Berserk Warriors - Reveal - General

i really hope this game covers more than the golden age through to the end of the millennium falcon arc would be good

This trailer is like the first one but it teases a bit of the gameplay after it. [video=youtube;9TPBx5Dq-Jk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TPBx5Dq-Jk[/video]

oh fuck it looks rad

Just a little note, they don't have a steam logo at the end of that new trailer because they're still considering a pc release in japan. Steam release for western audiences is pretty much locked down.

I don't care if the story sucks, I just want to cut apostles as the black swordsman damn it

Where's the gore in that second trailer though? I want my Guts to bathe in blood, literally.

Didn't Tecmo Koei say they were working on a game based on a western IP some time after Hyrule Warriors' release?

killing trolls, means it will hopefully include shierke and berserker armour [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=IAmAnooB;50572744]Where's the gore in that second trailer though? I want my Guts to bathe in blood, literally.[/QUOTE] tecmo said the game probably won't be gory as they don't want to release cero-z games (japanese R rating)

[QUOTE=Primigenes;50572943]Looks like Hurk from Vindictus Which literally means he moves nothing like Guts. The PS2 Game honestly still has the best animation for Guts which reminds me of Miura's action scenes [video=youtube;cVzc-nX9T6w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVzc-nX9T6w[/video] Meanwhile that could just be any anime character with a giant sword. But hey look on the bright side. It didn't fail to meet the expectations of a musou game. Like the PS2 clip above reminds me hit for hit of the exact scene in the manga. As opposed to the video up above [t]http://i.imgur.com/qo3Qz3m.jpg[/t] Yeah actually even the movies got it right [video=youtube;akrIUNjt7zE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akrIUNjt7zE[/video] Whate the fuck Koei Techmo lol. If I want to play like that I'll literally just play Vindictus[/QUOTE] We've got one clip of supposed gameplay from one part of Guts' life. They've stated his fighting style changes at different stages during the game to help reinforce his change of circumstance/age. Not to mention I don't see how the PS2 game did it better when there's seemingly no weight to his swings and also the fact that you literally cannot discern a fighting style from static images in a manga. So basically wait until actual gameplay comes out before condemning it.

[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;50572959]killing trolls, means it will hopefully include shierke and berserker armour[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if the berserker armor was some sort of powerup or "rage mode" ability.

[url]http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/23/berserks-first-trailer-shows-guts-swing-giant-sword-plus-details-game/[/url] game will cover golden age through to the end of the millennium falcon arc

[QUOTE=Primigenes;50573155]Maybe thats because Guts literally swings the Dragonslayer as if it were weightless [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/19af8092b7084fcbc95df898e6b08226.png[/IMG] And in the movie video he does basically the same shit just not with Dragonslayer. [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/4045119ce9acc56c6d99b43f47002241.png[/IMG] The jist is that since Guts swings large swords since childhood he can swing Dragon Slayer incredibly fast He's cleaved shit with the sword with one hand before [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0EOFkYZUSow/TldkPJcYZaI/AAAAAAAAAgc/kcHJcajVtcs/s0/001.jpg[/IMG] Not to mention the real point is that Guts doesn't always do dramatic spins (At least when he's not going full Berserk with the armor and those are like entirely different). That spin shit is generic anime stuff you always see a guy with a heavy weapon do. Gut's has never fought like that [video=youtube;Qacgb2b8LVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qacgb2b8LVU[/video] And I'm condemning it because the only thing besides random Caska rape that I've seen is generic musou garbage from a studio that might as well be TellTale games. And yeah Gut's fighting style changes. You tend to expect that when he goes from Child, Teen, Ash from Evil Dead, Ash with demon armor, color blindness, broken bones, and graying hair. Doesn't mean the style they're portraying is accurate as opposed to generic big sword guy slashes take 2.[/QUOTE] Even if his style isn't completely accurate I wouldn't shoot down the dev entirely I mean did you play Samurai Warriors 4-II? It's probably the best evolution of Warriors combat to date not to mention the fact they aren't just using the usual Warriors format for this game. If you don't like Warriors games then I'm not sure why you'd expect to like anything they're doing and the point still stands, wait for actual gameplay before going off at it.

Also apparently Japan retains the sexual content uncensored, while America gets the gory content uncensored. So everyone's got something censored no matter what.

the combat in that ps2 game footage looks like shit. it doesn't look fun at all. at least this new one looks fun [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] by the way, guts absolutely DOES fight like that later on in the manga. and it just gets even more ridiculous once he's in the berserker armour. a video of an incredibly limited animation anime and a couple of stills from the manga does not mean anything???

