[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;33066309]neither space nor time actually exist as set things, they are merely created through interaction of different energies with each other.
true reality is pure energy.[/QUOTE]
But mass and energy are unified.
This question can have no good answer unless we define sentience & human perception clearly.
Why is there daylight savings? It just proves time is a measurement and you can minipulate it to your specifications. Why isn't time counted by 10's. 60 is a very random number, so is 24.
Yes and no. Time goes on all the time, has been going on for 14 billion years now at least.
But as for our own timetable, it's simply for our Sun, our Earth, the distance between the two, the axis and the rotation.. shit like that, which gives us a day that lasts for 23 hours and some minutes to be specific.
And even then, the 23 hours and some minutes are just a measurement which we comprehend.. Seconds are kinda like our heart's pulse, too.
Time exists, but our measurements of it just help us keep track of when things happen in time.
It is true that there is no complete and adequate definition to fully explain it. It seems that there is so much that we don't understand about "time." I think it's just something that we have created with our limited understanding to cope with life and to function.
Maybe I have the wrong idea or not.
If the universe is constantly expanding, doesn't that mean time needs to exist? There has to be a way to measure the expansion of the universe, since it just doesn't become larger and smaller, it slowly moves to become larger and smaller.
[QUOTE=PaRappa;33186889]It is true that there is no complete and adequate definition to fully explain it. It seems that there is so much that we don't understand about "time." I think it's just something that we have created with our limited understanding to cope with life and to function.[/QUOTE]
How did we create time? I'm pretty sure that there was time before us. Actually you might say that time created us.
Time is one of the requisite conditions for the existence of matter; the other is space.
Our perception of time, however, is relative.
Time in the numerical sense is fake and man made.
Time in the "linear progression from point to point" sense exists.
I wrote this for my English class (it is pretty open-ended). I don't know how relevant it is, but lemme know your thoughts, and if you want to know my opinion on time being real, I think it isn't in the sense most people understand it.
Arizona has a different time than the rest of the lands in its timezone, however, within Arizona is a NA reservation that does DLS so that they have the same time as the rest of the timezone but a different time than Arizona.
[quote=Marcus' Paper for his English Class]
Marcus Jones
ENGL 101-A
Time
Describe
Time is ability to perceive an update, that is, a difference in the state of the universe and label it “then” and “now.” People assume there is only one way to perceive time. However, there could be infinitely many methods to understand a difference in time. Although the assumed method of perception replaces completely what was “then,” another could be adding what is “now” to what was “then.”
Only the past and present exist, the future does not. The concept of the future exists but it cannot be experienced; when it is experienced it is the “now.” The future only ever exists as a concept because if it existed as a fact, there would truly be no choice, no free will in the existence of animals. The state of the future in this universe could not exist because there are infinitely many possible states; if they all existed, the universe would be cluttered with all the possible states.
The assumed method of perception will be known as the replacement method. Every update of time is replaced entirely by the “now.” The image that we see is completely new, even if it appears the same as the image as what was seen previously. As this is read by someone, it would appear that there is no change, but truly there has been a minute change in the universe’s state of being. This could be visualized as a drawing on a whiteboard; whatever had been drawn on it will be erased and then replaced by a new version of what was previously drawn. In a video game there are commands to update and then to clear the screen of what was previously drawn and redraw image. In [i]The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion[/i] it is always updating, clearing and redrawing. When the player is standing and staring at one spot and it appears that there has been no change, there actually have been many changes that are not automatically perceived; over time, though, that change will be perceived.
Another method, which will be known as the additive method, adds new images of separate entities while preserving the previous images. For an example, imagine a filmstrip that has the image of a person moving. Take filmstrip and stack the frames on top of each other from the “oldest” to the “newest” instead of looking at them individually in sequence. The image that is of all the frames stacked together would have all of the previously observed states of the person’s movement. Now add a change of scene to the top of the stack of frames, and the previous scene of the person moving is now gone; as the person has moved out of view, all of their updates have been flushed from memory. However, if the person were to move back into view, all of their updates from the time they reenter the view are held in image.
Time truly has an unlimited number of possibilities in any element of it. These could elements be anything from how it flows to how it is perceived. Time could flow much like line, two different directions for infinity, or maybe it flows like a parabola and it starts at zero, reaches a peak, then again falls back to zero. Time could also be perceived by a dog differently than a human does, some animals might not even perceive time. There are so many possibilities in such a small word.
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Time is not a tangible thing, nor a property of anything. Time is independent of anything unless observed in the spacetime manifold. All ways to measure time, as of course something invented by men, as most ways to measure and observe natural phenomena have been, and it is quite easy to see that nothing can escape the grasp of time except light, which clearly interrelates both space and time.
