Cop handles bitching and screaming girl and aftermath like a champ.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162562]these are the types of posts that i am specifically talking about.
[QUOTE=Crazy;43162383]That sounds pretty stupid in this particular case. All I saw was a rich daddys girl who couldn't afford to get arrested, because daddy would take her credit card away.
In other words: Let's make as big of a scene as possible, so that you can look like a victim.
Or something similar.[/QUOTE]
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It is possible (likely) that she threw a tantrum because she thought she can't be arrested or whatever, not because she was so scared that her brain went "fight or flight". But most importantly[B] it's not an excuse for resisting arrest in the beginning.[/B]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162562][QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;43162144]I'm sorry but I don't care who you are but if you break the law and get caught, you shouldn't expect to be able to try and escape or resist and not get laid out. Not how it works.
Dumb bitch.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
She's a dumb bitch because she resisted arrest in the beginning. If you break the law and get caught, you shouldn't expect to be able to try and escape or resist and not get laid out.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162562][QUOTE=Gwoodman;43161690]"You're choking me, I can't breathe"
*continues yelling*[/QUOTE]
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He's just making fun her being illogical. I don't see him calling her names for being hysterical.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162562]please note that i'm not even criticizing the cops or nuttin(isn't that a first?). i'm just saying that it is hard to blame her for screaming and being hysterical in the situation, whether she brought that situation upon herself or not. i doubt she is just trying to get attention.[/QUOTE]
NOBODY IS BLAMING HER FOR BEING HYSTERICAL. We're giving her shit for trying to resist arrest and escalating the situation to a point where [B]she has put herself[/B] in a situation where your theory of primitive side taking over is possible.
[QUOTE='[Green];43162783']You do realize that people can affect the amount of influence a fight or flight mechanism has over their actions, right? [/quote]
not very much influence.
[quote]If an autopilot fight or flight mode got engaged for everybody professional soldiers would be a fucking myth. [/quote]
military drill doesn't seek to replace the "fight-or-flight" response, it seeks to replace the actions associated with the response through conditioning. if you have ever talked to a soldier in a firefight, or hell, a cop in a firefight, they will describe the fight-or-flight response taking over their body. the difference is that their conditioning made it so they take actions that are considered proper for the context of war or shootouts.
instead of someone dropping their gun and cowering in a corner, the fight-or-flight and conditioning sets in and has them draw their weapon and shoot at the perpetrator.
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NOBODY IS BLAMING HER FOR BEING HYSTERICAL.[/QUOTE]
except the people i quoted.
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people don't behave rationally in highly stressful situations, they act upon instinct and past conditioning.
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stressful situations are actually a terrible place for rational decision making because rational decision making takes time.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162842]except the people i quoted.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck? Did you read only what I wrote in caps? 2 of the guys you quoted were giving her shit for resisting arrest and one was making fun of what she said because it was illogical.
yawmwen, are you just defending her because she's a woman
are the guy filming it
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43162885]What the fuck? Did you read only what I wrote in caps? 2 of the guys you quoted were giving her shit for resisting arrest and one was making fun of what she said because it was illogical.[/QUOTE]
one of them called her a "spoiled daddy's girl", another called her a "dumb bitch", and another was making fun of her for being illogical in a situation where logic isn't really a thing.
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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;43162906]yawmwen, are you just defending her because she's a woman
are the guy filming it[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162630]also the dude with the camera was sorta a dick because his interjections probably helped play a role in keeping her resistant. she probably would have calmed down more quickly if she didn't have someone reinforcing her resistance.[/QUOTE]
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people don't behave rationally in highly stressful situations, they act upon instinct and past conditioning.[/QUOTE]
And past conditioning made her decide it was a better idea to be as hysterical and stupid as possible. Ergo, it is entirely her fault. She made the decision to resist arrest, she made the decision to freak out, and she made the decision to escalate the situation.
