[QUOTE=usaokay;51005881]The flood wasn't in Halo 4, Reach, and ODST, but somehow those are still rated M.[/QUOTE]
probably because of language and violence, although Reach was also pretty dark about its character deaths
[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;51005582]I still can't wrap my mind around the new lore, as someone who has read all the books. Like, the old Halo lore was pretty simple. Forerunners were mysterious and everything that happened with them was equally so (FOR THE BETTER). What we did know was Humans were either the chosen successor of the Forerunner (Reclaimers) or they WERE Forerunners and that Forerunners were ancient Humans who fell apart and reverted.
It made sense. Nothing too original there, it'd be done in Sci-Fi, but it was a great reveal in Halo when you started to see it coming along and all.
I'm still completely blasted by the massive changes that came with the Forerunner books. Humans and Forerunners hate eachother and there IS an ancient Human civilization that is STRONGER than the Forerunners but the Flood got made and they got ate first and the Forerunners fought themselves and for whateverthefuck reason Humans were saved and no Forerunner was and blah blah blah. Right off the deepend.
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The problem imho was that the Forerunner books were mostly written by established authors with little series background in an attempt to seem "credible"; the results were books that don't do all that well as Halo IP but are too constrained by the established universe to really stand on their own.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;51005655]Only way i'd accept that is if they got the old crew back together instead of split in half. It's obvious that while what's left of Bungie has capability, they just aren't the same, especially after they gave the boot to Marty.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for marathon fans, greg kirkpatrick wont make a return regardless
[QUOTE=wat_am_i_doin;51005971]The problem imho was that the Forerunner books were mostly written by established authors with little series background in an attempt to seem "credible"; the results were books that don't do all that well as Halo IP but are too constrained by the established universe to really stand on their own.[/QUOTE]
I once had someone tell me that the Greg Bear books were the best in the series (as well as totally unassailable story-wise) because they were so unlike anything else in the franchise.
He later came to realize that he hated the franchise despite sinking like years of his life and emotional energy into it, but that just seems so odd to me that someone would make claims like that. I can see how departing from the established norms of a series could be interesting, but only if they're still cohesive with the tone and style of the rest of the series. When you like something in a series because it may as well [I]not[/I] be a part of the series... why even like the original?
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;51005712]I'm don't really remember the flood that well, were they really that ba-
[t]http://atdplogs.berkeley.edu/ailfeld/HaloWiki/images/Fld/full/Fld_combat.png[/t]
:scream:[/QUOTE]
there was always something particularly disturbing about the way Keyes is assimilated in Combat Evolved
[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kQb960IKSJU/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG]
there's nothing left but an [B]eyeless face[/B]
[editline]5th September[/editline]
also the Gravemind's dialogue is so fuckin radical, nothing will ever top it
[I]Now the gate has been unlatched, headstones pushed aside...[B]corpses shift and offer room[/B]... a fate you must abide...[/I]
[I]I am a monument to all your sins.[/I]
[QUOTE=Cone;51006059]there was always something particularly disturbing about the way Keyes is assimilated in Combat Evolved
[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kQb960IKSJU/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG]
there's nothing left but an [B]eyeless face[/B][/QUOTE]
I disagree--even in death, he still has rock-hard pectorals
[QUOTE=Recurracy;51005710]I like to imagine their victims' radio comms are still working. Imagine how terrorizing that must be.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to imagine it, they are. It's why you can still talk to Commander Keyes in the chapter Keyes.
the most terryfying part about the flood is that
[I]hahahah FUCK YOU HUMANITY, there is no cure[/I]
also there's also the fact that the way you get infected is painful as fuck and being infected is also extremely painful
imo worse than headcrabs
[QUOTE=Scorpo;51006237]the most terryfying part about the flood is that
[I]hahahah FUCK YOU HUMANITY, there is no cure[/I]
also there's also the fact that the way you get infected is painful as fuck and being infected is also extremely painful
imo worse than headcrabs[/QUOTE]
I mean, technically Johnson is immune to the Flood thanks to his implants as an unofficial first-gen SPARTAN (with a special voice clip lampshading it for if you manage to get him infected in the finale of Halo 3), but yeah, once you're infected, there's been no cases in series of someone completely outwilling the infection or being let loose of it outside of death.
If you want to see people aggressively defend 343i's artstyle, story telling, screw ups and mistakes, and trash Bungie's Halo come on by the Halo thread :v:
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;51005712]I'm don't really remember the flood that well, were they really that ba-
[t]http://atdplogs.berkeley.edu/ailfeld/HaloWiki/images/Fld/full/Fld_combat.png[/t]
:scream:[/QUOTE]
Tsutomu Nihei's rendition of the flood that they commissioned for the Halo Graphic Novel was particularly terrifying.
