• We Must Stop All Research Into Extending Human Lifespans
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[QUOTE=dgg;24450902]Who ever said you needed to be violent? What the hell man. You can be angry and vent off your anger without resorting to violence. So you're telling me, that if you're angry at a person for having raped your girlfriend and then beat her up you should just try to understand that person and stop being angry at him? What are you? A retard? Of course you get angry and let him hear it. And who are you calling ignorant? You have ignored many of my arguments before and also sprouted nonsense.[/QUOTE] you i like the fact that you do not learn from past posts. like i said what if you stopped people from raping
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24450975]you i like the fact that you do not learn from past posts. like i said what if you stopped people from raping[/QUOTE] But that's basically impossible.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24450975]you i like the fact that you do not learn from past posts. like i said what if you stopped people from raping[/QUOTE] You can't fucking stop people from raping. That's the whole problem where your idiocy comes in and your magic cure-everything-fix-everything science. Also that has nothing to do with the post. Altering peoples brains and removing human features has nothing to do with keeping in your anger. Stop mixing up different discussions we've had to make yourself look smart. KEEP THINGS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND. [editline]03:28AM[/editline] [QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24450995]But that's basically impossible.[/QUOTE] Not basically even. It's impossible, end of discussion. Not but, what, if, anything. It is 100% [B]I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E[/B].
[QUOTE=dgg;24450997]You can't fucking stop people from raping. That's the whole problem where your idiocy comes in and your magic cure-everything-fix-everything science. Also that has nothing to do with the post. Altering peoples brains and removing human features has nothing to do with keeping in your anger. Stop mixing up different discussions we've had to make yourself look smart. KEEP THINGS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND. [editline]03:28AM[/editline] Not basically even. It's impossible, end of discussion. Not but, what, if, anything. It is 100% [B]I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E[/B].[/QUOTE] you can make it rare alot more rare then it is today
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451087]you can make it rare alot more rare then it is today[/QUOTE] And how could you do that? How can you remove a base emotion from someone's mind?
Our bodies are not programmed to ever die... [b]ever[/b] The reason we do die (of old age) is because of free radicals that slowly destroy our bodies. We live so long because our bodies have defenses to free radicals(rodents, pets, etc live shorter lives because they have worse defense), we just need a way to slow down or stop free radicals from destroying us and we can live forever basically. Also as we get into our senior years and stuff mortality comes into play, you can basically stop aging (if you did solved the free radical thing) but you could still have a 50%, or 40%, or 5% chance of dying each year or something.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451087]you can make it rare alot more rare then it is today[/QUOTE] BUT YOU CAN'T STOP IT. Goddamn fucking Jesus titty fucking Christ on a skewed pole sent out of Satans ass sent in the speed of light through Virgin Marias vagina! STOP CHANGING YOUR OPINION. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT. STOP BEING IRRELEVANT. You're just circlejerking around the exact same fucking shit and keep repeating the exact same arguments. [list]First you talk about keeping anger in.[/list] [list]Then I say that is not good.[/list] [list]Then you say it is good and you should understand the other person and not get violent.[/list] [list]Then I say I never mentioned violence and brought up an example where your girlfriend gets raped and it would be stupid to keep in the anger as it wouldn't be good for you.[/list] [list]Then you all of a sudden bring up the subject of removing the cause of rape which has nothing to do with it[/list] [list]Then I say it is impossible[/list] [list]Then you change your argument to "but you can make it rare"[/list] Do you see what you are doing here? YOU ARE GOING AGAINST YOURSELF. Your counter argument to me was irrelevant and was about there being no rape. But then you say there can exist some rape completely ruining your argument that there is no rape so that situation wouldn't happen. I can sum this up very simply like this: I am right, and you are wrong and going against yourself. [editline]03:37AM[/editline] [QUOTE=L'ordinateur;24451184]Our bodies are not programmed to ever die... [b]ever[/b] The reason we do die (of old age) is because of free radicals that slowly destroy our bodies. We live so long because our bodies have defenses to free radicals(rodents, pets, etc live shorter lives because they have worse defense), we just need a way to slow down or stop free radicals from destroying us and we can live forever basically. Also as we get into our senior years and stuff mortality comes into play, you can basically stop aging (if you did solved the free radical thing) but you could still have a 50%, or 40%, or 5% chance of dying each year or something.[/QUOTE] Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. We die because we stop re-producing our cells. The reason we stop re-producing cells is to avoid dying from cancer.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24451135]And how could you do that? How can you remove a base emotion from someone's mind?[/QUOTE] well first off rape is not an emotion but sexual desire is. but i dont really need to prove to you because in denmark rape is very rare so right there is the proof you need but the reason why it is rare is because people arnt poor there and because of that females dont need a man to survive so they are more open and have more sex with men so more men get more sex and dont need rape
