[QUOTE=spekter;23424208][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%25_of_brain_myth[/URL]
Refutation being the main area you need to read.
Myth: a traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people
That's religion.[/QUOTE]
There are many different parts of the brain that control emotion and function, I am simply speaking of the part that produces our thoughts, we are not using our brain to the levels that they can be pushed. As a matter of fact the smartest of the smart like Einstein did not even use his brain to his max level, this leads me to believe anyone and everyone has the ability to achieve those levels if they just believe and exercise there minds.
[QUOTE=Mr.Zombo;23424580]actually, man wrote the book. it's common knowledge to many atheists and christians that it was written by man who, shall we say, "interpreted messages" from their god.
science is science, religion is religion. though both may seem to have huge, foundational evidence, i only accept either with substantial evidence. i will NOT accept prevailing [b]theories[/b] about the origins of our universe, so i choose to have faith and believe in a creator.[/QUOTE]
Ahahaha. I will not believe the Theory of Gravity, Germ Theory of Disease, and Sex Theory of Reproduction because they are just [B]theories[/B]. There's a difference between a scientific theory and a layman theory.
"i only accept either with substantial evidence-so i choose to have faith and believe in a creator"
Faith is believing in something WITHOUT substantial evidence. What are you babbling about?
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424585]If that did not faze you then you need to open your eyes. Seriously.[/QUOTE]
Who are you to judge what is right and what is wrong, why are you forming an argument trying to persuade me to believe in nothing. I do not want to believe that and I will not believe that, my process of thinking differentiates from that of the generic atheist and I will not conform to those beliefs sorry. He makes sufficient arguments and valid points but then were does it go from there? Nowhere...
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[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23424624]There are many different parts of the brain that control emotion and function, I am simply speaking of the part that produces our thoughts, we are not using our brain to the levels that they can be pushed. As a matter of fact the smartest of the smart like Einstein did not even use his brain to his max level, this leads me to believe anyone and everyone has the ability to achieve those levels if they just believe and exercise there minds.[/QUOTE]
No. That's wrong. Just no. Humans use all of the thinking parts of their brain. If they didn't, evolution would have taken care of that, especially an organ as important as the brain. Show me your source for your information.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424645]Ahahaha. I will not believe the Theory of Gravity, Germ Theory of Disease, and Sex Theory of Reproduction because they are just [B]theories[/B]. There's a difference between a scientific theory and a layman theory.
"i only accept either with substantial evidence-so i choose to have faith and believe in a creator"
Faith is believing in something WITHOUT substantial evidence. What are you babbling about?[/QUOTE]
You are a fucking idiot, gravity is not a theory it is a fucking law. Read a god damn book dude.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23424660]Who are you to judge what is right and what is wrong, why are you forming an argument trying to persuade me to believe in nothing. [B]I do not want to believe that[/B] and I will not believe that, my process of thinking differentiates from that of the generic atheist and I will not conform to those beliefs sorry. He makes sufficient arguments and valid points but then were does it go from there? Nowhere...[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424687]No. That's wrong. Just no. Humans use all of the thinking parts of their brain. If they didn't, evolution would have taken care of that, especially an organ as important as the brain. Show me your source for your information.[/QUOTE]
Dude I cannot respond to your posts furthermore because you are simply missing the points I am trying to get across. Plus you think gravity is a theory so that pretty much sums you up.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23424695]You are a fucking idiot, gravity is not a theory it is a fucking law. Read a god damn book dude.[/QUOTE]
You best be trolling.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424699]Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I have said time and time again I am not trying to convert anyone to anything, I could give a rats ass if your a atheist hindu or a fucking Buddhist, I dont give a flying fuck. I am just simply stating my thoughts. You can be whatever.
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[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424729]You best be trolling.[/QUOTE]
Newton formulated the theory of gravitation but now it has been changed to a law. It is no longer theory, gravity [B]is[/B] what anchors us to the earth, it [B]is[/B] what holds the planets in orbit. Now on the other hand relativity is still a theory and a brilliant one at that. I never said I do not believe in theories, but there is one main event that has hundreds of theories and that is how the universe came about and how we became a human race. These are secrets that will probably never be fully known.
[url]http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/[/url]
I think you will agree with the theory of falling quite well.
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Scientific laws are the explanations used which are part of a theory. The theory itself is used to predict and explain the reasoning behind these laws. Look up General Relativity.
Oh fuck it. You're brainwashed FUBAR-style.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23424788][URL]http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/[/URL]
I think you will agree with the theory of falling quite well.
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Scientific laws are the explanations used which are part of a theory.
Oh fuck it. You're brainwashed FUBAR-style.[/QUOTE]
A law differs from a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory"]scientific theory[/URL] in that it does not posit a mechanism or explanation of phenomena: it is merely a distillation of the results of repeated observation. As such, a law is limited in applicability to circumstances resembling those already observed, and is often found to be false when extrapolated. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm%27s_law"]Ohm's law[/URL] only applies to constant currents, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation"]Newton's law of universal gravitation[/URL] only applies in weak gravitational fields, the early laws of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamics"]aerodynamics[/URL] such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle"]Bernoulli's principle[/URL] do not apply in case of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressible_flow"]compressible flow[/URL] such as occurs in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transonic"]transonic[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic"]supersonic[/URL] flight, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooke%27s_law"]Hooke's law[/URL] only applies to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strain_%28physics%29"]strain[/URL] below the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_limit"]elastic limit[/URL], etc.
Please just stop...
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Laws can always change but they are reoccurring cycles and until that cycle breaks then the law is henceforth changed. Read up on shit bro, it is not that difficult.
