Proof of God: "The banana fits in your ..." - Atheist Nightmare - General

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717628]Are you smoking weed right now? Arguments can be civil, that's not the point at all. What you're talking about has nothing to do with the video. It only remotely relates to the topic of religion. When someone posts something about religion it does not give you free reign to cover the entire topic of religion. Just look at the crap you and Badal are posting right now. Agnosticism? Who cares, take it to a chat room. This is a forum where you present and discuss ideas [b]related to the OP[/b] not off-hand crap. I'll say what I said to him, are you smoking weed right now? Your sentence is simply false. The purpose of a forum is not to debate anything at any time. It must relate to the topic. It's like someone posting a thread specifically about cars and then going on back and forth for 3 pages about fucking motorcycles. [b]The thread is about cars not motorcycles[/b].[/QUOTE] Good to see you contributing to the topic as well.

But this is a religion thread and we are talking religion so oh my god ninja'd by 2 people

[QUOTE=Badal;25717514]Agnosticism is "I neither have a belief in a deity nor do I have a belief in the absence of such a deity." It's another debate altogether whether agnosticism is theistic or atheistic, although by pure definition it is neither.[/QUOTE] No, by definition agnosticism [B]is[/B] the belief that nobody can know whether or not god exists. It is [B]not[/B] a term you should be using to fencesit, since everyone is an atheist by default if you do not have a belief in one or more deities- even if you are unsure of your own beliefs. This is because atheism is not another belief altogether, but the absence of a belief. Agnosticism is not tied to any theological stance- it's merely a statement of knowledge.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25717667]If a forum cant go off into a tangent then we cant learn anything, every discussion branches off one way or another[/QUOTE] Again, false statement. You can learn a lot without going into a tangent. Not to mention, in this specific example, you haven't learned anything, you've just taken up a few pages with useless banter. Tangents are allowed if they go on for a [i]few[/i] posts. But not when they spiral wildly out of control. [QUOTE=Jaehead;25717685]But this is a religion thread and we are talking religion so oh my god ninja'd by 2 people[/QUOTE] See, this is what I'm talking about. Its [b]not[/b] a religion thread at all! It's a thread about a video that contains specific content about religion and mainly a joke. That does not invite you to go off on tangents about anything religious! It must be about the video or insights made about the video or in some way relate to the video.

[QUOTE=Savaril;25717690]No, by definition agnosticism [B]is[/B] the belief that nobody can know whether or not god exists. It is [B]not[/B] a term you should be using to fencesit, since everyone is an atheist by default if you do not have a belief in one or more deities- even if you are unsure of your own beliefs. This is because atheism is not another belief altogether, but the absence of a belief. Agnosticism is not tied to any theological stance- it's merely a statement of knowledge.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/agnostic[/url] Looks like we are both right, depending on which definition you use.

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717735]Again, false statement. You can learn a lot without going into a tangent. Not to mention, in this specific example, you haven't learned anything, you've just taken up a few pages with useless banter. Tangents are allowed if they go on for a [i]few[/i] posts. But not when they spiral wildly out of control.[/QUOTE] hey i learned things, in a normal discussion with friends the subjects changes over and over again because people go on tangents why cant internet conversations do the same, btw you just made another tangent

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717735]Again, false statement. You can learn a lot without going into a tangent. Not to mention, in this specific example, you haven't learned anything, you've just taken up a few pages with useless banter. Tangents are allowed if they go on for a [i]few[/i] posts. But not when they spiral wildly out of control. See, this is what I'm talking about. Its [b]not[/b] a religion thread at all! It's a thread about a video that contains specific content. That does not invite you to go off on tangents about anything religious![/QUOTE] You may see this as useless banter, but I have learned a great deal about agnostics in the last two pages. [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25717751]btw you just made another tangent[/QUOTE] [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] I believe the correct term is "report and move on" rather than jumping into the thread guns blazing about our idiocy.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25717751]hey i learned things, in a normal discussion with friends the subjects changes over and over again because people go on tangents why cant internet conversations do the same[/QUOTE] This is a forum, not a conversation between two people or a chat room. God you are seriously pissing me off. Think for one fucking nanosecond before you post would you? [QUOTE=Badal;25717758]You may see this as useless banter, but I have learned a great deal about agnostics in the last two pages. [/QUOTE] This thread, unfortunately for you, is not about agnostics. If you want to learn about agnostics. Try [url]www.google.com[/url], type in agnostics, and have a great time surfing the web and learning all sorts of cool facts about agnostics. [QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25717751]btw you just made another tangent[/QUOTE] Unfortunately I have to go off on a tangent to inform you that you're horribly off-topic and shitting on the thread. Not that you care since you're shitting on the thread. [QUOTE=Badal;25717758] I believe the correct term is "report and move on" rather than jumping into the thread guns blazing about our idiocy.[/QUOTE] Oh I reported you. I jumped in so other people would report you as well. But thanks for admitting that you are displaying a level of idiocy, that's very big of you.

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717819]This is a forum, not a conversation between two people or a chat room. God you are seriously pissing me off. Think for one fucking nanosecond before you post would you? This thread, unfortunately for you, is not about agnostics. If you want to learn about agnostics. Try [url]www.google.com[/url], type in agnostics, and have a great time surfing the web and learning all sorts of cool facts about agnostics. Unfortunately I have to go off on a tangent to inform you that you're horribly off-topic and shitting on the thread. Not that you care since you're shitting on the thread.[/QUOTE] if this thread did not go off on a tangent it would be all about how stupid the banana guy is, and that gets boring after a while dont you think, and because the main reason why hes saying this is because religion we are going to talk about the root

Ignore him. Let's get back on topic.

