AIR CONTROL - Steam Has Officially Shit Itself (Jim Sterling) - General

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;44911529]You see, the problem with an "open market" is that it can be easily be exploited by idiots, con artists, and just general assholes. An open, unregulated market is garbage and it just serves to highlight why Valve fails as a company. We have seen this happen on Steam. What once was (and still is) the premiere service for PC users and the first thing a newcomer to the PC gaming scene sees. Yet it has become the PC equivalent of the Xbox Indie Market. A place for cheap troll titles made by either trolls or genuinely stupid individuals. The problem is, unlike Xbox's indie section, Steam PROUDLY displays this shit on the front page in the New Releases section. It is right there in the same market as everything else, not quarantined to Greenlight. Valve has had this idea of total freedom in their management. The problem is that freedom is just plain bullshit. It is great in some areas, but total an unrestricted freedom -basically videogame anarchy- has proven to be a horrible thing. People need strong leaders and authority to guide them and give them shit to do, and to put them in line if necessary. As fascist as that sounds, no functioning society ever lived without a government, no game company ever lived without structured management, and no market ever lived without some kind of regulation and quality control. It doesn't just apply to Steam. It applies to everything Valve does. Even the way they are structured (with employees being able to freely go from project to project unrestricted and with virtually no authority) has shown to be radically inefficient. Entire projects die just because the people working on them get bored. Valve's flagship franchise, Half-Life, hasn't had an installment in years because nobody there wants to work on it and there are no superiors around to force them too. Valve has become a joke, taking too long to provide too little. Now they are a joke on Greenlight, leaving the whole thing completely regulated by the community and thus letting the shit seep in. I am tired of Valve. While I am not a big fan of the Nazi-like authority exhibited in some companies (*cough* EA *cough*) at least it is [I]efficient.[/I] And let us be honest, despite the fact that it has its own brand of shit in its own right, you wouldn't see this kind of shit fly on Origin.[/QUOTE] Capitalism in it's pure, unadultered form. Hopefully they will revert in time.

[QUOTE=xBackfire;44911183]Ok so i'm looking at that dude's screenshots of the game and there is one where it has like a gun thing and a future enviroment. Are we so sure this game doesn't have some kind of hidden shit like one of those ironically bad games like The Fantastic game or something that Vinesauce plays? like this seems genuinely like one of those games but maybe the dev isn't that smart.\ Like whenever shit like this comes out I just guess that the developers are Andy Kaufman in game dev form or something.[/QUOTE] i thought that was pretty obviously what it was

He didn't even get to flying the plane. Scrub. [video=youtube;WDOA9quwvTA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDOA9quwvTA[/video]

This is beyond Bad Rats level of terrible-funny.

[QUOTE=Nomicro4u;44912004]Alright guys it's settled. Who wants to start making shitty games with me to release on steam?[/QUOTE] Take my sword

[QUOTE=Nomicro4u;44912004]Alright guys it's settled. Who wants to start making shitty games with me to release on steam?[/QUOTE] Work can finally begin on "[b]Fuck Shit Up[/b]" Probably going to end up better than 90% of the games to be released too

[QUOTE=PaperBurrito;44913666]He didn't even get to flying the plane. Scrub. [video=youtube;WDOA9quwvTA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDOA9quwvTA[/video][/QUOTE] Never since X-Plane have I seen flight characteristics modeled so realistically. This is top notch, stuff. Trust me, I'm a pilot. Every time a game like this comes out, I have to point out that thanks to Greenlight and Early Access, we'll be seeing more of them. It's just another form of scamming people, only it takes slightly more effort than mass spamming the Nigerian Prince bullshit, and since you're selling [b]SOMETHING[/b] It isn't illegal I bet if you gave me a month, with zero experience and only Google as my guide, I could get something green lit, and sell it, and make a year or two's pay out of it. But I'm not a colossal asshole to my fellow gamers, and have too much respect for the industry thanks to all the entertainment its given me throughout my life

[QUOTE=Memobot;44907916]Dear Valve, Please shut down Greenlight immediately. Please check all games before making them available to purchase on Steam. If you take a game down for being bad, check it again when they resubmit it. Remember Earth 2066. Remember WarZ. Remember. Thank you and best wishes, Humanity.[/QUOTE] Greenlight would be good if it actually fulfilled its intended purpose of finding games that aren't on Steam and people want to buy. It's failed at this by a country mile. Gabe's intention is to get rid of Greenlight so that anyone can publish on the platform without any involvement from Valve - this will actually enable games like this even more.

[QUOTE=SteveUK;44914278]Greenlight would be good if it actually fulfilled its intended purpose of finding games that aren't on Steam and people want to buy. It's failed at this by a country mile. Gabe's intention is to get rid of Greenlight so that anyone can publish on the platform without any involvement from Valve - this will actually enable games like this even more.[/QUOTE] How about a small team of people who Valve could trust (aka they know them internally, doesn't really need to work at Valve) who would simply accept, refuse and ban greenlight games and if shit gets wild they could lay the blame on the people responsible for accepting the game. But i guess there are flaws in this method.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;44914396]How about a small team of people who Valve could trust (aka they know them internally, doesn't really need to work at Valve) who would simply accept, refuse and ban greenlight games and if shit gets wild they could lay the blame on the people responsible for accepting the game. But i guess there are flaws in this method.[/QUOTE] The idea is that the consumers are supposed to fill this role. The problem is that consumers are idiots.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;44915504]The idea is that the consumers are supposed to fill this role. The problem is that consumers are idiots.[/QUOTE] It's not the consumers fault when the product page has completely false screenshots of the game.

[QUOTE=Thlis;44915701]It's not the consumers fault when the product page has completely false screenshots of the game.[/QUOTE] Greenlight has many flaws. Valve did state that Greenlight is just a big experiment to see how this goes but the results seem pretty clear now :v: