• Battlefield Premium in a nutshell
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Good thing I didn't buy it yet!
[QUOTE=The DooD;36213828]What the hell is Battlefield Premium?[/QUOTE] Call of Duty ELITE. You'll just have to accept it, DICE and EA are caving.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36216245]People have found ways to block certain groups of players from their servers in the past. And guess what? Only the shitty servers did it! So the only servers blocking you from playing because you aren't premium aren't servers worth playing in the first place. You would be paying around, or more than the cost of premium if you were to buy the expansions separately (as long as you don't own any or just BTK), so why not buy Premium and get some free cosmetic shit? You were going to buy them anyway right? That's the idea behind premium, not so much the free shit they throw in, but the pre-purchasing of expansions. The extras are just incentive. It's hardly idiotic, it's actually quite a good deal for a one off payment considering the expansions will cost more anyway by themselves. And you still haven't told me what these "real" advantages premium provides are. Queue skipping is hardly an advantage when queues aren't a problem on pretty much all the servers out there (plus you can just, I dunno, browse the fucking Internet while you wait to play? BattleLog works like it does for a reason, so you don't have to start at a fucking loading screen).[/QUOTE] Yeah great but why EA even considered the server thing ? they could have, you know, never fucking added it at all. So let me put it like this: I'm not going to buy all the expansions, i can save money that way, and i don't fucking know how most of them are! so they had this great idea: what about making a big, retarded, flashing "BUY ME" sign that constantly shits on everyone who doesn't have this piece of crap ? maybe they'll be stupid enough to buy it now, right ? Let's promise all kinds of shit, strap a PREMIUM on their names so they feel special while everyone else is intimidated by the big, golden letters, make it so they can skip lines straight to their very favorite METRO 64 servers, and so on, hopefully that sucker will buy it now. It's not like Battlefield 3 isn't a cheap korean MMORPG or anything like that. Because a simple Pre-order for cheaper with a week of early access and maybe a cammo is not enough, we [i]have[/i] to go full retard on this one.
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;36216540]I'm not going to buy all the expansions, i can save money that way, and i don't fucking know how most of them are! so they had this great idea: what about making a big, retarded, flashing "BUY ME" sign that constantly shits on everyone who doesn't have this piece of crap ? maybe they'll be stupid enough to buy it now, right ? Let's promise all kinds of shit, strap a PREMIUM on their names so they feel special while everyone else is intimidated by the big, golden letters, make it so they can skip lines straight to their very favorite METRO 64 servers, and so on, hopefully that sucker will buy it now. It's not like Battlefield 3 isn't a cheap korean MMORPG or anything like that. Because a simple Pre-order for cheaper with a week of early access and maybe a cammo is not enough, we [i]have[/i] to go full retard on this one.[/QUOTE] What the fuck am I meant to decipher from this retarded babbling? You're not going to buy the expansions, okay that does save money, it means you loose access to some content, but whatever, your choice. They advertised BTK in the same way, with a banner, sidebar and background for BattleLog all pretty much screaming "BUY ME", but even stupid people didn't buy it if they didn't want it. All you're telling me right now is you can't control your spending when faced with advertising. Promise shit? Fuck no, they are straight up [B]giving[/B] you shit. You get the premium tag just to differentiate between accounts, not to encourage sales or anything. Or intimidate. Or whatever fucking retarded reasoning you are using as the premium tag being bad. In what way did they go full retard? Again, you haven't explained this. You go on and on about how Premium is retarded, yet never provide a coherent, sensible reason as to why it is. In short, you are impossible to argue or debate with. And really should stop posting.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36216609]What the fuck am I meant to decipher from this retarded babbling? You're not going to buy the expansions, okay that does save money, it means you loose access to some content, but whatever, your choice. They advertised BTK in the same way, with a banner, sidebar and background for BattleLog all pretty much screaming "BUY ME", but even stupid people didn't buy it if they didn't want it. All you're telling me right now is you can't control your spending when faced with advertising. Promise shit? Fuck no, they are straight up [B]giving[/B] you shit. You get the premium tag just to differentiate between accounts, not to encourage sales or anything. Or intimidate. Or whatever fucking retarded reasoning you are using as the premium tag being bad. In what way did they go full retard? Again, you haven't explained this. You go on and on about how Premium is retarded, yet never provide a coherent, sensible reason as to why it is. In short, you are impossible to argue or debate with. And really should stop posting.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously comparing B2K with this ? B2K gave you a small square on your profile and a notification when you bought it, then it gave you the content, that's all, fair and square. While PREMIUM is giving you a multitude of bullshit features, turns you into a fucking mobile advertisement man in-game, yeah, sure, the two are exactly the same, it's disgusting marketing to justify the blind purchase of the DLC, do i have to put it on big bold letters for you ? it's as simple as that. I mean fuck, they are selling premium accounts in a bought game, that alone IS bad enough, which other game has that again ? oh yeah, right, TF2, the free hat dressup first person shooter, and it's not even close to this.
