Hitler speaking normally - General

His voice face doesn't match his real face.

[QUOTE=DrDevil;45450548]This video isn't available in your country. Is it ironic that I live in germany?[/QUOTE] Not ironic, it's the direct cause.

[QUOTE=Quark:;45450505]There's actually quite a bit of evidence that Hitler's personal doctor, during his time as leader of Germany, had him put on quite a few different drugs and "alternative treatments" that basically were the reason he sort of went insane during his middle-to-later years as leader of Germany. Before he was dead, he had become addicted to amphetamines and all other sorts of things, and had to have a lot of recurring treatments by his doctor. If he had never been assigned that doctor, it's entirely possible that WWII would have [I]never happened.[/I] Pretty freaky, IMO.[/QUOTE] WW2 happened for a lot different reasons and I honestly quite doubt that "If it wasn't just for this one event" is a real possibility. To start one of the worst wars in history takes quite a bit. I'm sure history would've ended up differently, but that's the nature of things. The whole war not starting seems unlikely though.

Not available here either. Why

[QUOTE=Nifae;45450043]Hitler was a person like any other. So many people hold this demonized view of him and fail to realize that he was a human being, albeit a little... political.[/QUOTE] yeah true that, why do people hold this demonized view of a man who caused the torturous deaths of millions of people? it's like another guy i can think of who is heavily demonized, pol pot, i mean, he was just a human being, albeit a little... political (had children execute their parents, had people killed for wearing glasses). what a idiotic thing to say. albert fish was a person too and he ate children, but i mean, people just fail to realize he was a human being [editline]21st July 2014[/editline] in regards to the video: it's hella weird to hear him talking in anything other than his shriek

alternative to the blocked youtube clip: [url]http://www.videobash.com/video_show/hitler-speaking-normally-subtitles-37679[/url]

[QUOTE=proch;45453625]Not available here either. Why[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/pl.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Quark:;45450505]There's actually quite a bit of evidence that Hitler's personal doctor, during his time as leader of Germany, had him put on quite a few different drugs and "alternative treatments" that basically were the reason he sort of went insane during his middle-to-later years as leader of Germany. Before he was dead, he had become addicted to amphetamines and all other sorts of things, and had to have a lot of recurring treatments by his doctor. If he had never been assigned that doctor, it's entirely possible that WWII would have [I]never happened.[/I] Pretty freaky, IMO.[/QUOTE] it was actually what the doctor who treated him in WWI did to him that sorta sent him on the mental crazy path.

it actually sounds as I expected. his thick austrian accent and mumbling just makes it a bit hard too understand sometimes.

This was recorded when Hitler visited mannerheim in karelia, on stationary train cabin. It was recorded without any permission from germans. It was said that the recorder was caught by the germans, but they just said to destroy the tape. But instead tape was given to YLE (Finnish state radio/TV channel) and put into archives for decades. Not to mention this: [QUOTE]There is an unsubstantiated story that during his meeting with Hitler, Mannerheim lit a cigar. Mannerheim supposed that Hitler would ask Finland for help against the Soviet Union, which Mannerheim was unwilling to give. When Mannerheim lit up, all in attendance gasped, for Hitler's aversion to smoking was well known. Yet Hitler continued the conversation calmly, with no comment. In this way, Mannerheim could judge if Hitler was speaking from a position of strength or weakness. He was able to refuse Hitler, knowing that Hitler was in a weak position, and could not dictate to him.[/QUOTE]

To add to what I stated earlier, basically WWI had profound effects on Hitler. He was a message carrier, and one day after delivering a message to the front lines, the people that he had just delivered a message to were killed by a shell. Hitler saw this as fate, that he was special, chosen to live for a greater purpose. He was also noted to have always been an outsider. Later on in the war, he was involved in a gas attack where he went temporarily blind. He was in a mental state of blindness as well, where psychologically he felt he was blind, when in reality his eyes worked fine. Part of this was because he still had aspirations for being an artist, and losing his sight was pretty much is ultimate fear. The doctor who was assigned to him had interesting methods to cure shell shock and cases like Hitler. Yell at them until they comply, to 're-instill military discipline' in his patients. Psychologically Hitler was broken, and felt he had a greater purpose already, only to be compounded by this Doctor. In the 30's, that doctor was found dead of 'suicide'. Source: a Smithsonian documentary on Hitler and WWI and his Psychology.

