Your dating "preferences" are discriminatory | Riley J. Dennis - General

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477582]You have to acknowledge the other part of my rebuttal though in that being black, trans, fat, etc. aren't inherently negative things that literally put you at risk of bodily harm[/QUOTE] But being fat does put you at risk of bodily harm.

[QUOTE=Xonax;51477593]But being fat does put you at risk of bodily harm.[/QUOTE] "You" in this situation being the person dating the fat person, not the fat person themselves obv

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477598]"You" in this situation being the person dating the fat person, not the fat person themselves obv[/QUOTE] My bad.

trans? nope. black? yes. fat? not obese. disabled? depends. oh no i'm an evil alt right troll

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[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;51476808]damn she's gonna be real upset now she really wanted to sleep with a cool guy like you specifically[/QUOTE] this is literally what she is saying though. [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Duck M.;51477556]No of course it isnt, but mental health issues like depression, anxiety, and, of course, just flat out eating disorders can often be a large factor into becoming overweight. People often eat as a coping mechanism. Can being fat arise out of poor lifestyle choices? Yeah, but it isnt reasonable to assume that all people are fat by choice.[/QUOTE] Eating as a coping mechanism is a choice that results in you being a big fat fatass that takes up too much space, smells, and makes my healthcare cost more. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING can be justified. Doesn't mean I won't have my 2c to put in. [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Duck M.;51477598]"You" in this situation being the person dating the fat person, not the fat person themselves obv[/QUOTE] What if I think that fat people are just kind of fuckin gross?

Relationships can be a lifelong commitment, of course you would be careful about your choice [QUOTE=The Rifleman;51475304]Fuck you i'll date whoever I want. Sue me for wanting the best possible genes passed down for my children[/QUOTE] Saying shit like this is just weird, though.

[QUOTE=Zombinie;51475390]I'm white and want children that look like me. Fuck me, right?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=The Rifleman;51475304]Fuck you i'll date whoever I want. Sue me for wanting the best possible genes passed down for my children[/QUOTE] Imo this is the line when you're just a racist, because it sounds like its not based on aesthetics or anything, just that their genes are literally " Inferior " than Yours.

[QUOTE=MasterKade;51477776]Relationships can be a lifelong commitment, of course you would be careful about your choice Saying shit like this is just weird, though.[/QUOTE] Yeah that comment rubbed me the wrong way too lol, like is he saying that black/trans ppls genes are inferior and shouldnt be bred with? Like that comment is treading into gene purity territory

[QUOTE=duckmaster;51477781]Imo this is the line when you're just a racist, because it sounds like its not based on aesthetics or anything, [B]just that their genes are literally " Inferior " than Yours[/B].[/QUOTE] Clearly you missed the comic on the last page. All the left wing people require glasses. [QUOTE=oskramorir;51477492]oh god, this video is a perfect example of this [t]https://scontent.fscl7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/15252764_1181556018598560_519808593021952228_o.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thlis;51477796]Clearly you missed the comic on the last page. All the left wing people require glasses.[/QUOTE] I hate how they put the left on the right and the right on the left.

Has anyone noticed the trend with SJWs is kind of becoming more and more like the original sin? Like, there are all of these things out of your control, and they're all your fault, and you need to repent for them.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;51477781]you're just a racist, because it sounds like its not based on aesthetics or anything, just that their genes are literally " Inferior " than Yours.[/QUOTE] But my quote was quite specifically and solely about aesthetics? I never even mentioned genetics. I never said anyone's genes are inferior to anyone else's. However if those genes mean that my children look starkly unlike me, I would dislike that. Don't straw-man me.

This person really pisses me off, since she's very much the vocal minority of transgender people as far as I can tell. My experience has far and away been that trans people don't want to be special snowflakes, don't want to get involved in telling other people what to do, and just want to be normal. I'm a bisexual man who has been dating a transgender man for five years, through his transition on the third year. The difference I've seen between someone hiding who they are and someone who is actually living as they want to be is night and day. It only took me seeing how happy he is now to be okay with it. I just wish idiots like this person didn't claim to speak for the trans community, or anyone else for that matter, because most people end up seeing them and thinking they're representative of all trans people.

