• Arcade Fire - "We Exist" (featuring Andrew Garfield as a trans)
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[QUOTE=Foogooman;44828664]Seriously why the dumb ratings, calling out Burgerkern, Soleeedus, Chryseus, windwakr, bigmansham, Bernie Buddy, and F T someone want to explain?[/QUOTE] I rated it dumb for Arcade fire and Andrew Garfield, Seems to me their just attention seeking.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;44828918]Soleedus went ahead and explained himself in a PM to me:[/QUOTE] Send me a screenshot of the actual PM for permaban.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;44831394]Send me a screenshot of the actual PM for permaban.[/QUOTE] fag [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
Its kinda weird to read a thread where everyone is pro-trans but the ratings are all the other way around there is a disonance in the hivemind
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;44828672]Probably "Anything LGBT related = SJW nonsense"[/QUOTE] Forgive my ignorance, but what does SJW even mean? I know it's pretty much just used as a buzzword to justify hating on LGBT people/women, but I'm curious as to its origins.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;44834614]Forgive my ignorance, but what does SJW even mean?[/QUOTE] "Social Justice Warrior" iirc
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;44834614]Forgive my ignorance, but what does SJW even mean? I know it's pretty much just used as a buzzword to justify hating on LGBT people/women, but I'm curious as to its origins.[/QUOTE] Some people take "social justice" too far and become unhelpful extremists aka "social justice warriors" But on the internet if you have even a passing interest in social advancement you're called a SJW and your opinions are invalid There's a difference between "die cis scum" and "maybe we shouldn't be mean to people who are different and ask ourselves why we feel uncomfortable around them"
[QUOTE=Foogooman;44828918]Soleedus went ahead and explained himself in a PM to me:[/QUOTE] Ugh. I thought I'd never have to see that word again, guess I was too optimistic.
Well that was nice [QUOTE=Tacosheller;44826957]Why didn't they hire an actual transwoman though lmao[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=redback3;44834822]Well that was nice[/QUOTE] With what they were going for, you'd have to find a trans woman who hasn't transitioned but isn't also in the closet who can also act and dance and is comfortable in front of a crowd of 90,000 people Probably easier just to hire an actor to play the part
I get the impression sometimes that whenever an actor takes a role as a trans that people don't really pay attention to whether or not they're acting well, and just think that they're a great actor because they're able to copy a bit of female sassy body language. It's not something that's really happened too much yet(the only examples I can think of are Jared Leto in Dallas Buyers, and Cillian Murphy in Breakfast on Pluto, and they were both great) but I feel it's something that could definitely happen.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;44834856]With what they were going for, you'd have to find a trans woman who hasn't transitioned but isn't also in the closet who can also act and dance and is comfortable in front of a crowd of 90,000 people Probably easier just to hire an actor to play the part[/QUOTE] You actually hold a very good point there.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;44828918]Soleedus went ahead and explained himself in a PM to me:[/QUOTE] I legitimately think it was a dick move to post a pm in this thread. They're called private messages for a reason. Regardless of the content, even if it were pro trans.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;44827861]Why all the dumb ratings[/QUOTE] because it's dumb
[QUOTE=Soleeedus;44828941]hey, you wanted to know. :smile: [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Bigot, Terrible User" - Craptasket))[/highlight][/QUOTE]And stay banned you stupid fuck. [QUOTE=Viva;44837541]I legitimately think it was a dick move to post a pm in this thread. They're called private messages for a reason. Regardless of the content, even if it were pro trans.[/QUOTE]Soleeedus was always an idiot with terrible opinions, we're better off without him
[QUOTE=Killer900;44837757]And stay banned you stupid fuck. Soleeedus was always an idiot with terrible opinions, we're better off without him[/QUOTE] Regardless, i restate myself. Private messages would be rather redundant and inappropriately named if they weren't private, wouldn't they? If you were being harassed then tell a mod, don't publicly shame them just because you were offended. Foo wanted answer and foo was given answers. The message didn't need to be made public and the ban could still have taken place within the confines of alerting a mod. Don't be a dick to a dick, or else you're no better than they are.
nah i'm fairly sure they're still better than soledus. song is alright the dancing was cool though
[QUOTE=Viva;44838992] Don't be a dick to a dick, or else you're no better than they are.[/QUOTE] You mean banning someone on the internet forum makes you no better than actually desiring (not that I think soledus is anything more than an awful troll) the death of LGBT people.