I like how the idiots are the only ones arguing about premium's worth. No one is telling you to buy it, so don't judge the people that do. It is optional, but you save $25 buy buying all the DLC for $50 and get some free aesthetic shit to show off in game if you like that stuff. You people like to make mountains out of molehills and it is absolutely pathetic.
[QUOTE=Karahaut;36216892]I like how the idiots are the only ones arguing about premium's worth. No one is telling you to buy it, so don't judge the people that do. It is optional, but you save $25 buy buying all the DLC for $50 and get some free aesthetic shit to show off in game if you like that stuff. You people like to make mountains out of molehills and it is absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE] That's awesome but i don't want all the damn DLC, and all i'm asking for is that they don't turn the game into Battlefield Online. Enjoy all that exclusivity by the way.
I'm not seeing the problem here. If you don't like Battlefield then it doesn't matter because you wouldn't be interested anyway. If you do like Battlefield this is a pretty good deal as far as content and extras is concerned.
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;36216950]That's awesome but i don't want all the damn DLC, and all i'm asking for is that they don't turn the game into Battlefield Online. Enjoy all that exclusivity by the way.[/QUOTE] They aren't turning into a god damn pay to win game. Premium is literally just a way of giving players who put some faith in DICE access to shit they were going to buy and shit to say "hey, I paid money!". It doesn't affect the fucking game at all outside of your strange delusions where it makes premium users 50ft. supermen. The advertising is going to be in your face huge, because EA are quite an aggressive advertiser. Just ignore the damn things, you shouldn't be spending enough time on BattleLog for it to piss you off, you should be browsing the Internet, or using chat stuff to talk to people while the game loads, not staring at BattleLogs adverts.
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;36216950]That's awesome but i don't want all the damn DLC, and all i'm asking for is that they don't turn the game into Battlefield Online. Enjoy all that exclusivity by the way.[/QUOTE] Then don't buy all the fucking DLC. Buy the ones you want, or don't buy them at all. We don't care. [editline]5th June 2012[/editline] And thanks, I will enjoy it.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;36216421]Call of Duty ELITE.[/QUOTE] Haha yeah, I remember when DICE shit on MW3 constantly leading up to release, poking fun at the fact that Battlefield will have free DLC like Back 2 Karkand available for everyone. I guess EA saw the kind of numbers generated by Elite and called the DICE boys up to make a new deal.
[QUOTE=Karahaut;36216983]Then don't buy all the fucking DLC. Buy the ones you want, or don't buy them at all. We don't care. [editline]5th June 2012[/editline] And thanks, I will enjoy it.[/QUOTE] That's some impressive half-reading skills, it's like the whole point of the post didn't even exist.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;36216998]Haha yeah, I remember when DICE shit on MW3 constantly leading up to release, poking fun at the fact that Battlefield will have free DLC like Back 2 Karkand available for everyone. I guess EA saw the kind of numbers generated by Elite and called the DICE boys up to make a new deal.[/QUOTE] I already regret buying ELITE. Only maybe 2 of the maps are worth my time and money. I'm not gonna pay $50 or whatever for BF3 Premium. I've been saying this from the beginning, they should sell maps separately. Maybe I don't want those other 500 maps. Maybe I just want one, so why the hell do I have to pay for a "pack" of them?! I don't see it happening anytime soon though, seeing how well these things sell anyway.