[QUOTE=DrDevil;45450548]This video isn't available in your country. Is it ironic that I live in germany?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=proch;45453625]Not available here either. Why[/QUOTE] It's also blocked in Israel. In fact all Hitler related videos on Youtube are blocked in Israel. I think most WW2 footage and some documentaries are also blocked. There is obviously some sort of a clear political reasoning here, someone has obviously pressured Youtube to block certain videos they deemed sensitive from certain countries. I just wonder what that reason may be.

[QUOTE=Nifae;45450043]Hitler was a person like any other. So many people hold this demonized view of him and fail to realize that he was a human being, albeit a little... political.[/QUOTE] Most politicians can barely be called humans.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;45453957]Most politicians can barely be called humans.[/QUOTE] To see Hitler, or any other tyrant for that matter as a monster is a dangerous misunderstanding of history as well as human nature. As much as people would like to deny it, Hitler was a human being. To distance ourselves from his actions, his background and beliefs is to deny the past and the resulting, inevitable future. Hitler was a man adored by his nation, a man who rose to power and brought Germany back up from the gutters after the events of the First World War. He loved his wife and he loved animals. He was a painter who ultimately killed millions of people, but he didn't do it alone. I believe that seeing him as a demon means forgetting his humanity, and ultimately condemning us to repeat history.

[QUOTE=BearsAteMyCat;45454526]To see Hitler, or any other tyrant for that matter as a monster is a dangerous misunderstanding of history as well as human nature. As much as people would like to deny it, Hitler was a human being. To distance ourselves from his actions, his background and beliefs is to deny the past and the resulting, inevitable future. Hitler was a man adored by his nation, a man who rose to power and brought Germany back up from the gutters after the events of the First World War. He loved his wife and he loved animals. He was a painter who ultimately killed millions of people, but he didn't do it alone. I believe that seeing him as a demon means forgetting his humanity, and ultimately condemning us to repeat history.[/QUOTE] I wasn't really speaking of Hitler, but of brainwashed puppets sitting in the parliaments around the world. Often when I see a politician speak I look into his eyes and see a void. They don't seem to have their own opinions, but it's like they are programmed. They have basically lost their humanity and only serve the party allowing their puppet masters to get to power.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;45454592]I wasn't really speaking of Hitler, but of brainwashed puppets sitting in the parliaments around the world. Often when I see a politician speak I look into his eyes and see a void. They don't seem to have their own opinions, but it's like they are programmed. They have basically lost their humanity and only serve the party allowing their puppet masters to get to power.[/QUOTE] For some, I suppose power can be an addiction. Make no mistake though, they are still human, and the very same applies to these people.

This is an interesting thing, to see two extremes. On one hand, you have the people who think he's a monster, and on the other you have people who think he's just human. I think we all can agree that Hitler was both, and yeah it's easy to forget he was human if we demonize him so, but it's also important not to forget that he was also a monster. Just, keep both in mind.

[QUOTE=Nifae;45450043]Hitler was a person like any other. So many people hold this demonized view of him and fail to realize that he was a human being, albeit a little... political.[/QUOTE] The way you phrase it, it as if the implication is that hitler wasnt so bad. When in reality, we all have a little hitler inside us. He's telling me to kill the jews again. Damnit.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45454723]This is an interesting thing, to see two extremes. On one hand, you have the people who think he's a monster, and on the other you have people who think he's just human. I think we all can agree that Hitler was both, and yeah it's easy to forget he was human if we demonize him so, but it's also important not to forget that he was also a monster. Just, keep both in mind.[/QUOTE] He was no monster, he was a human and a terrible one at that. People give the label of human too much credit.

[QUOTE=mn_chaos;45450802]I would actually be more terrified of Mannerheim than Hitler if I was the one secretly recording.[/QUOTE] How's that so?

[QUOTE=Tinter;45455126]He was no monster, he was a human and a terrible one at that. People give the label of human too much credit.[/QUOTE] he was one of the worst of all of us and not just because of his ideas but because he actually managed to put them into practice hundreds of years later and people will still remember him as basically the worst person to have ever lived, even if stalin is arguably just as bad funny though, how that worked out for him in the end

Afaik, though, being a amateur historian; Though I have done no extensive research on Hitler himself, it would appear Himmler and Goebbels were the main think-tank behind the holocaust, and the prior harassments of homosexuals, jews and so forth, rather than something Hitler himself gave order to do. Very interesting conversation, though, I haven't managed to stumble across it myself.