It doesn't take "rational thinking" for someone to know it's a bad idea to resist arrest from a cop. It takes common sense.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162915]one of them called her a "spoiled daddy's girl", another called her a "dumb bitch", and another was making fun of her for being illogical in a situation where logic isn't really a thing.[/QUOTE]
So... calling her a "dumb bitch" or "spoiled daddy's girl"[B] for resisting arrest[/B] somehow equates to [B]blaming her for being hysterical[/B] in your head?
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[QUOTE]one of them called her a "spoiled daddy's girl", another called her a "dumb bitch",[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with your "survival mode" excuse?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43162951]So... calling her a "dumb bitch" or "spoiled daddy's girl" for resisting arrest somehow equates to blaming her for being hysterical in your head?[/QUOTE]
yea because they were directed at her hysterical response.
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[QUOTE=haloguy234;43162931]And past conditioning made her decide it was a better idea to be as hysterical and stupid as possible. Ergo, it is entirely her fault. She made the decision to resist arrest, she made the decision to freak out, and she made the decision to escalate the situation.
It doesn't take "rational thinking" for someone to know it's a bad idea to resist arrest from a cop. It takes common sense.[/QUOTE]
have you ever been in one of these situations before?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162968]yea because they were directed at her hysterical response.[/QUOTE]
No, they were directed [B]AT HER RESISTING ARREST[/B] like it says in what you just quoted
Christ you are dense.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43162977]No, they were directed [B]AT HER RESISTING ARREST[/B] like it says in what you just quoted
Christ you are dense.[/QUOTE]
no they weren't, the video doesn't even show what initial resistance she posed.
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unless they wanna criticize her for something they have no knowledge over.
maybe the officer spit in her face in that case idk if you can make stuff up so can i
sooooo what did she do
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162999]if you can make stuff up so can i[/QUOTE]
you've been doing this since the start
your posts don't make sense and the only thing I've got with the collection of them is that you're only defending her for her gender and nothing else
oh well page 2 is my limit, time to see The Hobbit
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162999]no they weren't, the video doesn't even show what initial resistance she posed.
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unless they wanna criticize her for something they have no knowledge over.
maybe the officer spit in her face in that case idk if you can make stuff up so can i[/QUOTE]
How in the flying fuck we don't know what happened before? She resisted arrest, that's what happened. That's why the cops are on top of her. Everything that happened is entirely on her.
2 officers walked up to her, spat in her face, at which point her primitive side took over and she thought it was life or death situation so the fight or flight mechanic kicked in? Is that what you're saying? How far from reality are you willing to go to defend a woman?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43163050]How in the flying fuck we don't know what happened before? She resisted arrest, that's what happened. That's why the cops are on top of her. Everything that happened is entirely on her. [/QUOTE]
source? you are making assumptions based on your own preconceived notions just like i am. the difference is that i'm not even trying to explain what happened before the video evidence.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43162999]no they weren't, the video doesn't even show what initial resistance she posed.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter what kind of initial resistance she posed. Flailing your arms, screaming and crying, and acting like a moron is the very definition of "resisting arrest". And no, I haven't been in one of these situations before because I'm not stupid enough to kick and scream and throw a childish tantrum when a man who's just doing his job tells me I'm under arrest.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;43163078]It doesn't matter what kind of initial resistance she posed. Flailing your arms, screaming and crying, and acting like a moron is the very definition of "resisting arrest". And no, I haven't been in one of these situations before because I'm not stupid enough to kick and scream and throw a childish tantrum when a man who's just doing his job tells me I'm under arrest.[/QUOTE]
my dad was a corrections officer at a prison, so i know firsthand how these things play out in the mind of the "perpetrator".
yawmwen you are easy to fool it is pretty blatantly obvious she is a dumb bitch making as much of a scene on purpose.
YOU BROKE MY TOOTH, I CANT BREATH, MY LEGS, blahblahblahblahblah.