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451276]well first off rape is not an emotion but sexual desire is. but i dont really need to prove to you because in denmark rape is very rare so right there is the proof you need but the reason why it is rare is because people arnt poor there and because of that females dont need a man to survive so they are more open and have more sex with men so more men get more sex and dont need rape[/QUOTE] Being poor has nothing to do with rape. What the hell kind of books are you reading? Your argument is the same as soccer moms and media. Kids play games. Some kid that play that game does something violent. Games are violent. You just see that there is a lot of rape going on in poor countries and then you conclude with this: poor = increased rape. So you know what. I give up on you. You contradict yourself a lot. You bring up retarded "Let's all be friends" logic arguments from a 13 year old kid that thinks he can save the world and that it is done by the push of a button. You have no concept of reality and believe anything can be fixed by science. And your grammar and spelling is horrible so it's hard to understand what you say at times. Stay at school, pay attention to class and learn things from real life and not only books.
[QUOTE=dgg;24451298]Being poor has nothing to do with rape. What the hell kind of books are you reading? Your argument is the same as soccer moms and media. Kids play games. Some kid that play that game does something violent. Games are violent. You just see that there is a lot of rape going on in poor countries and then you conclude with this: poor = increased rape.[/QUOTE] if you read what i just put then you would get it or you did read it and you cant put 2and 2 together f that is the case i will dumb it down for you
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451276]well first off rape is not an emotion but sexual desire is. but i dont really need to prove to you because in [B]denmark rape is very rare so right there is the proof you need but the reason why it is rare is because people arnt poor[/B] there and because of that females dont need a man to survive so they are more open and have more sex with men so more men get more sex and dont need rape[/QUOTE] By base emotion I meant lust. Correlation does not equal causation.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24451398]By base emotion I meant lust. Correlation does not equal causation.[/QUOTE] well in its self lust isnt a bad thing but rape is
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451380]if you read what i just put then you would get it or you did read it and you cant put 2and 2 together f that is the case i will dumb it down for you[/QUOTE] I read what you said, and yes, it is part of the reason, but far far far far away from the whole reason. Poornes is only ONE of the many elements that causes rape. [editline]03:44AM[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451427]well in its self lust isnt a bad thing but rape is[/QUOTE] :downs: Thanks for stating the obvious. A fork isn't a bad thing either but it can be used as a weapon by stabbing people with it. Sun's argument here is that if you want to stop people from raping you need to stop people from having lust. Basically, you need to stop people from wanting to have babies and reproduce leading to the end of human kind.
[QUOTE=dgg;24451430]I read what you said, and yes, it is part of the reason, but far far far far away from the whole reason. Poornes is only ONE of the many elements that causes rape. [editline]03:44AM[/editline] :downs: Thanks for stating the obvious. A fork isn't a bad thing either but it can be used as a weapon by stabbing people with it. Sun's argument here is that if you want to stop people from raping you need to stop people from having lust. Basically, you need to stop people from wanting to have babies and reproduce leading to the end of human kind.[/QUOTE] well Denmark has to be doing something right if it has so little rape and like i said not being poor is it because like i said it will make females more independent
[QUOTE=dgg;24451215] Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.[/QUOTE] Wrong. That one Asian guy told me about it on the science channel, bro.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24451646]well Denmark has to be doing something right if it has so little rape and like i said not being poor is it because like i said it will make females more independent[/QUOTE] That is some serious mental gymnastics that you are doing to make yourself seem right, bro. People aren't poor, so women have sex with a wider variety of men, so men don't want sex as much, so rape decreases.