[QUOTE=niel12_5D;44839015]You mean banning someone on the internet forum makes you no better than actually desiring (not that I think soledus is anything more than an awful troll) the death of LGBT people.[/QUOTE] Doesn't excuse you from acting like a child. I know this is soleeedus and the guy is an asshole but my point stands. Don't respond to an asshole by being an asshole. It just continues the cycle.
[QUOTE=Viva;44839022]Doesn't excuse you from acting like a child. I know this is soleeedus and the guy is an asshole but my point stands. Don't respond to an asshole by being an asshole. It just continues the cycle.[/QUOTE] You mean "acting like a child" is literally equatable to desiring the death of LGBT people.
[QUOTE=niel12_5D;44839029]You mean "acting like a child" is literally equatable to desiring the death of LGBT people.[/QUOTE] Oh please this is an internet forum and the guy's a troll, i'm talking about acting like a child is 'literally equatable' to being a pathetic internet troll.
[QUOTE=Viva;44839049]Oh please this is an internet forum and the guy's a troll, i'm talking about acting like a child is 'literally equatable' to being a pathetic internet troll.[/QUOTE] Children are cute and trolls are gross and live with their parents. That's really all I have to say about that matter.
[QUOTE=Viva;44839049]Oh please this is an internet forum and the guy's a troll, i'm talking about acting like a child is 'literally equatable' to being a pathetic internet troll.[/QUOTE] He's not a troll as far as I know. He actually has a thing for nazis.
[video=youtube;CncZorQNQ1E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CncZorQNQ1E[/video] This does a better job.
[QUOTE=Viva;44838992]Regardless, i restate myself. Private messages would be rather redundant and inappropriately named if they weren't private, wouldn't they? If you were being harassed then tell a mod, don't publicly shame them just because you were offended. Foo wanted answer and foo was given answers. The message didn't need to be made public and the ban could still have taken place within the confines of alerting a mod. Don't be a dick to a dick, or else you're no better than they are.[/QUOTE] nah exposing utter intolerance and nigh on sociopathy is not a problem and to punish that behavior aids in the development of the social collective that makes up humanity ain't no problem with public shaming for shitty behavior
Trannies got the right to express themselves, but that soleedus guy didn't have the right to express himself? The trannies were offended by guys like him as much as guys like him got offended by trannies. Ok, box inbound
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;45166881]Trannies got the right to express themselves, but that soleedus guy didn't have the right to express himself? The trannies were offended by guys like him as much as guys like him got offended by trannies. Ok, box inbound[/QUOTE] First of all, using that word is a dick move and you'd literally only use it if you wanted to rile people up, so I can tell this is probably just trolling. However, in case you actually are serious: a transgender person choosing to live their life as their identified gender doesn't hurt anybody. They are doing what they want with their own bodies, and not telling anybody else what they should do with theirs. For this reason, being transgender is not harmful (to others; on the contrary, the person themselves will take risks just by telling people who they are). However, calling transgender people 'degenerates', and saying that they should be hanged in public is a threat. He actively wishes people to be murdered purely because of how they feel about their own lives and bodies. If you really can't see why one of these things is harmless, and the other extremely dangerous, then you honestly need help.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;45166881]Trannies got the right to express themselves, but that soleedus guy didn't have the right to express himself? The trannies were offended by guys like him as much as guys like him got offended by trannies. [/QUOTE] it's pretty fucking disgusting that people actually think like this.
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Or maybe they can hire any actor they want. Because actors USUALLY play a character they aren't anyway. Because its pretend.
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