Now to the actual problem with time though. You see, time is entirely relative to your current frame of reference. If you were to slow down a beam of light to a temperature stunningly close to absolute zero, you would pretty much literally be able to out-walk a beam of light, which doesn't entirely make sense as that would make you hypothetically superluminal. But in reality what is going on is that said beam of light is still moving at the fastest speed of that frame of reference, and that is the beauty of what we call "relativity".
Time is as real as it can be, it's unavoidable, ever present and tremendously hard to even attempt to control mainly due to how it is solely dependent on your point of view. It's as real as you make it to be.
So the moderators are ok with the Mass Debate section to be a slightly higher class Fast Threads?
How is "Is Time Real?" a valid debate topic? Can I just make a thread saying "What is love?", "Is the sky blue?", or "Does God exist?" and call it a legitimate topic?
It is not possible to debate whether time is real because it is an [b]obvious fact[/b] that time fits the definition of something that is "real".
Saying time is based on your perception is true but irrelevant because absolutely everything in this world is based on your perception.
Again time is an obvious and inescapable reality and a simple google search would enlighten you as to what time scientifically is considered.
This topic is clearly invalid as, again, it is not a topic for debate. It is a fact. This is not the "ask any question you feel like" section; mass debate should not be a section for resolving your own personal ambiguities about life.
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Saying time is based on your perception is true but irrelevant because absolutely everything in this world is based on your perception.[/QUOTE]
Oh no no, you can dismiss things in the world all you want, but you'd be a fool then. Time is literally based on your perception, there's no adequate measuring of it, Einstein puts it quite bluntly, two hours with a beautiful lady feel like 15 minutes, while 2 hours in a test feel like 5. You may say that both things took exactly 2 hours, as they could possibly be located in the frame of reference but doesn't that just quite show the absolutely dynamic way that time seems to flow?
[QUOTE=Big Bang;33193487]Oh no no, you can dismiss things in the world all you want, but you'd be a fool then. Time is literally based on your perception, there's no adequate measuring of it, Einstein puts it quite bluntly, two hours with a beautiful lady feel like 15 minutes, while 2 hours in a test feel like 5. You may say that both things took exactly 2 hours, as they could possibly be located in the frame of reference but doesn't that just quite show the absolutely dynamic way that time seems to flow?[/QUOTE]
What do you mean there is no "adequate" measure of it? Have you ever heard of a clock? Also I'm pretty sure Einstein wasn't implying that time wasn't a real thing he was merely demonstrating our perception of it.
My perception of time does not define what time is. Time is a global thing that affects everyone equally whether or not we have equal perception of it. Just like matter or space. Space exists and affects you regardless of your perception. Matter exists and affects you regardless of your perception. The same is true for time.
What is your point here?
How am I dismissing things in the world?
How does your argument even suggest time isn't real?
[QUOTE=0xDev;33193523]What do you mean there is no "adequate" measure of it? Have you ever heard of a clock? Also I'm pretty sure Einstein wasn't implying that time wasn't a real thing he was merely demonstrating our perception of it.
My perception of time does not define what time is. Time is a global thing that affects everyone equally whether or not we have equal perception of it. Just like matter or space. Space exists and affects you regardless of your perception. Matter exists and affects you regardless of your perception. The same is true for time.[/QUOTE]
Yes it does. A clock is a rather accurate way to measure it but it's not adequate for the whole compendium of reality. Time dilation exists. Time is universal yet transient, and depending on which frame of reference you are currently on it has deferring values. The perception of time is more important than all this though, if you perceive an hour as 5 minutes, the the hour may have happened but for you it's been 5 minutes, it's a form of solipsism as the eventual loss of information and seemingly shrinkage of time at will affects our perception of reality as well. It ain't all physics.
Matter is different as it is mostly intransigent of our perception of it, a stone won't move irregardless if we're staring or not staring at it. Differing levels of knowledge and physical prowess will lead you to possible assumptions you could make on matter based on knowledge still diffuse about whichever object you're describing but that in no way alters the reality of the material object nor its nature, which is not the same with time. Hypothetically where you're seeing the sun right now is where it was a minute ago, and where you're seeing the moon it is where it was 6 seconds ago but that's merely because of how long it takes for that information to get to us. You perceive it as now as it is what currently conforms your reality, and you cannot see beyond what time allows.
Cogito ergo sum, my friend. Time is a property of reality, therefore existence, therefore dependent solely on you now and all that you may see as real. Of course, if you were perceive time as nonexistent or to be standing still you would be most likely dead, or just in deep coma, as it is your environment hints you directly to some sort of notion of time. To understand this better, ask yourself this question, if the universe were to not exist, and you would to perceive everything as just a big void, would time still exist?
[QUOTE=0xDev;33193523]What is your point here?
How am I dismissing things in the world?
How does your argument even suggest time isn't real?[/QUOTE]
Nice way to take things out of context.
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