Bernie Sanders: "White people don't know what it's like to be poor."
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;49888271]really slipping, had to correct you on that[/QUOTE]
Thanks man. I didn't say it everyone, RichyZ did. That's terrible a thing to say. Not wrong, but terrible.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888269]Oh come on, you don't have to use those funny buzzwords. [B]You can try disagreeing with his policies and stances on the issues, and more people would respect you for it.
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Whoa, insults, whoa. You guys are better than that, I obviously disagree with almost everything you guys say but there's no need to suggest I have mental issues.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888220]You really need to stop bringing up Trump, we get it you want free shit even if it's from a racist old man like Bernie.[/QUOTE]
worst gimmick ever.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888269]Oh come on, you don't have to use those funny buzzwords. You can try disagreeing with his policies and stances on the issues, and more people would respect you for it.
Whoa, insults, whoa. You guys are better than that, I obviously disagree with almost everything you guys say but there's no need to suggest I have mental issues.[/QUOTE]
So what I'm getting from your posts is. It's okay for you to insult people but no one else; it's okay for you to bring up Trump or Bernie in threads that have nothing to do with them, but no one else.
[QUOTE=kyle877;49888276]No buzzwords in there. Only facts that he has presented himself.
What's wrong with having mental issues?[/QUOTE]
racism, hate, xenophobia,
A lot of things, I don't see how having mental issues can be a good thing. Why do you think they are, are you trying to share that you have one?
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49888286]So what I'm getting from your posts is. It's okay for you to insult people but no one else; it's okay for you to bring up Trump or Bernie in threads that have nothing to do with them, but no one else.[/QUOTE]
All you need to know is I despise racists, especially when those racists are hellbent on destroying capitalism.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888294]racism, hate, xenophobia,
A lot of things, I don't see how having mental issues can be a good thing. Why do you think they are, are you trying to share that you have one?[/QUOTE]
Yes, racism, hate and xenophobia. Again, things he has shown in his own dialogue. It's not buzzwords, it's facts.
Some of my best friends have mental issues. Whether [I]I[/I] have them is irrelevant. This is about [I]you, friend.[/I]
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888294]All you need to know is I despise racists, especially when those racists are hellbent on destroying capitalism.[/QUOTE]
Then why in the holy fuck are you voting for one?
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49888304]Then why in the holy fuck are you voting for one?[/QUOTE]
Because he's trolling you hardcore
he's a /pol/ gimmick
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888294]
All you need to know is I despise racists, especially when those racists are hellbent on destroying capitalism.[/QUOTE]
How are you not a gimmick?
1) No one in the modern world of any significance is "Hellbent" on destroying capitalism. You are a reactionary child if you think anyone changing anything is an attempt at "Destruction".
2) you really don't despise racists, you just make excuses for them.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888294]racism, hate, xenophobia,
A lot of things, I don't see how having mental issues can be a good thing. Why do you think they are, are you trying to share that you have one?
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
All you need to know is I despise racists, especially when those racists are hellbent on destroying capitalism.[/QUOTE]
Are you going to respond to my explanation of why your argument for Bernie's racism is bullshit, or just continue on making epic patriotic zingers?
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49888311]Are you going to respond to my explanation of why your argument for Bernie's racism is bullshit, or just continue on making epic patriotic zingers?[/QUOTE]
No, Fat White Lump, Lurr, Wystan, they all ignore arguments to talk about their next "sick burn america is great" rhetoric attempt.
[QUOTE=kyle877;49888303]Yes, racism, hate and xenophobia. Again, things he has shown in his own dialogue. It's not buzzwords, it's facts.
Some of my best friends have mental issues. Whether [I]I[/I] have them is irrelevant. This is about [I]you, friend.[/I][/QUOTE]
Why would a racist employ thousands of minorities? The hate one is honestly just dumb, he only hates what has happened to our once great country. Why would a xenophobic man marry an immigrant twice? Ivana and Melania are not from the US. If he was so xenophobic he wouldn't go anywhere near them and definitely wouldn't marry them. Why would a xenophobic man want more people to come to the US and become legal citizens and make that whole process of becoming a legal citizen easier and shorter?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49888322]No, Fat White Lump, Lurr, Wystan, they all ignore arguments to talk about their next "sick burn america is great" rhetoric attempt.[/QUOTE]
Fat White Lump is clearly a gimmick but I think Wystan legitimately believes the things he says are right
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49888311]Are you going to respond to my explanation of why your argument for Bernie's racism is bullshit, or just continue on making epic patriotic zingers?[/QUOTE]
Can you link it again? If you haven't noticed I'm being attacked by 6+ of you guys right now.
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;49888335]Fat White Lump is clearly a gimmick but I think Wystan legitimately believes the things he says are right[/QUOTE]
Yeah, in 2009 I made an account on a Garry's Mod forum and I was waiting for Trump to run in 2016. Get real.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888332]Why would a racist employ thousands of minorities? The hate one is honestly just dumb, he only hates what has happened to our once great country. Why would a xenophobic man marry an immigrant twice? Ivana and Melania are not from the US. If he was so xenophobic he wouldn't go anywhere near them and definitely wouldn't marry them. Why would a xenophobic man want more people to come to the US and become legal citizens and make that whole process of becoming a legal citizen easier and shorter?[/QUOTE]
you're literally beyond a deluding yourself if you think marrying [B]white women of white heritages has anything to do with disproving racism[/b]
How do you honestly think that works
Explain it because your logic isn't self evident here
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888332]Why would a racist employ thousands of minorities? The hate one is honestly just dumb, he only hates what has happened to our once great country. Why would a xenophobic man marry an immigrant twice? Ivana and Melania are not from the US. If he was so xenophobic he wouldn't go anywhere near them and definitely wouldn't marry them. Why would a xenophobic man want more people to come to the US and become legal citizens and make that whole process of becoming a legal citizen easier and shorter?[/QUOTE]
I used to be friends with a neo-nazi who was incredibly racist, but he had relatives who were Mexican that he didn't hate.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;49888335]Fat White Lump is clearly a gimmick but I think Wystan legitimately believes the things he says are right[/QUOTE]
No they're all real, and they all really believe this shit
That's what makes it so scary
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888345]Can you link it again? If you haven't noticed I'm being attacked by 6+ of you guys right now.[/QUOTE]
yeah thats what happens when you post some stupid bullshit on a public message board.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888345]Yeah, in 2009 I made an account on a Garry's Mod forum and I was waiting for Trump to run in 2016.[/QUOTE]
So you are trolling? Either way, not very smart, friend :^)
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888345]Can you link it again? If you haven't noticed I'm being attacked by 6+ of you guys right now.