Whatever happened to actual expansion packs?
[QUOTE=don818;36216264]So, I take it none of you guys are buying any of the DLC for BF3?[/QUOTE] I probably will be. Though it is a ripoff and shit like this did used to be free. There's no changing that now, and Karkand was pretty fucking fun. So I am hoping this is equally as fun.
[QUOTE=Clavus;36214089]If you do the math, Battlefield Premium really isn't that bad of a deal. There are a lot of kneejerk reactions that go "EA IS MILKING US" while you're getting 20 maps (assuming they keep up the 4 maps per DLC pack), a ton of new weapons, new vehicles and other little gizmos over the course of a year for those 50 bucks.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry. I do not own a console. Just a PC. I remember when all the DLC's (maps, weapons, etc) all came for free. When developers would give us tools to mod their games to build a large(r) community. Instead now: "Sorry you are to dumb to understand out tools" - "Modding/mapping is not allowed" - "You can not host your own server unless you buy from us" - "Buy this DLC for more $$$ that includes 4 new maps lots of new guns and more vehicles" I vote with my wallet, no? So, guess what when a DLC came out for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and that the game didn't have any tools for the community. I knew that EA would drive DICE and Battlefield 3 to the ground. I didn't buy Battlefield 3 because of the DLC that came out a few weeks later (or was it days?). I also didn't buy Battlefield 3 because of Origin but that is because I didn't like the service and their user agreements. Now I know 100% that I Peepin will never buy Battlefield 3. OH and to answer why everyone is saying "EA IS MILKING US".. Well think about it this way.. People purchased this game BEFORE THE E3 ANNOUNCEMENT! So now they should either RE-BUY the game for $50 OR pay $15 (I assume) for each DLC. That is how EA is milking its user base. UNLESS they have some option to upgrade to premium for $10 or something.. Otherwise that deal is only good for new comers not the oldies who bought the game first.
[QUOTE=Clavus;36214089]If you do the math, Battlefield Premium really isn't that bad of a deal. There are a lot of kneejerk reactions that go "EA IS MILKING US" while you're getting 20 maps (assuming they keep up the 4 maps per DLC pack), a ton of new weapons, new vehicles and other little gizmos over the course of a year for those 50 bucks.[/QUOTE] While it does include quite a bit of content, $50 is a steep price considering many already paid $60 for the game. I think $30 or $40 would be a more reasonable price.
[QUOTE=peepin;36217670] I remember when all the DLC's (maps, weapons, etc) all came for free. [/QUOTE] Besides a free map included in the occassional patch, Battlefield in particular never really had free DLC. 1942 had two small expansions that were $20 seperately and included a few maps and vehicles Vietnam had a WW2 expansion that was pretty neat and actually free Battlefield 2 had a $30 expansion and two or three $15 Booster Packs 2142 had a single booster pack Bad Company 1 got the conquest mode for free, then a paid map pack after Bad Company 2 had free DLC through it's life, with the caveat being that almost all of it except one map pack were retooled versions of existing maps Battlefield 3 is returning to the Battlefield 2 system of releasing themed mini-expansion boosters with half the content and half the price. I don't particularly like Battlefield 3 specifically, but I'm a huge fan of the Battlefield series so I know my shit. Paid post release content has been a running thing for awhile now.