I hope they broke her everything.
a lot of the techniques applied to prisoners were also used on me when i was being particularly unruly. even when it's my fault, it doesn't matter when you have your face being pressed against the wood flooring and all you want to do is try to get free.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163096]my dad was a corrections officer at a prison, so i know firsthand how these things play out in the mind of the "perpetrator".[/QUOTE]
Wow, good for you. My dad works in a prison as a guard and he sees this shit all the time. It has nothing to do with "primitive instinct". It's because they've done something wrong and they don't want to get locked up.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163075]source? you are making assumptions based on your own preconceived notions just like i am. the difference is that i'm not even trying to explain what happened before the video evidence.[/QUOTE]
So she didn't resist arrest in the first place? The officers threw her to the ground illegally?
You think the bystanders would mention that? Or that if that had happened the officer would be so nice and calm and explain shit that he doesn't have to?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43163120]So she didn't resist arrest in the first place? The officers threw her to the ground illegally?
You think the bystanders would mention that? Or that if that had happened the officer would be so nice and calm and explain shit that he doesn't have to?[/QUOTE]
idk which is why i'm not trying to explain anything that i cannot actually see in the video lol
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[QUOTE=haloguy234;43163117]Wow, good for you. My dad works in a prison as a guard and he sees this shit all the time. It has nothing to do with "primitive instinct". It's because they've done something wrong and they don't want to get locked up.[/QUOTE]
good for you maybe one day we can all be as perfect as haloguy234
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163116]a lot of the techniques applied to prisoners were also used on me when i was being particularly unruly. even when it's my fault, it doesn't matter when you have your face being pressed against the wood flooring and all you want to do is try to get free.[/QUOTE]
So, you're a criminal defending a woman committing a crime by resisting arrest?
I know it's a man saying it but it pisses me off how woman fight for equality in society and yet as soon as that brat didn't get what she wanted she was all for the guy screaming "SHES A GIRL YOU CAN'T DO THAT", I just think it's such a hypocritical thing to do. Before you say she may not fight for equality, I bet if you went up to that girl on any other fucking day and said "You're not equal" she'd go apeshit. But because she's in the shit, she's all for looking like a vulnerable weakling.
Cunt.
[QUOTE=Erasus;43163162]I know it's a man saying it but it pisses me off how woman fight for equality in society and yet as soon as that brat didn't get what she wanted she was all for the guy screaming "SHES A GIRL YOU CAN'T DO THAT", I just think it's such a hypocritical thing to do. Before you say she may not fight for equality, I bet if you went up to that girl on any other fucking day and said "You're not equal" she'd go apeshit. But because she's in the shit, she's all for looking like a vulnerable weakling.
Cunt.[/QUOTE]
why are people bringing gender into this
the fact that this is a woman has nothing to do with anything, she's just acting like every moron in the history of ever who has resisted arrest.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163132]idk which is why i'm not trying to explain anything that i cannot actually see in the video lol
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good for you maybe one day we can all be as perfect as haloguy234[/QUOTE]
sorry we all can't be criminals who want to fuck the system yawmwen!
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163132]idk which is why i'm not trying to explain anything that i cannot actually see in the video lol[/QUOTE]
But you were just explaining what she was THINKING, you dork. How do you actually see that in the video lol
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43163203]But you were just explaining what she was THINKING, you dork. How do you actually see that in the video lol[/QUOTE]
i can make a few assumptions based on her outward actions and my previous experiences in similar situations.
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[QUOTE=No Party Hats;43163201]sorry we all can't be criminals who want to fuck the system yawmwen![/QUOTE]
is calling me a "criminal" supposed to insult me?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43163235]i can make a few assumptions based on her outward actions and my previous experiences in similar situations.[/QUOTE]
So people can't make assumptions (based on the fact that there are countless vids of people resisting arrest and then acting just like that), only you can do that. Wow.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;43163263]So people can't make assumptions (based on the fact that there are countless vids of people resisting arrest and then acting just like that), only you can do that. Wow.[/QUOTE]
except i'm not making an assumption based on anything that cannot be clearly seen in the video.
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