[QUOTE=bunguer;50726512]There's plenty of reasons to dislike contemporary art, stop with that crappy argument of "not understanding contemporary art".
There hasn't been a time in the past centuries where the technical prowess of an art piece has been so irrelevant as it happens now. Art has been redefined into this concept of something that evokes feelings and that has raised a tremendous amount of bullshit.
"A ceramic object that is intended as a subversive comment on the nature of beauty is more likely to fit the definition of contemporary art than one that is simply beautiful."
This current form fully depends on explanations and many artists simply resort to write a grandiose description of their literal shit.
As someone who takes interest in the technical skills of an artist (and this doesn't mean at all photorealism, many art styles require great technical skills without being photorealistic) this period of art is indeed a dark period.
Fortunately, there's plenty of great artists in the underground scene or working in the entertainment industry.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;50726641]I don't get it. He's just smashing and destroying artwork for six and a half minutes. Is the joke that he's acting like a fucking moron? Because "ha ha ha jokes on them I was only pretending to be retarded" is the dumbest joke ever made.
I'm serious, am I missing the point of the video?[/QUOTE]
its always sad to see people take a joke this seriously
[QUOTE=Mister_Jack;50727203]I don't think this video takes place in the south at all. He's the only one with a remotely southern accent. Seems more like the midwest or something to me.[/QUOTE]
[t]http://icrontic.com/images/fatcat/usa.jpg[/t]
but america doesn't have a west, just a south and north
I've always thought art couldn't be used for nothing but decoration
Therefore, a potted plant is art in my opinion
[QUOTE=gary spivey;50731376]I've always thought art couldn't be used for nothing but decoration
Therefore, a potted plant is art in my opinion[/QUOTE]
Are movies, tv shows, songs and video games not art?
great channel
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF59JAuQJf0[/media]
[QUOTE=Tobin;50731437]Are movies, tv shows, songs and video games not art?[/QUOTE]
That's entertainment, not the same thing as art as far as I'm concerned
Maybe if they were boring and pretty, they could be art, I don't fuckin' know
[QUOTE=gary spivey;50731646]That's entertainment, not the same thing as art as far as I'm concerned
Maybe if they were boring and pretty, they could be art, I don't fuckin' know[/QUOTE]
Dunno, art doesn't have to just be decorations and can be pretty entertaining. I like to browse art sites just to look at awesome pieces for fun
Mmmm homophobia.
Gay is Art
holy shit that part where he talks about womens views and experiences
what a guy
[QUOTE=gary spivey;50731646]That's entertainment, not the same thing as art as far as I'm concerned
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good thing you aren't fuckin concerned because mate they're the goddamn same
[QUOTE=xalener;50733108]good thing you aren't fuckin concerned because mate they're the goddamn same[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but being in a museum is way more boring than watching a movie, anybody would know that
[QUOTE=gary spivey;50733192]Maybe, but being in a museum is way more boring than watching a movie[/QUOTE]
this is entirely subjective though?
[QUOTE=J!NX;50727244]its always sad to see people take a joke this seriously
[t]http://icrontic.com/images/fatcat/usa.jpg[/t]
but america doesn't have a west, just a south and north[/QUOTE]
This map disregards the spacial anomaly wherein North Virginia is actually further north than Maryland.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50727244]its always sad to see people take a joke this seriously
[t]http://icrontic.com/images/fatcat/usa.jpg[/t]
but america doesn't have a west, just a south and north[/QUOTE]
Wow wtf we're nothing like that
[video]https://youtu.be/V4347ZE0NQM[/video]
[QUOTE=bunguer;50726691]Picasso is actually a good example of what I'm saying because he knew all the fundamentals before he tried to do something of his own - there's a lot of value and respect in that.
Most of the contemporary artists do not know the fundamentals, that's part of what makes contemporary art. The ability that anyone, without formal traditional traning, can produce art.
I don't think all art with no apparent technical skill is bad, but I dislike a movement that completely disregards the fundamentals and traditional art.
[editline]17th July 2016[/editline]
If you misread what I said, I suppose you can reach that conclusion but that's not what I support.
I feel like this movement has no respect for the fundamentals of traditional art. Exceptions always exist in an individual basis but when I glance at the movement as a whole I do think a lot of these renowned contemporary artists do not produce artwork that are worthy of their praise.