As long as there is a need for labor for everyone to live a comfortable life, there will be a need for money. Obviously this won't go away any time soon, but I don't understand why it's a bad thing to shoot for.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24451772]That is some serious mental gymnastics that you are doing to make yourself seem right, bro. People aren't poor, so women have sex with a wider variety of men, so men don't want sex as much, so rape decreases.[/QUOTE] first off this is not me who come with this conclusion it was a study done 65 months ago and is excepted by science so im right with that one no matter what you say so to add i aint playing mental jump rope so it seems like its you that is doing that [editline]07:05PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobv2;24451869]As long as there is a need for labor for everyone to live a comfortable life, there will be a need for money. Obviously this won't go away any time soon, but I don't understand why it's a bad thing to shoot for.[/QUOTE] thats what robots are for
[QUOTE=woodlander;24441227] Unless we start colonizing space, which doesn't seem like it will be happening any time soon, where the hell would you put all these people?[/QUOTE] Obama killed spending on the Space Program, so unless you're from China (which doesn't explain how you're on the internet with Facepunch being censored) then you're not gonna inhabit space, anyways.
[QUOTE=Bllasae;24452031]Obama killed spending on the Space Program, so unless you're from China (which doesn't explain how you're on the internet with Facepunch being censored) then you're not gonna inhabit space, anyways.[/QUOTE] they just gave alot of money to nasa a week ago
Woah, we have nanotech now? Sign me up!
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24452075]they just gave alot of money to nasa a week ago[/QUOTE] Sauce? Also, they cut spending and this is the last launch.
from what I understand, we weren't biologically designed to die of old age. In our mitochondria, there are little things called Free Radicals (or something like that), and over time they escape the mitochondria and bombard our DNA like tiny cannonballs. Then our cells replicate with defects, and things stop working, like pigment production in our hair. So eventually we would die from something being defected that shouldn't have. I might be wrong about that, though.
[QUOTE=Bllasae;24452255]Sauce? Also, they cut spending and this is the last launch.[/QUOTE] i heard it on rocket boom or somthing
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24452356]i heard it on rocket boom or somthing[/QUOTE] Well, this is gonna be their last launch, unfortunately. Obama cut the budget to waste on something.
I believe with the speed of technological advancements along with the ability to extend our lifespans, humanity won't have a problem sustaining its existence, even with longer lives. The only real problems I see will be when religion kicks in. I'm not the most devout religious person, not even close, but it still bothers me once in a while to think about it. But man wouldn't it be kickass to live longer... That is to say, if the technology extending our lives also extends our body's health, because I'd rather not be frail and weak and be 200 years old. I'd kind of just be waiting to die at that point, since I wouldn't be able to do anything.
[QUOTE=Kiwi Bird;24452295]from what I understand, we weren't biologically designed to die of old age. In our mitochondria, there are little things called Free Radicals (or something like that), and over time they escape the mitochondria and bombard our DNA like tiny cannonballs. Then our cells replicate with defects, and things stop working, like pigment production in our hair. So eventually we would die from something being defected that shouldn't have. I might be wrong about that, though.[/QUOTE] No, you are right. That is what I said, but way better.
[QUOTE=Kiwi Bird;24452295]from what I understand, we weren't biologically designed to die of old age. In our mitochondria, there are little things called Free Radicals (or something like that), and over time they escape the mitochondria and bombard our DNA like tiny cannonballs. Then our cells replicate with defects, and things stop working, like pigment production in our hair. So eventually we would die from something being defected that shouldn't have. I might be wrong about that, though.[/QUOTE] Evolution and adaptation, we would change to support the longer life.
[QUOTE=Drakehawke;24452534]Evolution and adaptation, we would change to support the longer life.[/QUOTE] we also were not born with wings and yet we fly
[QUOTE=Bllasae;24452439]Well, this is gonna be their last launch, unfortunately. Obama cut the budget to waste on something.[/QUOTE] They shut down the Constellation Project, which was just intended for returning to the moon primarily. After that, it was decided that the focus would be on travel to Mars and deep-space exploration. It was a better idea. The necessity for Moon exploration is limited. But even with all of the studying, Mars is still largely a mystery and the technology developed for making a manned flight to Mars would have vast benefits here. [editline]09:34PM[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24452582]we also were not born with wings and yet we fly[/QUOTE] We don't fly. Machines fly, we ride with them.
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