[t]http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma99vqtjim1rpshy9o1_1280.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/q1bO5za.jpg[/t]
The part that gets me the most butthurt about Halo 5 is the fight with Locke. Not only is it horribly animated and looks like it was ripped straight from a transformers movie, but it makes no sense whatsoever.
It's fucking Master Chief. A dude who has killed more Covenant than just about the rest of humanity combined. Covenant can see a fuckhuge human warship and think, "whatevs lol," but they trembled in fear at the sight of MC. He's essentially a god of death in the Halo universe, there has never been a living thing capable of challenging him save for *maybe* Gravemind. Still, throw all the flood in the world at him and he's still gonna get the job done he doesn't give a goddamn shit.
Now you're telling me some noob ONI scrub without supersoldier augmentations can slap on low budget normie Spartan III gear or whatever and slap MC's shit? Get the fuck out of here. MC should be able to take on the entirety of Locke's team in hand to hand combat and completely whomp the tits out of them without being scratched. If not out of physical ability (which his should vastly surpass those of Locke's team even with their power armor) then out of sheer experience, the guy has shoved his fists down the throats of brutes, hunters, elites, flood, it's pretty safe to say he kinda sorta is a master in the field.
Halo 5 low-key shits all over MC and I hate it so much for that. No human should be able to look at MC and make demands. Even in Halo 1, before he did what he did, he was revered as a god by other Marines. Suddenly Locke has ultra mega huge nuts and isn't shitting his pants speaking to a guy who has conquered the most mighty forces in the galaxy? Eat shit 343.
[QUOTE=usaokay;51004834]imo Halo 4-6 should instead be a soft-reboot that stars an entirely new cast - with Cortana and Chief being side-characters that doesn't fully involve them in the plot. Spartan Ops proved that it could have a likable cast of characters while still keeping fresh. The Spartan Ops writer also did Halo 5, so somehow that got fucked up.
Halo 5 almost felt like that, except it was done a bit too late when the new story was mainly about Cortana and Chief. overall, the game is a pretty coat of paint with fun gameplay designs that attempt to hide a shitty story[/QUOTE]
The problem with that is that Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending. Chief and Cortana stranded in space, hurdling towards an unknown planet. It kind of makes me wish Bungie made Halo 4 instead of Reach. The story was left so open that it was easy to fuck up.
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=MisterM;51005221]The most excited I have ever been for any video game ever was Halo 3 when this trailer came out. I must have rewatched it a dozen times that day trying to contain my hype.
[media]https://youtu.be/T9Ezd2FqxAU[/media]
Despite the fact the singleplayer was a bit of a let down it was my favourite online game and favourite 360 game. In multiplayer you met tons of crazy silly people as it was so popular and I played it for ages enjoying the new maps as they were released. I did play Halo 4 for the first time over a year ago and while I thought it was a really well put together game, it missed that certain charm and fun Bungie always had in its Halo games. I have no will whatsoever to play Halo 5 or 6 which is a real shame.[/QUOTE]
Halo 3 is one of very few games that lived up to massive hype, and probably the only game that not only lived up to it, but exceeded it as well.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51006347]The problem with that is that Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending. Chief and Cortana stranded in space, hurdling towards an unknown planet. It kind of makes me wish Bungie made Halo 4 instead of Reach. The story was left so open that it was easy to fuck up.
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I wouldn't be surprised it it was Microsoft that told Bungie to leave it at such of a cliffhanger just so that when another company picks it off they'll have somewhere to start off on.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;51006269]once you're infected, there's been no cases in series of someone completely outwilling the infection or being let loose of it outside of death.[/QUOTE]
That would be a cool plot point, someone getting infected by the flood and then completely kicking its ass and shedding it, could work for a new alien species.
I like the idea of The Flood encountering something that it is incapable of infecting in general, maybe some sort of a silicon based lifeform.
Another feel good plot point could involve someone ultra intelligent being completely unphased by the logic plague, like after 10 thousand years of the flood trying to convince them the person would still go "nope, you are still saying extremely retarded bullshit, stop bothering me"
I always wondered what would happen if The Flood were to fight against Warhammer 40k orcs.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;51006292]The part that gets me the most butthurt about Halo 5 is the fight with Locke. Not only is it horribly animated and looks like it was ripped straight from a transformers movie, but it makes no sense whatsoever.
