Your dating "preferences" are discriminatory | Riley J. Dennis - General

:huh: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/P3jS0CC.png[/IMG] What was the point of telling us to "unlearn our prejudices" then

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51476311] No really who the fuck is being bigoted, what are you talking about.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SnakeHead;51475665]I think that's a man, man.[/QUOTE] damn... that was like the least hard thing in the world if you're looking for the joke at a trans persons expense... [QUOTE=Cmx;51476054]My preference for a woman is to not have a 5oclock shadow[/QUOTE] the obvious interpretation is "this mtf still looks like a guy and thats funny" but i'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt if thats really not what he meant

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51476349]I have never consented to people making fun of me, yet it happened, no one came to my defense, no one helped, yet as soon as a person isn't a white male, it's about consent? Please.[/QUOTE] You're taking this too literally with the consent thing. I'm not looking for people to fill out waivers on consenting to being made fun of, i'm talking about treading the line between comedy and flat out bullying. Do you think that making mean-spirited jokes at some kid who clearly doesnt appreciate them repeatedly despite him telling you to stop is just harmless comedy? That's the line that I think needs to be examined and walked upon. Is making a joke at the expense of your friend ok? Well yeah obviously, he's your bud and you sort of consent to stuff like that under those pretenses, and if you dont feel comfortable with how far they take it then you can tell them to dial it back a bit and they'll be good. Is having that level of respect for your common man really too much to ask?

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476367]You're taking this too literally with the consent thing. I'm not looking for people to fill out waivers on consenting to being made fun of, i'm talking about treading the line between comedy and flat out bullying. Do you think that making mean-spirited jokes at some kid who clearly doesnt appreciate them repeatedly despite him telling you to stop is just harmless comedy, or is it bullying?[/QUOTE] Considering how intensely I've been bullied in my life, I'd say there's a difference between jokes and bullying. How can you even define a joke, and bullying? Like, can you, as the person making this argument, define that line and where it would be? But at the end of the day, even the most mild joke is at someones expense, if they're offended by said mild joke, what is the answer? Get rid of humour, or live with the fact someones feelings are hurt? My feelings have been hurt constantly, and I have never once had a "defender" like all these people do. I have turned out, a matter of factly, better person for having suffered through that. I am more empathetic, and understanding of people in similar circumstances, I have thick skin that's very hard to penetrate as an adult, and I have a good understanding of how to interact with people based on how I'd like to not be treated. So at the end of the day, I don't know what the "fine line" would be, I just know as a former victim of bullying, you can take offense, genuine, serious painful offense, from anything. And the world can't, and frankly, shouldn't cater to that all the time.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476367]You're taking this too literally with the consent thing. I'm not looking for people to fill out waivers on consenting to being made fun of, i'm talking about treading the line between comedy and flat out bullying. Do you think that making mean-spirited jokes at some kid who clearly doesnt appreciate them repeatedly despite him telling you to stop is just harmless comedy? That's the line that I think needs to be examined and walked upon. Is making a joke at the expense of your friend ok? Well yeah obviously, he's your bud and you sort of consent to stuff like that under those pretenses, and if you dont feel comfortable with how far they take it then you can tell them to dial it back a bit and they'll be good. Is having that level of respect for your common man really too much to ask?[/QUOTE] Duck, this is internet. No one is attacking personally the transgender in the video. It would be different if guys would start to comment to his video or start private messaging him/her something like "fucking transvestite shit". Dont care about the provokes and learn to laugh. Dont take it too personally.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51476405]Considering how intensely I've been bullied in my life, I'd say there's a difference between jokes and bullying. How can you even define a joke, and bullying? Like, can you, as the person making this argument, define that line and where it would be? But at the end of the day, even the most mild joke is at someones expense, if they're offended by said mild joke, what is the answer? Get rid of humour, or live with the fact someones feelings are hurt? My feelings have been hurt constantly, and I have never once had a "defender" like all these people do. I have turned out, a matter of factly, better person for having suffered through that. I am more empathetic, and understanding of people in similar circumstances, I have thick skin that's very hard to penetrate as an adult, and I have a good understanding of how to interact with people based on how I'd like to not be treated. So at the end of the day, I don't know what the "fine line" would be, I just know as a former victim of bullying, you can take offense, genuine, serious painful offense, from anything. And the world can't, and frankly, shouldn't cater to that all the time.[/QUOTE] I've also been at the expense of a ton of bullying in terms of these "jokes" that honestly I didnt appreciate and I sure as hell wont say "made me a better person". Sure I have thicker skin and I'm more empathetic like you, but I sure as fuck dont think back on that time of my life fondly or particularly appreciate it for happening. If I could go back and get rid of that particular part of my life I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure that you can identify with that particular kind of mean-spirited "joke" at your expense that only makes you feel like shit and really isnt in good taste whatsoever. That's really where I draw the line.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476435]I've also been at the expense of a ton of bullying in terms of these "jokes" that honestly I didnt appreciate and I sure as hell wont say "made me a better person". Sure I have thicker skin and I'm more empathetic like you, but I sure as fuck dont think back on that time of my life fondly or particularly appreciate it for happening. If I could go back and get rid of that particular part of my life I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure that you can identify with that particular kind of mean-spirited "joke" at your expense that only makes you feel like shit and really isnt in good taste whatsoever. That's really where I draw the line.[/QUOTE] i'd say if it has given you thicker skin and made you more empathetic it has made you a better person. you shouldn't look back on it with fondness, but you also shouldn't dwell on it.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476435]I've also been at the expense of a ton of bullying in terms of these "jokes" that honestly I didnt appreciate and I sure as hell wont say "made me a better person". Sure I have thicker skin and I'm more empathetic like you, but I sure as fuck dont think back on that time of my life fondly or particularly appreciate it for happening. If I could go back and get rid of that particular part of my life I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure that you can identify with that particular kind of mean-spirited "joke" at your expense that only makes you feel like shit and really isnt in good taste whatsoever. That's really where I draw the line.[/QUOTE] While I don't look back on those times with any fondness what so ever, I wouldn't remove them. They define me. They helped create me. To remove those would be to change who I am. If I try and think about it deeply, and pick jokes that weren't "funny" to me, sure, I can draw the line easily, but that's a very subjectively informed view.