[QUOTE=Primigenes;50573326]Lol fuck out of here Rusty. No he doesn't Guts is literally described as being faster than the human eye several times in the manga. He's never ever fought like a stereotypical giant sword character with slow swings [IMG]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/149324/3088275-2686629752-8_10_.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/06/19/b/read51c1d0aed8f26/img000047.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/09/03/b/read52262522ac3de/img000053.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/09/03/b/read52262522ac3de/img000054.png[/IMG] Also love how you mention the Berserk armor. [video=youtube;eVTtMMr-cj8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTtMMr-cj8[/video] Guts in the Berserk armor has dodged fucking lightning and he literally cartwheels from place to place. Do you honestly think slow exaggerated swinging like in that video is ridiculous when Guts is literally described as being fast as shit all the time? Which is the sole reason why he even fights like that in the PS2 video. You guys need to stop with your head canon. Honestly I'm starting to feel bad that I even brought it up. I'm just disappointed it isn't a polished version of the PS2 game PS2 videos are literally the most accurate representation of Gut's fighting style. It's never been an argument and its one of the reasons most people even want to play it[/QUOTE] Again, we've literally seen a snippet of supposed gameplay. Wait until the game is actually out and we can see more of it. The Berserk PS2 game is pretty low down on the list of good character action games even if it does get his swing speed right so I'm not sure it needs celebrating that much.

they are characters who are exaggerating dude, guts is still human [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] man, i'm lost. are you saying the new gameplay is too fast or too slow? [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] having read all the manga, watched all the anime and films, berserk warriors does it exactly like how i'd imagined.

wtf berserk warriors looks FASTER than the ps2 version from what you've just posted guts just holds his sword like it has actual weight to it, giving it a momentum. something that would make it really satisfying to use. but his strikes are just as fast if not faster. you're literally making up stuff to complain about [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] like, guts is super strong and used to big swords. he's fast, but he doesn't defy physics dude, haha. not until he gets into berserker armour anyway

[QUOTE=Rusty100;50573385]like, guts is super strong and used to big swords. he's fast, but he doesn't defy physics dude, haha. not until he gets into berserker armour anyway[/QUOTE] Well if the 100 man battle from the old anime being posted is anything to go by, when he was in the Band of the Hawk he could still deflect a gigantic ball and chain and shatter it with his oversized sword, combined with being able to deflect (most) of a volley of arrows. He definitely surpasses any normal human limits back when he was normal, it's just not outright superpowered ultrahuman badass.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;50573385]wtf berserk warriors looks FASTER than the ps2 version from what you've just posted guts just holds his sword like it has actual weight to it, giving it a momentum. something that would make it really satisfying to use. but his strikes are just as fast if not faster. you're literally making up stuff to complain about [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] like, guts is super strong and used to big swords. he's fast, [B]but he doesn't defy physics dude[/B], haha. not until he gets into berserker armour anyway[/QUOTE] That's just the thing, if we go from appearance he looks like he actually does. His speed, even with his massive as shit sword, [B]is more similar to Raiden's speed in Revengeance[/B] than the BS we see here.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50573459]That's just the thing, if we go from appearance he looks like he actually does. His speed, even with his massive as shit sword, [B]is more similar to Raiden's speed in Revengeance[/B] than the BS we see here.[/QUOTE] okay he does to an extent, but not the extent that Primigenes wants him to

[QUOTE=Rusty100;50573512]okay he does to an extent, but not the extent that Primigenes wants him to[/QUOTE] Actually he does to that extent even lol. He's right in saying that he's constantly described by others as being literally faster than they can see. Guts isn't the "big slow swing" archetype character.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50573529]Actually he does to that extent even lol. He's right in saying that he's constantly described by others as being literally faster than they can see. Guts isn't the "big slow swing" archetype character.[/QUOTE] people exaggerate, he's just the fastest man they've ever seen and yeah he's not a big slow swing type - which is why in the new game he doesn't do any big slow swings. they are very fast. there is just some added slowmo for trailer effect, and he handles the sword with momentum.

yee schierke and skull knight

i'd assume guts not swinging at lightspeed is for gameplay purposes, to balance the characters a bit better so guts isn't just the ultimate be-all-end-all character that he basically is in the manga

Another thing worth pointing out is even the "heaviest" characters in Warriors games end up being fast with their normal attacks. It's usually only the special attacks that have any wind-up or slower swing speed.