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51477844]This person really pisses me off, since she's very much the vocal minority of transgender people as far as I can tell. My experience has far and away been that trans people don't want to be special snowflakes, don't want to get involved in telling other people what to do, and just want to be normal. I'm a bisexual man who has been dating a transgender man for five years, through his transition on the third year. The difference I've seen between someone hiding who they are and someone who is actually living as they want to be is night and day. It only took me seeing how happy he is now to be okay with it. I just wish idiots like this person didn't claim to speak for the trans community, or anyone else for that matter, because most people end up seeing them and thinking they're representative of all trans people.[/QUOTE] This so fucking much. We just want to live a normal life, we don't want special treatment unless it helps us achieve our goal (See what I did there, treatment, HRT, hehe). As someone who is Transgender, once I am fully transitioned and have SRS, I will not make it a big deal, in fact, I probably will even make it seem like less of a deal than it actually was, because I will finally be me.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51477678] Eating as a coping mechanism is a choice that results in you being a [B]big fat fatass that takes up too much space, smells, and makes my healthcare cost more[/B] What if I think that fat people are just [B]kind of fuckin gross?[/B][/QUOTE] Seems like you have some weird personal vendetta against overweight people?

"Yeah I know you're gay and all Dave, but you should just date this nice woman instead, she likes you!" It's pathetic how gullible some people are for the same old bigotry dressed up in buzzwords and all in the name of some "progressive" cause.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477920]Seems like you have some weird personal vendetta against overweight people?[/QUOTE] Big fat fatass here, can confirm I take up too much space, smell, make healthcare cost more, and am really fuckin gross—pm me if you want pictures of my toenail that I haven't trimmed in three years

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477920]Seems like you have some weird personal vendetta against overweight people?[/QUOTE] I think you're over-analyzing. I hope that didn't feel like a punch to your chins.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;51477967]The problem with that however is the fact that people let these disorders and mental illnesses further cement themselves in the psyche and allow them get worse and worse as they are left unchecked for years. Movements like fat acceptance are not combating their depression, anxiety or eating disorders, they enable them and turn the problem outwards instead of inwards. They go against any credible psychologists advice and guidance. Instead of working on their flaws and problems, they normalize these problems and proclaim them to be a part of their personality and person. This sets an immeasurably dangerous message to children and those who are easily influenced that things which are bad for you, are actually good for you, as long as you feel good about it. It's okay to do whatever it is you want with your body and life choices. As long as you understand the risks and dangers involved in any decision you make. People who literally brush away these dangers and proclaim to be fat and healthy are not only flat out lying, they're convincing other people to lie to themselves too. For this reason, I dont believe that fat people should be ridiculed or bullied into submission, however I do believe that obesity should remain ostracized by society and do everything it can to encourage a person to lose weight, even at the expense of moderately hurt feelings from time to time.[/QUOTE] I'm definitely not in the camp that says stuff like "being fat is actually healthy" because thats factually false, so you're preaching to the choir here. I think that "fat acceptance" should be more about getting people the help for their mental health issues that lead to weight problems, promoting positive encouragement to improve their health instead of ridicule, and spreading awareness of health implications and ways to reach out for help if they want it. Like I'm not cool with normalizing being overweight and obese because it's flat out unhealthy, but I'm not going to call them a "big fat fatass" thats "kind of fuckin gross" because that's not really going to push anyone in the right direction. [editline]5th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=!LORD M!;51478014]I think you're over-analyzing. I hope that didn't feel like a punch to your chins.[/QUOTE] Bro I'm literally 5'11 and 130 I've got the body fat % of the grim reaper

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51478019]Bro I'm literally 5'11 and 130 I've got the body fat % of the grim reaper[/QUOTE] I don't belieb you. I can say I am 3 meters tall and built like Schwarzenegger. Why you get so threatened by those two comments.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;51478064]But what about anecdotal evidence of many people who were, actually, pushed in the right direction by being ridiculed for being fat? Once a person is ridiculed enough, sometimes they start critiquing themselves, and at that point they can make the conscious choice to get better, lose weight, and become happier.[/QUOTE] That's really not a healthy way of encouraging people to improve themselves and sorry but I dont take much stock in anecdotal evidence, I'll stick with legitimate research that says that negative reinforcement isn't an effective way of producing positive results

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51478060]I don't belieb you. I can say I am 3 meters tall and built like Schwarzenegger. Why you get so threatened by those two comments.[/QUOTE] i dont know where you got that hes threatened lol ur just trying to antagonize

