[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRAN_8CkvQ&feature=channel[/media]
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This guy thinks everything was made by god's "magic"
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88&feature=channel[/media]
Well then who the fuck made god huh? Where's your fucking answer now?
[QUOTE=combine487;23417225]Okay.. if I'm reading your weird size comparison analogy correctly you seem to be ignoring the fact that science, over the course of human history, has continued to make the universe a "smaller place" in comparison to us. Also, like I said before, your way of thinking doesn't contribute anything to out understanding of the natural world. Your just looking at complicated issues at throwing your arms in the air going "this isn't for us to understand". As I said before, its a good thing bold scientists have always ignored people like you.[/QUOTE]
And it is a good thing people like me have learned to ignore people like you. Because you think everything is predetermined by science. Science is a powerful thing, but I believe there are things that over power science, and I think it is funny you are wasting your time to attack my beliefs. Surely you know it is not going to get you anywhere. If science did not require the golden rule of seeing is believing then I would be on your side of the fence, but since science does not have another alternative I will stay on my side, and you can just disagree with me about it. I do understand that most things have to be governed by science I am not saying I disapprove of science completely. If it were not for scientist we would not be were we are today, but when it comes to certain things I have my own beliefs call me weird if you want because to me that is a compliment.
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[QUOTE=Soundwave;23417290]
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This guy thinks everything was made by god's "magic"[/QUOTE]
If you are referring to me, I do not portray the God I believe in to possess magical qualities. Sorry.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23416571]I found this in related, figured it would be relative to the subject. Here is some last words of famous atheist's.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68yymdLwx4E&feature=related[/media]
It is kind of ironic that some pray for help.[/QUOTE]
I wish I was a Christian so I could troll harder.
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[quote=soundwave;23417290]well then who the fuck made god huh? Where's your fucking answer now?[/quote]
fuckin magnets! How do they work?!
Well what's wrong with religion is it's run by men. And men are not God. And the men tend to say, "God is talking though me". What assurance can they give that that is true. They don't. They never have.
Except for Jesus. So don't go to church and just talk to yourself, I mean Jesus. And then realize there is no spiritual caller ID, and get REALLY FUCKING SCARED.
[QUOTE=FuckingHellshit;23417336]I wish I was a Christian so I could troll harder.
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fuck magnets! How do they work?![/QUOTE]
magnets are made from a type of rock that has a negative side and a positive side :v:
[QUOTE=Soundwave;23417290] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=glRAN_8CkvQ[/URL]
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This guy thinks everything was made by god's "magic"
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88[/URL]
Well then who the fuck made god huh? Where's your fucking answer now?[/QUOTE]
Well how the fuck did the mass of rock that exploded and fucking sent pieces of shrapnel whirrling through the fucking universe picking up orbit off of larger pieces of shrapnel just magically appear? I am not sure if you are a big bang theorist or not but most atheist are. See that is the part were science is out of the picture, it is undetermined to this day how we came to be that is why there are just "theories".
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23417301]And it is a good thing people like me have learned to ignore people like you. Because you think everything is predetermined by science. Science is a powerful thing, but I believe there are things that over power science, and I think it is funny you are wasting your time to attack my beliefs. Surely you know it is not going to get you anywhere. If science did not require the golden rule of seeing is believing then I would be on your side of the fence, but since science does not have another alternative I will stay on my side, and you can just disagree with me about it.
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If you are referring to me, I do not portray the God I believe in to possess magical qualities. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
For the 3rd time, your way of thinking doesn't contribute to anything, at all. Everything is predetermined by science because by defenition, science is pretty much the study of everything. You believe that things overpower science... That is a scientific claim!!! What exactly is your defenition of science?!
Also "and I think it is funny you are wasting your time to attack my beliefs. Surely you know it is not going to get you anywhere." Wow, you actually said that? Like I knew you thought it but you went down and wrote that. So much for open minded.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23417301]And it is a good thing people like me have learned to ignore people like you. Because you think everything is predetermined by science. Science is a powerful thing, but I believe there are things that over power science, and I think it is funny you are wasting your time to attack my beliefs. Surely you know it is not going to get you anywhere. If science did not require the golden rule of seeing is believing then I would be on your side of the fence, but since science does not have another alternative I will stay on my side, and you can just disagree with me about it. I do understand that most things have to be governed by science I am not saying I disapprove of science completely. If it were not for scientist we would not be were we are today, but when it comes to certain things I have my own beliefs call me weird if you want because to me that is a compliment.