"i only accept either with substantial evidence-so i choose to have faith and believe in a creator"
Combine487 is the only one who has posed a legitimate argument that has truth to it, you are pulling shit from your ass and smearing it all over this thread. You are on the right track but you are going the wrong direction.
On a real note I will return to this thread when someone makes a post worth debating over.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23424946]Combine487 is the only one who has posed a legitimate argument that has truth to it, you are pulling shit from your ass and smearing it all over this thread. You are on the right track but you are going the wrong direction.
On a real note I will return to this thread when someone makes a post worth debating over.[/QUOTE]
Ah, the sweet taste of victory.
I wouldn't unleash the beast normally but when someone whips out the "IT'S JUST A THEORY YR Y" thing I cut the chain of badassery.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23425012]Ah, the sweet taste of victory.
I wouldn't unleash the beast normally but when someone whips out the "IT'S JUST A THEORY YR Y" thing I cut the chain of badassery.[/QUOTE]
Yea and apparently gravity is still a theory. And according to you a law and a theory are the same. Yea you really defeated me, good job. Now you can leave the thread.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23425133]Yea and apparently gravity is still a theory. And according to you a law and a theory are the same. Yea you really defeated me, good job. Now you can leave the thread.[/QUOTE]
I'm laughing because you are the most misinformed person I have ever met. Even if you were right, you're strawmanning. I put 2 other "theories" on the platter and you're only biting one of them.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23425226]I'm laughing because you are the most misinformed person I have ever met. Even if you were right, you're strawmanning. I put 2 other "theories" on the platter and you're only biting one of them.[/QUOTE]
The only two theories you listed are completely irrelevant to what we are speaking about. I never said I completely trash theories, only the ones that will never be proven are the ones I do not believe. Please tell me how I am misinformed. why don't you show me the truth your excellence? Let me know the true meaning of enlightenment and impart this knowledge upon me so that maybe I can be informed just like every atheist that exists.
You cannot declare anyone misinformed, we are all misinformed. There is not one single person on this planet that can tell us what to believe because we are to ignorant to expand our knowledge to find the real truth because we have to see to believe. Maybe the secrets that lie out in the universe cannot be seen unless you want to see them, maybe I am right and maybe I am wrong. But I know if I was an atheist I would feel as if I were wrong and my mind would not be striving to figure out this phenomena.
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23425403]The only two theories you listed are completely irrelevant to what we are speaking about. I never said I completely trash theories, o[B]nly the ones that will never be proven are the ones I do not believe[/B]. Please tell me how I am misinformed. why don't you show me the truth your excellence? Let me know the true meaning of enlightenment and impart this knowledge upon me so that maybe I can be informed just like every atheist that exists.[/QUOTE]
We were debating the fact that you don't believe in something because it's a "theory" so you choose to pick the one with "substantial" evidence, therefore you chose to have faith and believe in a god. The irony bewilders me.
And now you claim to be able to tell the future.
It's sad that an old man's last moments are spent reviewing religious dogma.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23425518]We were debating the fact that you don't believe in something because it's a "theory" so you choose to pick the one with "substantial" evidence, therefore you chose to have faith and believe in a god. The irony bewilders me.
And now you claim to be able to tell the future.[/QUOTE]
Please find evidence of that claim. I never once said that I could see the future. I also never said I do not believe in all theories. Most theories will be proven fact in the near future, but there are theories that will never be proven, and those are the ones were my doubts manifest. You are taking what I am saying and contorting it to something I did not say. Read a little bit closer friend.
And you still yet have not let me know how I am misinformed, this is all I am concerned about.
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[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;23425590]It's sad that an old man's last moments are spent reviewing religious dogma.[/QUOTE]
It is not sad, I am sure he would rather leave this planet with the thoughts of him going to a better place rather than crossing over into a dark abyss were all he will find is emptiness.
He wouldn't find anything. He ceases to exist.
I was right
[QUOTE=WaXeD187;23425635]Please find evidence of that claim. I never once said that I could see the future. I also never said I do not believe in all theories. Most theories will be proven fact in the near future, but there are theories that will never be proven, and those are the ones were my doubts manifest. You are taking what I am saying and contorting it to something I did not say. Read a little bit closer friend.
And you still yet have not let me know how I am misinformed, this is all I am concerned about.
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It is not sad, I am sure he would rather leave this planet with the thoughts of him going to a better place rather than crossing over into a dark abyss were all he will find is emptiness.[/QUOTE]
...No comment. I think Facepunchers have already made up their opinions about you.
[QUOTE=Viephemeral;23425767]...No comment. I think Facepunchers have already made up their opinions about you.[/QUOTE]
Well I am not here to gain positive opinions and you have failed to enlighten me.
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[QUOTE=Fkpuz Version 1;23425747]I was right[/QUOTE]
You were 100% correct I rated you agreed. By the way who is that in your avatar lol?
Anyone who wanted this guy to die is no human being. I know he did, but to those who wanted him to, you have absolutely no soul.
I don't think it's right to videotape a dying man.
This message is basically what Priest's and the like try to enforce on people, digging into their guilt the so called "sins" and wrapping them around the fear of uncertainty that exists within all of us. We don't know where we go when we die, so lets scare people into basically, a faith that could fuck you over when you're helpless to change it right?
You live your life, anyway you want and then you die. Game over. As for religious arguments, as an Atheist I see them as a never ending circle, one is just as bad as the other. I've seen religion to be corrupt, man deluding the poor, confused and weak minded to profit himself. Sickens me to think about it.
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