[QUOTE=BrawckX;35464201]Maybe its because I've been watching them for about 7 years... Oh lawd.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying Christianity is an underground religion because you've be worshiping for 7 years.
AKA they're not underground, and never were.
Personally I wan't more shit to hit the fan with the consoles and for things to go down the shitter. Things have gotten so bad with the console scene it can only get better. . . right? Stuffs got to collapse before the players can take back the reins of the industry they put money and time into.
I understand publishers trying to cut down on used game sales, because when big name companies sell lots of games and publishers don't see a cent that's just bullshit, but online passes are NOT the way to do it.
[QUOTE=BrawckX;35461288]Please, Keep them underground and don't release them to this tainted forum![/QUOTE]
Please get out, your like those people on somethingawful who freak out when "their" comedy gets leaked.
-Tudd Fudders
[QUOTE=Jackald;35481624]Increased production costs and the aforementioned issues with the consoles will lead to an increase in sequels and remakes, but nothing new and original, as publishers won't want to take a risk on the already precarious hardware (except for cheap motion control cash ins to appeal to super casual gamers, that is)
We've already seen this to an extent with this generation. It's not hard to notice the massive increase in the number of sequels and remakes and the reduction in new IPs (except for independent developers)
But since the licensing costs are supposedly set to go up for the next generation, we'll just see a reduction in indie devs.
If the rumors that they can't play pre-owned games are true, then this will destroy the video game renting market completely and, especially with the lack of demos these days, people will not be exposed to new IPs or new games.
Consider this:
A casual gamer buys, let's say, Splinter Cell pre-owned. They've never had any interest in that series, but the game's pre-owned for £5 so why not. They play it, love it, want the next one. The new splinter cell is coming out in a few weeks, so they pre-order it.
Without that mechanism in place, that person will likely never give Splinter Cell a try, and thus never take a risk on buying a brand new game they might not like.
Unless a demo comes out for it, but that's increasingly rare these days.
TL;DR
I predict more sequels, less innovation, and no risk taking whatsoever for the next generation.[/QUOTE]
That is, unless the community smartens up just a tad to see that they're being completely exploited and scammed. Honestly, though, at worst, I see it remaining mostly the same as it is for the next generation. Even big name publishers will have to take risks every once in a while, because people will catch on if they don't, and in the long-term, it can easily lead to the companies outright collapsing in on themselves. And hey, we can't really avoid big-name publishers being greedy fucks, even the well-established movie industry is going through the same kind of shit, with the only real big-name "masterpiece" to come out in the past few years being There Will Be Blood (There's probably more, but that's about all I can think of off the top of my head), and even those movies typically become more cult classic than blockbuster.
We are going through dark times with games, and we will need to take action if we don't want to sink into a routine of them just existing to exploit and scam naive people who couldn't give two shits what they buy, as long as it's fun on its own merits. But to think that we're even close to another video game crash is naive in and of itself, and incredibly sensationalist.
Besides, there's still a bit of light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak, as we've seen games like Deus Ex: Human Revolution get relatively high sales figures and great reception across the board, and word-of-mouth grows stonger with each passing day (Just look at how DA2's sales figures dropped as people were quickly informed of how poorly-written and designed it was. Seriously, GIS a chart of it or something, it's crazy). Even Fallout: New Vegas, despite getting some lukewarm reception (And ultimately dicking over Obsidian because they agreed to let an arbitrary number judge if they got a bonus or not, but let's not get into that, lest I burst into a pages-long nerd rage about it) ended up selling more copies than Fallout 3 last time I checked.
My point is that we still have companies that care enough to be innovative, despite all the money issues they may have. And even if we didn't have them, most companies will still need to take risks eventually, and people do catch on. The power behind the mechanical scores of paid "journalists" and masses of 13 year olds arguing over said scores is shrinking, and the general community is undeniably growing collectively smarter as time goes by. Granted, there are many bad ways this can go, and it is going ever so slowly, but it doesn't feel like we're not making any progress or anything of the sort, and we are most certainly not close to the industry crashing and burning as it did the first time.
[editline]April 8, 2012[/editline]
Jesus Christ I put way too much effort into typing that, especially considering that it's incredibly stupid and spergy anyways.
[QUOTE=BrawckX;35461288]Please, Keep them underground and don't release them to this tainted forum![/QUOTE]
Hipster
Haha, suck it, next-next gen consoles, I just bought a used ps2 and I'm having myself a great time with that hunk of awesome.
[QUOTE=BrawckX;35461288]Please, Keep them underground and don't release them to this tainted forum![/QUOTE]
You're way too late to complain about them no longer being underground.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35481585]I understand publishers trying to cut down on used game sales, because when big name companies sell lots of games and publishers don't see a cent that's just bullshit, but online passes are NOT the way to do it.[/QUOTE]
I've heard they are going to require an always on Internet connection to work which is bull.
So what, I can't play games if I just move into a place and can't afford internet costs fore a few weeks or just plain can't afford it >.>
[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;35514101]I've heard they are going to require an always on Internet connection to work which is bull.
So what, I can't play games if I just move into a place and can't afford internet costs fore a few weeks or just plain can't afford it >.>[/QUOTE]
They shouldn't be doing anything at all to stop it except lobby to make it illegal to sell used games without the publisher being compensated, problem solved, everyone happy, publishers make money, gamers get cheap games, gamestop is still fucking rich because they're damn near a monopoly.
If i had the ability to do so, i'd like to bring all three companys together(sony, microsoft, and nintendo) to create one console. Of course that would require all three company heads to not be total asshats to eachother, and the whole disc technology conflict between sony and nintendo back in the ninetys pretty much proved that to be impossible.
[QUOTE=luckycandy;35524508]If i had the ability to do so, i'd like to bring all three companys together(sony, microsoft, and nintendo) to create one console. Of course that would require all three company heads to not be total asshats to eachother, and the whole disc technology conflict between sony and nintendo back in the ninetys pretty much proved that to be impossible.[/QUOTE]
Part of what makes consoles great is the variety though a lot of gamers wouldn't want to lose that.
yeah eliminate competition from the console market that's a brilliant idea
I actually have not anything to look forward to...I remember waiting for half-life 2 , playstation 3 and other bullshit.Now it's the same old shit all the time
they forgot about the windows xp sticker on the front of that PC for the 1999 scenes lol
next generation of consoles is going to suck major ass which is why i'm sticking with my good ole PS2 and PC
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