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If you are referring to me, I do not portray the God I believe in to possess magical qualities. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to contradict you, but your idea that science "aint' all that" is a bit strange to me.
Science is everything, science is atoms, physics, air, fire, living, dying. Science is probably the biggest thing we are sure of.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;23417290][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRAN_8CkvQ&feature=channel[/media]
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This guy thinks everything was made by god's "magic"
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88&feature=channel[/media]
Well then who the fuck made god huh? Where's your fucking answer now?[/QUOTE]
fuck, that video made me angry!
wait, ahh he's kidding
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thank "god"
[QUOTE=Soundwave;23417290][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRAN_8CkvQ&feature=channel[/media]
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This guy thinks everything was made by god's "magic"
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it's satire
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23416671]Here we go once again with the proof, I know seeing is believing for you, but you have the ability to alter that. You just have to open your mind to different levels and lead it away from human habits. Once you accomplish that the way you view things and the world and universe will be totally different. There are many secrets to unlock within the universe but it can only be done with your thoughts and because of that you have to be open minded. I myself believe a lot of things go beyond science and that is why we are unable to comprehend the universe around us because we believe science is the only way of proving something.[/QUOTE]
Um okay how's this.
I'm thinking of a number. Guess it. If you're wrong you eternally burn in a lake of fire.
See how I sound like a dick? Yeah if there's a god let's hope he's not a dick.
[QUOTE=combine487;23417461]For the 3rd time, your way of thinking doesn't contribute to anything, at all. Everything is predetermined by science because by defenition, science is pretty much the study of everything. You believe that things overpower science... That is a scientific claim!!! What exactly is your defenition of science?!
Also "and I think it is funny you are wasting your time to attack my beliefs. Surely you know it is not going to get you anywhere." Wow, you actually said that? Like I knew you thought it but you went down and wrote that. So much for open minded.[/QUOTE]
I say most things are predetermined by science, you say everything. The word everything is so broad, that is why I cannot say everything is predetermined by science. Everything is classified as [I]all things or all of a group of things[/I]. I cannot say science will figure out how the universe was created, that is why we are still stuck with theories instead of answers.
I definitely think you are a smart dude, you are the only one that has legitimate arguments, but it is pointless because you believe what you believe and I will continue believing what I believe. And it's all good, because I respect your beliefs, I just hope you see were I am coming from because I understand were you are coming from.
Oh yea I forgot to address your question. My definition of science is definitely understandable I will have to formulate it and message it to you sometime but tonight my brain is fried. I am sleep deprived.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23417584]I say most things are predetermined by science, you say everything. The word everything is so broad, that is why I cannot say everything is predetermined by science. Everything is classified as [I]all things or all of a group of things[/I]. I cannot say science will figure out how the universe was created, that is why we are still stuck with theories instead of answers.[/QUOTE]
And science is the study of everything. So everything is predetermined by science. Any claim that something is beyond science is self-defeating because it is a scientific claim. If tomorrow we proved god's existence, god would become a scientific matter. If tomorrow we discovered that stars are actually gigantic flaming marshmallows powered by old-printer cartridges, it would become a scientific matter.
No, perhaps we will never know how the universe was created. But however way it did, it was a scientific process, because it existed and occured. The choice is what kind of way of thinking is going to help us know how the universe was created. We have alot of science ahead of us, and I think it would be a smart bet to put your money with the scientists to discover how it happened, rather than the superstitous claims of anybody.
I'm glad we are getting somewhere have a good nights sleep
a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws. <<<< This is the definition of science, do you see the word everything in that description? I looked over all of the definitions listed and not one said "everything". That is where your argument hits the wall.
You have to study something and make it fact before it goes down in science, anything excluded from that definition would be labeled as a phenomenon such as ghosts, or how the universe was created in my opinion.
You can do scientific studies on anything and everything, but the question is can those things be turned to truths or transitioned to facts?
Religous or not, this video sent a message for all to understand:
Do not place your trust in things that grow old, for they will leave you. And when they do
You will be alone.