[QUOTE=Nastardo;51476414]Duck, this is internet. No one is attacking personally the transgender in the video. It would be different if guys would start to comment to his video or start private messaging him/her something like "fucking transvestite shit". Dont care about the provokes and learn to laugh. Dont take it too personally.[/QUOTE] I personally don't really like the excuse of "it's just the internet". It reminds me of the whole "boys will be boys" thing. I think that the lack of empathy people have on the internet is something that we should seek to improve on, not accept as the status quo [editline]4th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51476468]i'd say if it has given you thicker skin and made you more empathetic it has made you a better person. you shouldn't look back on it with fondness, but you also shouldn't dwell on it.[/QUOTE] No yeah I see that, but I also wouldn't really wish it on anyone or think of it as something that people should experience. I can take something positive out of it, sure, but given the choice between being bullied and not being bullied the choice is pretty obvious yeah

[sp]I said no to all the questions.[/sp] To me the main difference between a 'partner' and a 'friend' is one is fuckable and the other isn't(to put it simply). Me refusing to date someone because of xyz doesn't mean I think they are less of a person or I'm racist/bigoted/whatever, it just means I wouldn't/couldn't dunk my dick in them. They can still be a great & close friend. I couldn't ever date a trans woman even If I was fooled by their appearance because they used to be a male(unfortunately the dick only sees ass n titties, making it [I]phallible[/I]). Even after they chop their dong off, had reconstruction surgeries, and took hormone pills for eternity, there is always some pattern that my brain recognizes and says "this is male" and like a switch my brain gets completely turned off from the person. If I suspect nothing, anyone truthfully telling me "I was born male" would trigger the same disillusion. I once had this fear of dating a woman that was once a man without me ever knowing, only to find out long after. But that was before I even knew what trans people usually looked like, and thankfully the technology & population isn't really there for this to be a rational fear.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476194]if jokes at the expense of trans people are your idea of funny then you probably dont have the best sense of humor[/QUOTE] Imagine being so thin skinned that you have to use your identity as a veil through which no insult shall pass. [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Duck M.;51476367]You're taking this too literally with the consent thing. I'm not looking for people to fill out waivers on consenting to being made fun of, i'm talking about treading the line between comedy and flat out bullying. Do you think that making mean-spirited jokes at some kid who clearly doesnt appreciate them repeatedly despite him telling you to stop is just harmless comedy? That's the line that I think needs to be examined and walked upon. Is making a joke at the expense of your friend ok? Well yeah obviously, he's your bud and you sort of consent to stuff like that under those pretenses, and if you dont feel comfortable with how far they take it then you can tell them to dial it back a bit and they'll be good. Is having that level of respect for your common man really too much to ask?[/QUOTE] Oh, and it's your job to tell us that we cannot deride someone who made something so terrible? [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Duck M.;51476563]I personally don't really like the excuse of "it's just the internet". It reminds me of the whole "boys will be boys" thing. I think that the lack of empathy people have on the internet is something that we should seek to improve on. [/QUOTE] It literally is not. Peopled do not lose empathy on the internet, it is simply a safe space (heh) to say whatever they TRULY want to, with a veil of anonymity. Furthermore, this woman will never, ever, ever see what we have posted here. Ever. Stop trying to be the moral police, it's real fucking annoying. You are not our moral authority, and you do not have any degree of control over what is said. [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51476292]I truly don't believe humour can exist without being at someones expense.[/QUOTE] [quote] [media] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAQrmB-bWZc[/url] [/media] [/quote]