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
Yeah, in 2009 I made an account on a Garry's Mod forum and I was waiting for Trump to run in 2016. Get real.[/QUOTE]
Principle of charity dictates I take you to be rational, and so I will oblige you, this time, but you really need to slow down with the assertions if I am to take you as such, and not a troll.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49888248]And you are hinging your arguments on Bernie not identifying as white (Based on a nuanced arbitrary definition of whiteness: "WASP") and being actually oblivious to the existence of poor white people.
Let me explain to you why your argument is bullshit:
This is your argument:
Bernie said x ("When your white... you don't know what it's like to be poor"
If Bernie said x, that means that he believes y ("White people can't be poor").
If he believes y then that means he can't be white, because if he was white, he wouldn't believe y.
He isn't white because he doesn't meet the definition of whiteness "WASP".
"WASP" is a good definition of whiteness.
I deny your last claim, that "'WASP' is a good definition of whiteness", by looking to the definition itself.
"White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" is what "Whiteness" means. But the predicate white is used in the definition when it is supposed to be the thing defined. Therefore the distinction of WASP-Whiteness is false and so therefore too is your assertion that he is not white, and so too therefore your assertion that he believes y, or that he must believe y if he said x.
At this point all you have is that he said x. Which, frankly, is useless given the principle of charity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49888353]you're literally beyond a deluding yourself if you think marrying [B]white women of white heritages has anything to do with disproving racism[/b]
How do you honestly think that works
Explain it because your logic isn't self evident here[/QUOTE]
"Xenophobia is the fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange." Are you trying to say the United States, Czechoslovakia, and Slovenia are all the same?
Oh it's okay Fat lump
Just keep saying "I have too many people to respond to"
You don't give a shit, you weren't ever going to respond to the meaningful posts
I PM'd you problems with all your arguments after you PM'd ME, and you still won't respond, so clearly, if the arguments had any relevance to you, you'd be doing more than jumping on the lowest hanging fruit in the thread, [B]every time[/B]
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49888358]I used to be friends with a neo-nazi who was incredibly racist, but he had relatives who were Mexican that he didn't hate.[/QUOTE]
Some neo-nazi, huh? Sounds like he just wanted some group to identify with.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888366]"Xenophobia is the fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange." Are you trying to say the United States, Czechoslovakia, and Slovenia are all the same?[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to say that being of a european descent myself without actually being european in anyway, that there's no racial hatred going on there what so ever.
Do you have to reduce it down to absurdist levels for this to make sense for you or something?
I'll tell you this much, if you think you're a different race to the [B]white fucking forefathers that brought your ass over to the states some generations ago, then you have no idea what you're talking about[/B]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49888368]Oh it's okay Fat lump
Just keep saying "I have too many people to respond to"
You don't give a shit, you weren't ever going to respond to the meaningful posts
I PM'd you problems with all your arguments after you PM'd ME, and you still won't respond, so clearly, if the arguments had any relevance to you, you'd be doing more than jumping on the lowest hanging fruit in the thread, [B]every time[/B][/QUOTE]
But they are European, they were born in those countries and immigrated here.
You asked me why I support Trump, I told you why. You never said that you wanted a debate.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888371]Some neo-nazi, huh? Sounds like he just wanted some group to identify with.[/QUOTE]
More like racism isn't a uniform thing.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888371]Some neo-nazi, huh? Sounds like he just wanted some group to identify with.[/QUOTE]
Again with you jumping on fluff, and ignoring actual arguments only to no doubt say "BUT GUYS I'M OUT NUMBERED WAHHHH"
Well that was a retarded thing to say.
Aren't there like over 20 million whites on welfare?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888377]You asked me why I support Trump, I told you why. You never said that you wanted a debate.[/QUOTE]
I gave you reasons. You said [QUOTE]That’s all just my opinion, and I know you will probably have a very different one and that’s cool. It’s a forum, we’re supposed to talk even if our opinions are wildly different.[/QUOTE]
As if you were going to reply. Nope.
Clearly, I'm the misleading one.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49888389]I gave you reasons. You said
As if you were going to reply. Nope.
Clearly, I'm the misleading one.[/QUOTE]
I did not reply to you, how could I have said that if I didn't reply?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49888368]
I PM'd you problems with all your arguments after you PM'd ME, [B]and you still won't respond[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49888394]I did not reply to you, how could I have said that if I didn't reply?[/QUOTE]
Idk, it's in your only message to me. Should I post your message in it's entirety so you can cease calling me a liar or do you want to ignore the real post that Zen made a page back again, and again, just so you don't have to be made uncomfortable in your own head?
Question for you guys, what are you doing when Bernie has to drop because of this racist shit he spewed? Just not vote?
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