I do believe there is a life after death this is one of the most pointed to cases. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds_(singer[/url])
[quote]During the operation but prior to her being put in cardiac arrest, Reynolds later reported hearing a sound like a natural 'D'. The sound seemed to pull her out of her body. She reported floating around in the operating room and watching the doctors performing the operation. She felt more aware than normal and her vision was more focused and clearer than normal vision. She made several observations in this state, for example:
* She noticed the doctor using a drill to open her skull. It surprised her that it looked like an electric toothbrush, not like a saw as she expects. It is later confirmed that the drill used by the doctor was similar in appearance to an electric toothbrush.
* She heard a female voice say, "We have a problem. Her arteries are too small." It is later confirmed that the doctors first tried to connect the heart-lung machine to the right leg. But the arteries were so small that they switched to the left leg.
These examples appear to show that she was able to see and hear during the operation.
At some point during the operation she noticed a presence. Then she was pulled towards a light. As she got closer the light became very bright. She began to discern figures in the light, including her grandmother, an uncle, other deceased relatives and people unknown to her.
The longer she was there, the more she enjoyed it. But at some point in time she was reminded that she had to go back. Her uncle brought her back to her body. When she looked at her body she didn't want to go back in. Her uncle tried to persuade her, but she kept refusing. Then she saw her body making a jump (caused by the defibrillation to start up her heart). Her uncle gave her a push and she was back in her body.[/quote]
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23417888]a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws. <<<< This is the definition of science, do you see the word everything in that description? I looked over all of the definitions listed and not one said "everything". That is where your argument hits the wall.
You have to study something and make it fact before it goes down in science, anything excluded from that definition would be labeled as a phenomenon such as ghosts, or how the universe was created in my opinion.
You can do scientific studies on anything and everything, but the question is can those things be turned to truths or transitioned to facts?[/QUOTE]
"Dealing with a body of facts or truths" Meaning anything that IS and can be proven as such. So yea, basically everything (important)
I just don't believe in god, i say he doesn't exist.
Neither of us have proof at all but hey, I don't care.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23417888]a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws. <<<< This is the definition of science, do you see the word everything in that description? I looked over all of the definitions listed and not one said "everything". That is where your argument hits the wall.
You have to study something and make it fact before it goes down in science, anything excluded from that definition would be labeled as a phenomenon such as ghosts, or how the universe was created in my opinion.
You can do scientific studies on anything and everything, but the question is can those things be turned to truths or transitioned to facts?[/QUOTE]
Like someone above me said, facts or truths. I know I can't show you a defenition that says "Science is everything", but the defenition you gave is close enough. Science deals with discovering facts and truths about the universe. Whatever you claim overpowers science must therefore be a fact or truth about the universe, and is therefore scientific, which means it can be proven in some form.
yeh
No such thing as god, guy is satire comedian. :smug:
I don't believe in god because I have to get an updated flu shot every year.
I respect his thoughts and his family has my condolences, but my views remain the same.
Holy shit you athiests are such tools. If the man wants to believe something that makes him feel better, let him fucking believe it. He isn't hurting you. Let Christians believe what they want, don't take that away from them. God dammit it pisses me off how you athiests think you're the only fucking ones out there. It's not anyones place to bash on someones religion.
Faith. You can't prove a god, but you can't prove that there isn't.
edit: why are people interlacing religion and science? lol'd
The worst part is that it's as if nobody just saw it coming and didn't bother.
all I can think of is that it's a real shame, that someone would believe what he believes his whole life only to be disappointed. i feel for the guy. although he won't really be disappointed since he'll be dead but you get what i mean.
Religion is based on Faith.
Science is based on Study and facts.
See where I'm going here? You don't need to have faith in order to Study and find facts about something. Yeah don't need Study to find faith. Facts. Whatever. Vice Versa or whatever the hell.
[QUOTE=mbutler2;23418106]I do believe there is a life after death this is one of the most pointed to cases. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds_%28singer"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds_(singer[/URL])[/QUOTE]
How is this proof of anything. When you dream you often incorporate real-life input and old memories into your dreams.
I don't see how that doesn't explain what happened here.
ITT: Sad video and then walls of text longer than great wall of china
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