Times change and people need money. The past is in the past now no matter how you look at it. I don't like it either but the reality is that long time running companies just want more money. Your complaining and paragraphs of text do nothing because for the one person that doesn't buy it, 10, 100, 1,000 and even 100,000 people will buy what you didn't want. Only a few companies release their expansions/services for free or at low discount prices. In the end, you either buy it or you don't.
i wonder how many people instantly hate on battlefield premium without even knowing what it does think of it as a DLC pack that saves you money (with a few extra treats for your BF3 account), nothing wrong with that
[QUOTE=redback3;36214484]ya know, stuff that should've ALREADY BEEN IN THE FUCKING GAME[/QUOTE] Half Life 2 Episode 1 and 2 should have been in Half Life 2. [editline]5th June 2012[/editline] also what do you do when people get bored of your game? release a new one, or dlc?
honestly i don't see how people can even complain about something that gives you all of the DLCs for a lower price than buying them seperately. for someone who was going to get them all anyways, that alone is good enough for me. the extra "exclusive" 2X EXP weekends and such are just a bonus on top of getting all the DLCs for cheaper.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36217572]I probably will be. Though it is a ripoff and shit like this did used to be free. There's no changing that now, and Karkand was pretty fucking fun. So I am hoping this is equally as fun.[/QUOTE] What shit like this used to be free?
Let's compare Battlefield 2 special forces and Battlefield premium Special forces: 8 maps 6 new factions (mainly just reskins, but if you want to you can count the SAS and Spetsnaz as unique since they had to record new lines) 8 vehicles 7 new weapons 6 new pieces of equipment Price: $40 premium: At least 12 new maps (not sure if Aftermath or Endgame add more multiplayer stuff. Eight if you don't count back to karkand) At least 3 new game modes (2 if you don't count back to karkand/don't count conquest domination as a new game mode. Not sure if aftermath or endgame add any more.) 20 weapons 10 vehicles New customization (weapon, soldier camos, dog tags) Special events Server queue skipping (although I haven't seen a server queue since last October but whatever) Price: $50 Honestly if you just look at the numbers, Battlefield Premium is pretty much just an expansion pack, but with the content coming over a period of 9 months or so. The only difference is that you can pick and choose what you want from that to an extent (by just buying certain parts of it (back to karkand, close quarters, armored kill, etc.) Its just that they called it a "premium service" and game consumers nowadays seem to like to bitch about everything. I bet if they just called it an expansion pack, with the ability to pick what you want via smaller dlc sets, there'd be a lot less backlash.
[QUOTE=peepin;36217670]I'm sorry. I do not own a console. Just a PC. I remember when all the DLC's (maps, weapons, etc) all came for free. [/QUOTE] So you want the devs to work for free just because you want some new maps and weapons? This is why people think gamers are entitled. Sure its lovely when they do release DLC type updates for free, but excepting it and complaining when you don't is pure arrogance. You pay for everything on the disk bug and exploit free. Nothing more.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;36224983]You pay for everything on the disk bug and exploit free. Nothing more.[/QUOTE] Not even that. You pay for what the license lets you use. Not all the content on discs is part of the license.
[QUOTE=markfu;36224134]Let's compare Battlefield 2 special forces and Battlefield premium Special forces: 8 maps 6 new factions (mainly just reskins, but if you want to you can count the SAS and Spetsnaz as unique since they had to record new lines) 8 vehicles 7 new weapons 6 new pieces of equipment Price: $40 premium: At least 12 new maps (not sure if Aftermath or Endgame add more multiplayer stuff. Eight if you don't count back to karkand) At least 3 new game modes (2 if you don't count back to karkand/don't count conquest domination as a new game mode. Not sure if aftermath or endgame add any more.) 20 weapons 10 vehicles New customization (weapon, soldier camos, dog tags) Special events Server queue skipping (although I haven't seen a server queue since last October but whatever) Price: $50 Honestly if you just look at the numbers, Battlefield Premium is pretty much just an expansion pack, but with the content coming over a period of 9 months or so. The only difference is that you can pick and choose what you want from that to an extent (by just buying certain parts of it (back to karkand, close quarters, armored kill, etc.) Its just that they called it a "premium service" and game consumers nowadays seem to like to bitch about everything. I bet if they just called it an expansion pack, with the ability to pick what you want via smaller dlc sets, there'd be a lot less backlash.[/QUOTE] It really would have been better to call it an expansion, because that's what it really is.
Also, I think that "20 new guns" thing is kinda just for now, as both B2K and CQ add a total of 20 guns. I doubt that the next three will not have weapons.
I guess I'm just tired but can someone explain what the video represents exactly?
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