basically, I think it would only be a curse if you let it be a curse. It'd be up to you to make something good of it. All of existence would be your oyster, and you'd have to choose whether to harvest and shape it to your liking, or let it rot.
Curse.
Seeing people die, possibility of becoming homeless (OH BOY IMMORTAL HOBO), disease, etc.
Not worth it unless I'm guaranteed good health, decent wealth, and at least being able to tag people I know to share immortality with. Alone it would suck.
i was thinking this over tonight on the way to a band performance,
if i was immortal id have time to persue everything.
with the massive amounts of knowledge out there, its impossible for one person to learn it all, i'm in school to become a chemical engineer, but what if i wanted to also master mechanical engineering, then civil and computer and electrical engineering? while possible in one person's lifetime, thats like 20 years worth of schooling. and that is just the major schools of engineering, think about all the other carears one would be able to persue with enough time. like the imortals of star trek inserection, i could become a master of the arts, greater than the greatest of our artists. so ya, if applied constructively id say its more than a blessing.
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
also to be able to view humanity on a timescale removed from the norm would be worth it. the only problem is i guess would be struggling against the dogma of the regular mortals, hell even today i want to bash my head in when i see the incredible shortsightedness of our representatives in office, i can't imagine how horrible and frustrating it would be fighting that while being able to think on the terms of centuries.
[editline]15th September 2013[/editline]
plus being immortal id surmise there would be a segment of people who would be increadibly distrustful of me and try to destroy me or at least keep me from any sort of position to manipulate human history
Living through a hellish life and witnessing the downfalls of humanity make immortality eternal hell to me. Too much to develop and the pain of life just never ends. Only if the future would get better which does not seem so all the time. No matter what there will always be big problems, and having to deal with them for eternity is all in all hell to me.
it'd be a nice blessing if only YOU could kill yourself. With....Lets....Say.......A......GUN!!!
A curse. If you find yourself caught in an accident, you'll be trapped there forever.
I wouldn't quite want immortality, but longevity. I'd love to be able to learn and experience as much as possible, but once I'd run out of things to do and be, and I was trapped on the burnt-out ball of rock that is the Earth in a few billion years or floating in space for eons, I'd rather end it. That or be immortal but able to hibernate at will until something interesting happens.
so basically everyone wants to be immortal as long as you don't get bored
I'm immortal and it rocks
[editline]19th September 2013[/editline]
serious answer tho, imagine hundreds and thousands of years from now, being an underevolved being, constantly trying to catch up with the world, never able to relate to anyone. it might suck. I mean we die for a reason, so we can be replaced with a fresh generation. as an immortal being you'd just become more and more decrepit and overfilled with the knowledge of the world.
and if you were immortal, would you ever do anything with a sense of purpose? death is a nice motivator to get things done in a timely fashion.
it's interesting that a yearning for immortality is so popular with people. maybe it's good to have that as a dream, like we need to have this struggle, this clash between what we want and what is real, for us to accomplish things
I'd say it's a curse, since you'd be watching your friends and family die without the ability to do anything about it.
definitely a curse, but it would be great to be healthy until the day you die
A curse, if you're immortal by definition you could never die so you'd be stuck forever, even if humans were always around there'd be a limit where'd you would have had enough.
Same problem with Heaven I guess :v:
A definite curse. You would see the world around you die, and you would stay healthy while those you love ebb away in their final days, and (for if you believe in an afterlife) you will be unable to join them.
Immortality is anything but wonderful.
Why do people say nothing can stop you? I wouldn't want to live for centuries trapped underground while trying to dig up if that ever happened
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42255218]Why do people say nothing can stop you? I wouldn't want to live for centuries trapped underground while trying to dig up if that ever happened[/QUOTE]
This is another point. You aren't given herculean strength, you can still succumb to abject misery for years on end
[editline]20th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Corewarp3;41968451]Blessing. If you want to die, you can suicide at any time.[/QUOTE]
If the rule is that you are able to take your own life, then it may be less so a curse, but still hellacious for those too afraid to do it/don't want to lose what they've gained.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;42255310]This is another point. You aren't given herculean strength, you can still succumb to abject misery for years on end
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True, and I'm sure you could still feel pain, perhaps someone could cut off your limbs or something and you'd just be a head for eternity.
But even living normally forever would be bad as one day you'd most likely be alone and then you'd just be waiting billions of years for the universe to collapse I guess, from there I'm not sure.
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