It's idiots like these that make it so I'll never come out.

Oh hey, looks like I'm a bigot. Cool. I wouldn't date a fat person. I was about fifty pounds heavier at this time last year, and while I'd love to exaggerate how absolutely horrendously awful it was, I'll be fairly honest with everyone-- eating below my caloric TDEE and occasionally incline walking really isn't that hard. Getting to the point of obesity takes both an incredible amount of denial and/or an unimaginable amount of laziness, to the point that you realize "shit i'm in awful condition" and yet your immediate response isn't "well let's see if I can change this". I wouldn't date a transgender person. I find sexual compatibility to be an essential part of any relationship, and I personally don't think I could ever be anything remotely close to compatible with someone in possession of male genitalia. In addition, while it isn't pleasant to admit, I find the idea of them having transitioned to be a major turn-off. Lastly, just through personal experience, I find that transgender people tend to suffer from more than gender dysphoria at times, and I'm personally not empathetic or patient enough to deal with a lot of those issues. I wouldn't date a disabled person. At least, not seriously, anyway. I want my future to include my significant other, and I don't think I could live an enjoyable lifestyle [I]and[/I] do that at the same time with someone crippled and/or otherwise impaired to the point of being 'disabled'. And lastly, I wouldn't date a black person. I honestly just don't find black people attractive in the slightest, thus once again more or less making them sexually incompatible. And as I mentioned before, I don't think it'd be healthy to involve myself in a relationship in which one of my major requirements isn't met. Sorry. (not really lol) You're not entitled to my dick. Calm the fuck down, woman.

[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;51476808]damn she's gonna be real upset now she really wanted to sleep with a cool guy like you specifically[/QUOTE] it's okay. i don't blame her. she is one of many

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51476492]While I don't look back on those times with any fondness what so ever, I wouldn't remove them. They define me. They helped create me. To remove those would be to change who I am. If I try and think about it deeply, and pick jokes that weren't "funny" to me, sure, I can draw the line easily, but that's a very subjectively informed view.[/QUOTE] I definitely agree with your first point, well said btw, I can identify with that a lot However I think that you definitely can take it out of being subjective. It's all in intent really, between being mean-spirited and a good natured and friendly joke. I think lurker was right when he said [QUOTE=thelurker1234;51476342]I think context is a big thing. I mean hell I find jokes about suicide, depression, self harming etc. hilarious. But uh, I'm not going to post a meme about those on the obituary of someone who killed himself or even say that stuff to strangers. The 5 o'clock shadow thing was kind of just out of nowhere and pretty mean-spirited. And when you go to a stand-up comedy show, you expect that sort of stuff so it works out great. And fuck I'll say some pretty horrible stuff among friends (appropriate to the context, even disgusting transphobic shit with one of my trans friends, who self-deprecates as well) and we're all good because we're all on the same page and are taking part of it, just like if you're watching a comedian. Though this is also facepunch and we're known to be pretty ~crass~ here so Iunno.[/QUOTE] definitely summed up my thoughts on the issue at least to some extent outside of what I've already posted [editline]4th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Radical_ed;51476716] Peopled do not lose empathy on the internet [/QUOTE] You dont really believe this, do you?