It's fucking Master Chief. A dude who has killed more Covenant than just about the rest of humanity combined. Covenant can see a fuckhuge human warship and think, "whatevs lol," but they trembled in fear at the sight of MC. He's essentially a god of death in the Halo universe, there has never been a living thing capable of challenging him save for *maybe* Gravemind. Still, throw all the flood in the world at him and he's still gonna get the job done he doesn't give a goddamn shit.
Now you're telling me some noob ONI scrub without supersoldier augmentations can slap on low budget normie Spartan III gear or whatever and slap MC's shit? Get the fuck out of here. MC should be able to take on the entirety of Locke's team in hand to hand combat and completely whomp the tits out of them without being scratched. If not out of physical ability (which his should vastly surpass those of Locke's team even with their power armor) then out of sheer experience, the guy has shoved his fists down the throats of brutes, hunters, elites, flood, it's pretty safe to say he kinda sorta is a master in the field.
Halo 5 low-key shits all over MC and I hate it so much for that. No human should be able to look at MC and make demands. Even in Halo 1, before he did what he did, he was revered as a god by other Marines. Suddenly Locke has ultra mega huge nuts and isn't shitting his pants speaking to a guy who has conquered the most mighty forces in the galaxy? Eat shit 343.[/QUOTE]
The worst part of that scene for me was how it was just a couple of guys in mocap suits throwing obviously telegraphed and poorly choreographed attacks at each other when in Fall of Reach the Chief absolutely wipes the floor with a whole squad of ODSTs in under fifteen seconds, that fistfight should have looked like something out of anime with the way Spartans are supposed to be able to move
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51006347]The problem with that is that Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending. Chief and Cortana stranded in space, hurdling towards an unknown planet. It kind of makes me wish Bungie made Halo 4 instead of Reach. The story was left so open that it was easy to fuck up.
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Halo 3 didn't end on a cliffhanger. It wrapped everything up and then left the ending open for possible future games. The Legendary ending was just there to add to the mystery.
Halo 2, now THAT was a cliff hangar ending. Finish the fight, but only after you've bought a new console.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;51006408]That would be a cool plot point, someone getting infected by the flood and then completely kicking its ass and shedding it, could work for a new alien species.
I like the idea of The Flood encountering something that it is incapable of infecting in general, maybe some sort of a silicon based lifeform.
Another feel good plot point could involve someone ultra intelligent being completely unphased by the logic plague, like after 10 thousand years of the flood trying to convince them the person would still go "nope, you are still saying extremely retarded bullshit, stop bothering me"
I always wondered what would happen if The Flood were to fight against Warhammer 40k orcs.[/QUOTE]
IIRC Hunters are a strange case for the flood since they are actually colonies of individual worms, each with its own central nervous system, so it is very hard to assimilate them
[QUOTE=legolover122;51005289]Halo 3 had the best local multiplayer. Hook two xboxes together and have 4v4 matches and it was a guaranteed party.
RIP halo[/QUOTE]
my fondest memories of halo is split-screen co-op on halo 3 trying to get all the armour and achievements...
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51005687]You're in luck:
I only say this because Halo 5's Forge is coming to PC for free in 3 days, so apart from some HDD space, there's nothing to lose in trying it.
[editline]6th September 2016[/editline]
Tom French is Christ reborn.[/QUOTE]
i haven't been following anything about halo 5 forge pc but isn't it just the editor coming to pc?
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=angelangel;51006513]my fondest memories of halo is split-screen co-op on halo 3 trying to get all the armour and achievements...[/QUOTE]
i remember doing the thing where you had to jump through the halo rings in a certain order to get a skull
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
and halo 2 easter eggs and glitches were insane
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
halo 2 was the best bar none
[QUOTE=elitehakor;51006521]i haven't been following anything about halo 5 forge pc but isn't it just the editor coming to pc?
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
i remember doing the thing where you had to jump through the halo rings in a certain order to get a skull
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
and halo 2 easter eggs and glitches were insane
[editline]5th September 2016[/editline]
halo 2 was the best bar none[/QUOTE]
the halo 3 easter egg to get the samurai armor was pretty amazing tho
[QUOTE=elitehakor;51006521]i haven't been following anything about halo 5 forge pc but isn't it just the editor coming to pc?[/quote]
Nope; it's also got all of Multiplayer, just without matchmaking or warzone (a 24 player game mode.)
What that means is, as long as you invite players through Xbox live, you can play Halo 5's multiplayer for free, along with all the crazy custom games and custom maps that were made in forge.