This is the movement that creates pieces that are so similar to trash that cleaners constantly put them there (e.g. [url]https://nypost.com/2015/10/27/modern-art-exhibit-mistaken-for-trash-and-thrown-away/[/url]) Yet, artists always support this type of reaction because, well. it is a reaction.
When every reaction enables the art, everything becomes support for the art piece, including the obvious lack of effort. Therefor a movement that supports this type of attitude is, in my opinion, a movement not worth supporting.[/QUOTE]
I used to think Contemporary art was all hokey, but I think a lot of people who are against it haven't experienced it in person and have only seen terrible examples. I'm workingg towards being an entertainment artist (Concept Art, and 3D on the side) and by no means am I incredibly interested in contemporary art. But after going to many art museums in NewYork, Glasgow, Melbourne, and being forced to take a course during my studies in Scotland I did find some value in the art.
Perhaps works such as Marcel Duchamp's Urinal are a bit shit in my opinion but I've got to experience a lot of cool works as well. Alot of them you have to go an see in person to appreciate them as well. A lot of them want to create a feeling that's impossible to experience by a painting or other traditional form of art.
I believe very much in having a foundation in traditional art, but I think it's pure elitism to ask an artist to work in a certain technique even though they may not be interested in those mediums. It's sort of like the music debate, where people insist you have Musical Theory training. There are so many awesome musical artists who never had that but they still create awesome and interesting things, I just don't think it's a necessity (Although for me personally I believe I as an artist should learn it).
I want to share this with my art friends, but I'm afraid they don't have as shitty of a sense of humor as me.
[QUOTE=omarfr;50735227]I used to think Contemporary art was all hokey, but I think a lot of people who are against it haven't experienced it in person and have only seen terrible examples. I'm workingg towards being an entertainment artist (Concept Art, and 3D on the side) and by no means am I incredibly interested in contemporary art. But after going to many art museums in NewYork, Glasgow, Melbourne, and being forced to take a course during my studies in Scotland I did find some value in the art.
Perhaps works such as Marcel Duchamp's Urinal are a bit shit in my opinion but I've got to experience a lot of cool works as well. Alot of them you have to go an see in person to appreciate them as well. A lot of them want to create a feeling that's impossible to experience by a painting or other traditional form of art.
I believe very much in having a foundation in traditional art, but I think it's pure elitism to ask an artist to work in a certain technique even though they may not be interested in those mediums. It's sort of like the music debate, where people insist you have Musical Theory training. There are so many awesome musical artists who never had that but they still create awesome and interesting things, I just don't think it's a necessity (Although for me personally I believe I as an artist should learn it).[/QUOTE]
That's a more developed view but let me use your music example.
If you can create music that harmonizes well and sounds correct, you actually produced music that inherently is inline with classical Musical Theory, you just can't name the key of your piece, or the notes, or the intervals etc but the music you created uses these concepts. (I even bet those artists you are thinking about play with modern tunings and not out-of-tune instruments aka a piece of musical theory)
Musical Theory gives you the power to name things that sound well and the reasons why.
The fundamentals of traditional art gives you the power to understand what you see so you can then build things that you don't, as Picasso did.
Finally, going back to your music example, the contemporary movement is to me as having the most relevant genre of music of this century being filled by non-musicians creating dissonant and out of tune music while having the critics praise their geniality.
Exceptions to the rule always exist but many well-known contemporary artists (the ones who also receive most of the money) are the ones I criticize the most.
[QUOTE=bunguer;50737699]Finally, going back to your music example, the contemporary movement is to me as having the most relevant genre of music of this century being filled by non-musicians creating dissonant and out of tune music while having the critics praise their geniality.
Exceptions to the rule always exist but many well-known contemporary artists (the ones who also receive most of the money) are the ones I criticize the most.[/QUOTE]
do you know for sure that those artists don't know the fundamentals, though? And with the music example it's more in line with the musicians who do stuff like noise music. which is a thing. And the most relevant genre of art in this century definitely isn't contemporary art, it's music, movies and regular old traditional art. Any artist could make money through traditional art commissions way more easily than doing performance art or doing installations in galleries.
And since a lot of contemporary art is installations and performance art the fundamentals don't really apply at all there. It's a completely different thing. You wouldn't have to know proper anatomy or color theory to write and perform a song, would you? But a song is still art.
This is 100% redneck, dying of laughter.
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