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51476868]You dont really believe this, do you?[/QUOTE] Not him, but I feel like if you're a scumfuck with the veil of anonymity, then you're a scumfuck.

[QUOTE=KaptonJack;51476972]Not him, but I feel like if you're a scumfuck with the veil of anonymity, then you're a scumfuck.[/QUOTE] Well I agree with that, but being able to actually outwardly display those tendencies and attitudes online behind the veil of anonymity is what makes the difference. People will still read that and be affected by it, even if it isnt face-to-face where these guys wouldnt have the stones to say whatever they'd say online.

I'll only date those as tall or taller then me. I dunno why, but I can't find people a lot shorter then me in my preferences.

Lets apply the SJW logic to something absurd. You're a bigot if you refuse to date anyone that beats the living shit out of you. Why? Because fuck you. How dare you ridicule them for their lifestyle choices. You're a bigot, and you don't deserve anything else.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51477327]Lets apply the SJW logic to something absurd. You're a bigot if you refuse to date anyone that beats the living shit out of you. Why? Because fuck you. How dare you ridicule them for their lifestyle choices. You're a bigot, and you don't deserve anything else.[/QUOTE] You're right, this is indeed absurd The disconnect in logic here is that being fat, trans, or black isn't something inherently negative. Furthermore, being fat, trans, or black arent "lifestyle choices". Idk if its just me but this post doesnt make any sense and if you could clarify it maybe I would understand?

oh god, this video is a perfect example of this [t]https://scontent.fscl7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/15252764_1181556018598560_519808593021952228_o.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477375]You're right, this is indeed absurd The disconnect in logic here is that being fat, trans, or black isn't something inherently negative. Furthermore, being fat, trans, or black arent "lifestyle choices". Idk if its just me but this post doesnt make any sense and if you could clarify it maybe I would understand?[/QUOTE] being fat is a lifestyle choice. being trans is one too, albeit one that's justifiable, as opposed to just being morbidly obese

im not attracted to black people guess i'm racist

[QUOTE=Monkah;51477522]being fat is a lifestyle choice. being trans is one too, albeit one that's justifiable, as opposed to just being morbidly obese[/QUOTE] Both of those typically have more to do with mental health disorders rather than lifestyle choices

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477536]Both of those typically have more to do with mental health disorders rather than lifestyle choices[/QUOTE] being fat is not a mental disorder. [I]source: i used to be a fatty[/I]

[QUOTE=Monkah;51476800] I wouldn't date a transgender person. I find sexual compatibility to be an essential part of any relationship, and I personally don't think I could ever be anything remotely close to compatible with someone in possession of male genitalia. [/QUOTE] I understand where you are coming from but I am curious. What those Transgender people who have their genitals changed? So it matches the sex they identify with.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51477544]being fat is not a mental disorder. [I]source: i used to be a fatty[/I][/QUOTE] No of course it isnt, but mental health issues like depression, anxiety, and, of course, just flat out eating disorders can often be a large factor into becoming overweight. People often eat as a coping mechanism. Can being fat arise out of poor lifestyle choices? Yeah, but it isnt reasonable to assume that all people are fat by choice.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477536]Both of those typically have more to do with mental health disorders rather than lifestyle choices[/QUOTE] So does being an abuser. Most abusers have mental disorders. Some of them don't have cures either.

I like vaginas. I don't like people who tell how I am supposed to think. I don't like this person.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51477557]So does being an abuser. Most abusers have mental disorders. Some of them don't have cures either.[/QUOTE] You have to acknowledge the other part of my rebuttal though in that being black, trans, fat, etc. aren't inherently negative things that literally put you at risk of bodily harm