[QUOTE=Marbalo;51478188]What is, then, a healthy way of encouraging people to improve themselves? Also has psychology finally been cracked? Do we now fully understand how the brain works and how different people respond to different forms of communication be it derogatory or complimentary? We dont know nearly enough about it yet, and the few studies that have been done are in no way applicable to case-specific things like social response to obesity. Keep in mind that there is a world of difference between background ridicule and personal bullying. I'm talking about obesity being taboo in society, in modelling, television, newspaper, common sentiment, etc. and that this actually helps people understand that they are not doing fine and are not normal, and it serves as a tool of self-help for people to realize by themselves that they need to change, and that this is not good for them. This is why I brought up that fat acceptance movement, because they are actively trying to fight against that. Against the core things which guide most people in life to better life decisions.[/QUOTE] A positive way of encouraging people to improve themselves is working with them on self-improvement, not against them. Praising the achievement of goals, encouraging self-betterment in a collected, open fashion, providing resources and information on how to pursue a healthy lifestyle, etc. [url]https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/family-affair/200809/rewards-are-better-punishment-here-s-why[/url] Most of the research on positive and negative feedback has been done in the context of parenting but it applies outside of that context as well. Researchers repeatedly find that negative reinforcement is simply not an effective way of encouraging positive behavior. We might not understand the deep and complex intricacies of the brain, but behavioral patterns and psychological responses have been pursued and documented for decades. Centuries, even. I think that "fat acceptance" could do with rebranding because on one hand, you shouldn't accept being overweight as the status quo and should seek to manage the issues, mental and physical, that lead to that state because it is, as we've already figured, unhealthy. However, there's nothing wrong with not discriminating against overweight people because of their condition. Promoting healthy lifestyle choices and showing that taking care of your body is important is a much better way forward than perpetuating a negative stigma against fat people.

To join this trainwreck: Yes I'd date a trans person. though I'm more inclined towards MtF, does that make me a bigot? Yes I'd date a black person, but I'd prefer if it were an africian american one, for the purpose of communication and I happen to find them generally more attractive than other POCs. Am I bigot for this? Yes I'd date a person with a disability, a genetic disability? No. I don't really see the point of this video. Yeah, there is a lot of discrimination in society but trying to tell people who to date and love is just such a stupid way of doing it. As for the talking about being overweight, fat etc. I'm overweight, and it's approaching being dangerous to my health. I've been gaining a lot of weight due to depression and such, though now as I get my life more and more on track I want to lose weight. The problem I have is that I grew up in a very healthy household, my mother was a trainaholic and my father always worked in a very physical manner, together with a lot of knownledge about food etc. Now here comes the catch: I've been overweight for a very long time, but not dangerous until now. And my parents and everyone around me has been concerned and voiced those concerns with all rights to do so. But now, every time they nag about it I become extremely apathetic, almost negative towards their concerns even if I don't want to be negative. I want to lose weight so I can live as long as I can, despite all my depressions I had, I love my life, my friends and family and the world and as I just said I want to be able to live as long as possible, that's why its so frustrating when I get so negative when getting nagged about a genuinely thing to be concerned about. I mean, I even lost my gallbladder due to my weight and depression-fueled diets. So no, I wouldn't date a person who's overweight to the point of endangering his or her's health, because I'm there myself and want to do something about it, and I want my significant other to just like myself be able to live as long as possible. Sorry for the rant-style of post but just as many others in the thread, this stirred up a lot of opinions within me.

[QUOTE=PelPix123;51477779]why dont you ask all the people who've dated me[/QUOTE] We don't have to, if you'll recall. [QUOTE] I don't really see the point of this video.[/QUOTE] The point of this video was to get you do to exactly what you did, except to do it in the comments section so as to gain attention and therefore give the stated opinion validity. Usually in these cases any kind of validity will do, but in this particular instance you can certainly bet there's specific group at google watching, waiting for reactions just like yours, so they can flag them.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51477375] being fat ... isn't something inherently negative[/QUOTE] wrong [QUOTE] being fat ... arent "lifestyle choices".[/QUOTE] wronger

[QUOTE=phygon;51478628]wrong wronger[/QUOTE] Funny how removing all of the context behind those statements and the rest of the larger conversation makes them sound like that huh

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51478651]Funny how removing all of the context behind those statements and the rest of the conversation that followed makes them sound like that huh[/QUOTE] There is no context to be had, you said that being fat isn't inherently negative or a lifestyle choice. It is, and it is. Being fat is an objectively bad thing.

[QUOTE=phygon;51478658]There is no context to be had, you said that being fat isn't inherently negative or a lifestyle choice. It is, and it is. Being fat is an objectively bad thing.[/QUOTE] The context is that we were quantifying it being "bad" in terms of dating quality and general attractiveness, not in terms of personal welfare. Looking at the comment I was responding to might help And I said it before, but it isnt necessarily a lifestyle choice (keyword here being choice) 100% of the time. Are you going to tell someone with binge eating disorder that they just need to clean up their lifestyle choices? It really isnt that simple in a lot of cases.