What's even better is that a custom game browser is coming soon, meaning you won't even need to invite anyone to play.
[editline]6th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51005104]Even when they try to model the classic old stuff, it doesn't look right
[t]https://cdnb1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/866/013/large/airborn-studios-h5-a090-marmo.jpg?1453975533[/t]
This is supposed to be the Halo 1 Armor. It looks like a bootleg toy compared to the original design.[/QUOTE]
A bit late, but this was actually made by Airborn Studios.
They then made a much better one:
[t]http://orig11.deviantart.net/bc3c/f/2015/351/8/4/halo_5_multiplayer_armor_mark_iv__gen1__by_polyphobia3d-d9kf0n2.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51006586]A bit late, but this was actually made by Airborn Studios.
They then made a much better one:
[t]http://orig11.deviantart.net/bc3c/f/2015/351/8/4/halo_5_multiplayer_armor_mark_iv__gen1__by_polyphobia3d-d9kf0n2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Looks less retarded but honestly it's still greeble trash. It totally ignores many of the primary elements of the original design. Like his belt or the fact that they added gauntlets for no good reason.
Both look like lazy and thoughtless work honestly.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51006623]Looks less retarded but honestly it's still greeble trash. It totally ignores many of the primary elements of the original design. Like his belt or the fact that they added gauntlets for no good reason.
Both look like lazy and thoughtless work honestly.[/QUOTE]
I never noticed the original Mk. V had a fucking belt on it and I feel dumb now.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51006586]
A bit late, but this was actually made by Airborn Studios.
They then made a much better one:
[t]http://orig11.deviantart.net/bc3c/f/2015/351/8/4/halo_5_multiplayer_armor_mark_iv__gen1__by_polyphobia3d-d9kf0n2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
That's the Halo Wars armor, not Halo 1's armor
[t]http://www.halopedia.org/images/b/b4/Red_Team.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51006483]Halo 3 didn't end on a cliffhanger. It wrapped everything up and then left the ending open for possible future games. The Legendary ending was just there to add to the mystery.
Halo 2, now THAT was a cliff hangar ending. Finish the fight, but only after you've bought a new console.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, I think Halo 3 really did have a cliffhanger ending. The Human-Covenant war was over, but Master Chief was still floating around in space, hurdling toward this planet that no one really knew what was about until 5 years later. I'd say that's a cliffhanger. Not as bad as Halo 3, but it's more like a bridge to another story.
A bridge that never got completed, so someone else make a newer, shittier bridge on top of it.
Speaking of Halo 2, I really want to know what the original version of the game would have been like. I used to watch the DVD that came with the special edition all the time, the original plot sounded pretty awesome. It would have been cool to see what the ending was like, since 3 was basically formed from what was left of the last half of 2, right?
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51006774]I disagree, I think Halo 3 really did have a cliffhanger ending. The Human-Covenant war was over, but Master Chief was still floating around in space, hurdling toward this planet that no one really knew what was about until 5 years later. I'd say that's a cliffhanger. Not as bad as Halo 3, but it's more like a bridge to another story.
A bridge that never got completed, so someone else make a newer, shittier bridge on top of it.
Speaking of Halo 2, I really want to know what the original version of the game would have been like. I used to watch the DVD that came with the special edition all the time, the original plot sounded pretty awesome. It would have been cool to see what the ending was like, since 3 was basically formed from what was left of the last half of 2, right?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;4Fn8FI5thQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fn8FI5thQo[/video]
It would have ended with Arby and the Chief killing Truth at the earth Ark thing.
The reason they changed it according to marty is wrong though, they actually ran out of time because they had uncontrolled feature creep.
iirc, during the time between when Reach was released and when Bungie went independent, Microsoft asked Bungie about making a Halo 4 and I believe they even started pre-production on it; but they ultimately went to go make Destiny instead.
[QUOTE=tman450;51006809]iirc, during the time between when Reach was released and when Bungie went independent, Microsoft asked Bungie about making a Halo 4 and I believe they even started pre-production on it; but they ultimately went to go make Destiny instead.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Bungie wanted to be done with Halo at Halo 3 but since their contract was for 5 games they made ODST and Reach. Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach were used as test-beds for ideas they had for Destiny.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;51006665]That's the Halo Wars armor, not Halo 1's armor
[t]http://www.halopedia.org/images/b/b4/Red_Team.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Knowing that its Halo Wars armour instantly makes that Halo 5 version stop being shit. They didn't do too bad of a job in that regard.
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