Seems the human enemies fly away like the average Musou but the trolls were having heads and arms flying around.

[QUOTE=Primigenes;50573623]Why are you shoving words in my mouth with your rusty hands? Stop developing strawmans and learn the art of actually talking to the people who are literally in the same thread as you to find out what they actually mean. Let me clarify this for you because maybe I was unclear What I personally like about the game, anime, and manga's way of depicting Guts fighting is how immediate each swing looks. Like if Guts were to slice an enemy down he'd just do it in that one sole speedy swing. And in the PS2 game and in the anime the effortlessness and weightlessness adds so much more to the persona Guts already has of him just being this exceptionally strong, fast, and skilled guy. Because thats exactly who he is He's this guy who went through all kind of shit to get to where he is currently lugging around a heavy weight on his back like its an easy thing to do. As opposed to the video where he has this wind up double spin move typical of a lot of other characters who use big weapons. And the weight thing just doesn't seem to fit Guts in my opinion. He is a man who wields a 400 pound sword and swings it with 1 arm almost half the time and still manages to cut most Demonic flesh let alone Human all the time even without the Berserk armor in a single swing. Not to mention the fact that there is no real dismemberment And no don't say that Gut's doing a typical Musou Dennys Grand Slam attack where all the enemies get blown into the background and then they lose their limbs is fine for a Berserk game. So what? It's the normal Musou style combat with dismemberment tacked on to the blow back Warframe's dismemberment is more satisfying then that. In Warframe you cut a mob with a sword and usually I cleave them in half. Hell the PS2 Berserk game is ninety percent Troll upper bodies flying and lower bodies plummeting to the ground. It's just a much more satisfying feel in general and even more satisfying when I play as a character who does that constantly [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F1diHl80M8o/TleVWY-XxEI/AAAAAAAABVo/zlgb17W_R2k/s0/013.jpg[/IMG] And I already came in a little disappointed because its a Musou games. They're like one step above phone games. The comparison to TellTale earlier wasn't even really related to quality. It's more related to how they have the potential to make a Musou/Telltale game for every IP known to man and its basically like shovelware. But I've already stated I was too quick to judge so I'll just patiently wait for it to come out. Like what do I really gain from this game being shit? Nothing, so I'll stop being a baby and wait patiently to see how it is.[/QUOTE] this is way too many words compaining about anime take a step back. it looks like a cool game and it looks darn accurate to me [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] "effortlessness and weightlessness" makes for terrible gameplay i don't want to feel like i'm swinging around a long stick. it would seriously blow (like i think that ps2 game looks) it's not the manga. it's a game adaptation. it can't be exactly the same, it has to play well and that said, he is still swinging that thing insanely fast. i dont see why you'd want weightless combat. when is that ever fun

I dont want to get involved in whatever the above discussion became, but generally attacks in action games feel way better if the developers give movements accelerations and windup time. Realistic phsyical limits dont apply to berserk but it doesnt mean physics dont exist in the world, and there's nothing to suggest a reasonable(taking into account guts crane tier strength) acceleration curve on guts swings doesnt exist, as it would with anything that moves. [video]https://youtu.be/y2vCko6V4pQ?t=289[/video] (at around 5 minutes in this video there's an explanation of animation easing, linking the time doesnt seem to work on embeds)

[QUOTE=EliteGuy;50506703]Just kidding it's coming to Steam!! [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cky_r4iXEAEaqxi.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Now they 'only' need to make it a good port with unlocked FPS...

[QUOTE=Rusty100;50573793]this is way too many words compaining about anime take a step back. it looks like a cool game and it looks darn accurate to me [editline]23rd June 2016[/editline] "effortlessness and weightlessness" makes for terrible gameplay i don't want to feel like i'm swinging around a long stick. it would seriously blow (like i think that ps2 game looks) it's not the manga. it's a game adaptation. it can't be exactly the same, it has to play well and that said, he is still swinging that thing insanely fast. i dont see why you'd want weightless combat. when is that ever fun[/QUOTE] MGR isn't fun? Raiden swings super fast, very little weight to the main combat, the game is still fun. Bayonetta, the combat is super fast and the game is still fun? Some of the most highly rated action games made have super fast swings and still manage to be very good games, the combat doesn't have to be slow with lots of weight to be fun, a game with huge sword, with fast combat could be made and would be fun. You can't just dismiss the whole idea based on fuck all.