Mutex you get your wish cause im going to sleep now

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25717871]if this thread did not go off on a tangent it would be all about how stupid the banana guy is, and that gets boring after a while dont you think, and because the main reason why hes saying this is because religion we are going to talk about the root but dont worry im going to sleep now so good for you[/QUOTE] The thread can progress to whatever it wants. If you find a topic boring then go start a thread of your liking, you don't get to derail a thread for your amusement. And please get some sleep, because it seems like your brain went to bed way before you decided to.

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717944]The thread can progress to whatever it wants. If you find a topic boring then go start a thread of your liking, you don't get to derail a thread for your amusement. And please get some sleep, because it seems like your brain went to bed way before you decided to.[/QUOTE] haha the brain going to sleep one showed me. but really almost all threads change over time, so I dont see why your getting so upset but whatever

[QUOTE=Mutex;25717944]The thread can progress to whatever it wants. If you find a topic boring then go start a thread of your liking, you don't get to derail a thread for your amusement. And please get some sleep, because it seems like your brain went to bed way before you decided to.[/QUOTE] Good job Mutex. Half of this page is now you bitching at us for discussing religion in a religion thread. [img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/36efc1d2.gif[/img]

irony, he said he doesnt want this to go on a bad tangent but yet he started the worst one yet well whatever sleep for me

[QUOTE=Badal;25717991]Good job Mutex. Half of this page is now you bitching at us for discussing religion in a religion thread. [img_thumb]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/36efc1d2.gif[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Are you a troll or something? My half a page of telling you to shut up is well worth the 4 pages of you discussing off-topic crap. Not to mention the further posts you would have made if this discussion would resume normal course which is... well I don't know... in the next few pages we could be talking about dolphins and how they have souls too because they're intelligent animals.

[QUOTE=Badal;25715802]"Anything" would include religion. Because you know, it's anything.[/QUOTE] I'm on my iPhone now so I can't find the exact study, but it was proven that the average athiest knew more about relieon than the average believer.

[QUOTE=JethroTheCunt;25718140]I'm on my iPhone now so I can't find the exact study, but it was proven that the average athiest knew more about relieon than the average believer.[/QUOTE] I'm on my iPad right now so I can't find the exact study, but it was proven that the average person knows that posting unsited research is the same as posting nothing at all. Btw did you know pigs can fly? I can't find the data to prove it right now though. Also you're pretty much trolling. gtfo.

I got up out of bed just for you so I could find the study and copy a link <3 [url]http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=JethroTheCunt;25718300]I got up out of bed just for you so I could find the study and copy a link <3 [url]http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx[/url][/QUOTE] Congratulations. Your claim has been substantiated. Perhaps next time you will include the link the first time?

If you're interested in watching these kinds of videos, I can recommend a few Youtube users you should really watch. [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHT_dTDQbQ[/media] [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/media] [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/TheraminTrees[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZpJ7yUPwdU[/media] More of their videos can be found on their page.

QualiaSoup is awesome. Also, people were talking about agnosticism, he did a vid on that. 3:18 to 4:10 in this vid [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg [/URL]is about glorious leader and some other people in this thread.

Agnosticism is the only religious philosophy that makes sense, because you dont know and cant know if God exists, you can only believe or not believe [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] Or dont care

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;25718780]Agnosticism is the only religious philosophy that makes sense, because you dont know and cant know if God exists, you can only believe or not believe [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] Or dont care[/QUOTE] yea but the same goes for big foot, you are not 100% sure he is not real but you know the chances of it being real is low so you don't believe, that's how an atheist thinks

[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25683329]Nope, he seems like a wise and intelligent guy.[/QUOTE] He seems rather arrogant at times too but that's understandable when you have people like her calling in and saying the dumbest shit. [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Laserbeams;25718780]Or dont care[/QUOTE] Then why call it anything?

[QUOTE=GodKing;25732268]He seems rather arrogant at times too but that's understandable when you have people like her calling in and saying the dumbest shit. [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] Then why call it anything?[/QUOTE] Nothing is called nothing.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25731797]yea but the same goes for big foot, you are not 100% sure he is not real but you know the chances of it being real is low so you don't believe, that's how an atheist thinks[/QUOTE] But they dont have evidence of him not existing, so ironically the atheists who always talk about not believing in something unless they have evidence, believe that god doesn't exist without evidence

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;25740872]But they dont have evidence of him not existing, so ironically the atheists who always talk about not believing in something unless they have evidence, believe that god doesn't exist without evidence[/QUOTE] The total and complete absence of something is generally regarded as proof that it doesn't exist. Centuries ago, this argument held up, because we didn't know how the universe was created, or anything about how we evolved as a species. Nowadays, believing in god - which isn't bad, wrong, ignorant or stupid - is to play pretend.

[QUOTE=abigserve;25741831]The total and complete absence of something is generally regarded as proof that it doesn't exist. Centuries ago, this argument held up, because we didn't know how the universe was created, or anything about how we evolved as a species. Nowadays, believing in god - which isn't bad, wrong, ignorant or stupid - is to play pretend.[/QUOTE] The total, complete absence of something is not proof, it's something that demands proof

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;25740872]But they dont have evidence of him not existing, so ironically the atheists who always talk about not believing in something unless they have evidence, believe that god doesn't exist without evidence[/QUOTE] That's because you can't really disprove the existence of anything. What if I believed in a pink unicorn that floats through space, that had my name printed on its side? How would you go about disproving that? You can't. But you know it's ridiculous.