• Target Shoplifter Apprehensions
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[QUOTE=Death_God;44850511]you cant really justify stealing id say the only times to ever steal is if its bullshit overcharged stuff like $60-$80 for a t-shirt[/QUOTE] Even then why would you steal a 80$ t-shirt? Just buy a 15$ one.
[QUOTE=Death_God;44850456]i still think my favorite part of this video is the "slimmest tv in the world" poster at the end[/QUOTE] this is why i think this is secretly an advertisement
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;44852829]this is why i think this is secretly an advertisement[/QUOTE] It's not a secret, that video cuts off before the LG logo.
Do you have the power to/have you ever made the alarm go off (the one they have by the exit/entrance detectors thing) just because someone seemed shady and you wanted to check them out?
[QUOTE=Richy19;44857936]Do you have the power to/have you ever made the alarm go off (the one they have by the exit/entrance detectors thing) just because someone seemed shady and you wanted to check them out?[/QUOTE] Yeah, actually. We did once although it didn't even make sense for us to in the grand scheme of things. When that woman who stole $10,000 worth of tablets came back and we finally spotted her while she was in the store me and the other LP were watching and he put a spider wrap in his pocket so the door would go off and we'd have a reason to stop her even if she didn't end up stealing. We just wanted to scare the shit out of her since we are discouraged from doing apprehensions at Best Buy. It didn't matter though because she did end up stealing. She stuffed six/seven Kindle Fires into her yoga pants and didn't even take the spiderwraps off. So the door would have rang with or without our intervention.
In my little 600 square feet market where I work, somebody has been stealing the Poligrip (denture adhesive cream). They've been leaving the box with the product missing inside... I can only imagine an older person taking the time to open up the box, take it out and leave the box back in it's original spot.
At the local wal-mart my mom and I were getting some things and as we were leaving the alarm started going off. We stopped and waited for a security guard or employee to come over and check our shit to make sure we weren't shoplifting. None came after a minute, so we went to leave again. The alarm goes off again, and we continue waiting for someone. Another minute goes by and we give up, walking by the gate and ignoring the blaring alarm coming from it behind us as we walk away. We literally could have had anything with us and no one would have stopped us.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;44838669]Target Police lmao. Why are there 3+ police cars seemingly on standby to tackle Target shoplifters? These people sprinting from all around look ridiculous, like there's just tons of people sittign around all day waiting for their call. This would be excessive force here any day of the week. Second video also is great example of the spying/invasion of privacy that is.[/QUOTE] You're in public, you have no privacy in public, we have a camera system at our office and people get upset about it all the time because it's an "invasion" of privacy. In reality you're on someone else's property and that system is there to protect their property, the only reason people get upset about it is because when someone is negligent and backs a fork lift into a $300,000 dollar robot system theirs proof of it and it wouldn't even be necessary if people were just honest.
[QUOTE=Luc1f3r;44863650]You're in public, you have no privacy in public, we have a camera system at our office and people get upset about it all the time because it's an "invasion" of privacy. In reality you're on someone else's property and that system is there to protect their property, the only reason people get upset about it is because when someone is negligent and backs a fork lift into a $300,000 dollar robot system theirs proof of it and it wouldn't even be necessary if people were just honest.[/QUOTE] Yes, or the youtube video where they're spying on people and posting it online because they are jumping around funny or something.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;44865285]Yes, or the youtube video where they're spying on people and posting it online because they are jumping around funny or something.[/QUOTE] then dont be an idiot
[QUOTE=Mister_Jack;44850499]It is justifiable to steal from a corporation. They had to steal something (resources, hard labor) somewhere along the line to make a profit. Therefore it is simply stealing stolen goods. eheh[/QUOTE] mr fat cat business suit man doesn't lose out on his bonus if you steal a flatscreen TV. the people who are actually [I]working in the fucking store[/I] lose out. talk to literally anybody who's worked in retail, they'll back me up.
[QUOTE=Silent_Death;44838860]Most retailers stopped calling it "Loss Prevention" because it it sounds negative and has the idea that, there will be a loss[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm just tired and completely forgot the English language but wouldn't "Loss Prevention" sound more like the [I]prevention[/I] of a [I]loss[/I] of an item from the store or something
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;44838202]What store? It will vary a bit by State but it's mostly up to the retailer to decide. There are many ways to go about it, most retailers prefer to do apprehensions and stops as discreetly as possible to prevent disruption to the sales floor. So you have places like Best Buy who have a strict no-contact policy and are discouraged from actually performing apprehensions and can't leave the store. They prefer to cause a deterrence by putting the AP at the front door where they're visible and scaring shoplifters into ditching product they're trying to steal. Sears, Macy's and Target believe in apprehensions but vary on how they do it. Macy's has all undercover LP and prefer to let shoplifters steal and than apprehend them and prosecute them. They let them use handcuffs and usually use civil demand to get their shit back, sometimes on the spot. Target has a mix. High visibility LP in black dress uniforms with patches and utility belts to deter potential shoplifters and undercover associates to follow around the more determined without spooking them so they can be apprehended. Again with handcuffs. Sears is undercover and has about the same policy as Macy's but they don't use handcuffs, or rather they're discouraged. But they're not as 'soft' as Best Buy for example so they're sort of in between. The specifics of how they do apprehensions varies. For example, it's pretty typical that you can use equal force to physically detain a shoplifter if they resist or endanger others but if it escalates to something like a shoplifter drawing a knife than they want you to disengage and let them go. It honestly depends on policy, but even so these situations can get really intense so sometimes LP bend the rules.[/QUOTE] So a pissed off redneck open carrying a .357 magnum walks out the door with a flatscreen, what do you do? [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;44866376]mr fat cat business suit man doesn't lose out on his bonus if you steal a flatscreen TV. the people who are actually [I]working in the fucking store[/I] lose out. talk to literally anybody who's worked in retail, they'll back me up.[/QUOTE] Nope, the only way you'd notice your store loosing profit is reduced bonuses or when you get laid off. Other than that I couldn't give a shit if someone is stealing a hairdryer because it doesn't effect me at all and gets written off as shrink.
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;44838149]That fuckin dude who just tried walking out with a flatscreen, what was he thinking Did he just assume no one would care?[/QUOTE] Ive seen people that do that where I work its pretty common.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;44866767]So a pissed off redneck open carrying a .357 magnum walks out the door with a flatscreen, what do you do?[editline]21st May 2014[/editline] Nope, the only way you'd notice your store loosing profit is reduced bonuses or when you get laid off.Other than that I couldn't give a shit if someone is stealing a hairdryer because it doesn't effect me at all and gets written off as shrink.[/QUOTE]If you are consistently getting hit for hair dryers ( like 1 or 2 a week) and you can't tell that your inventory is way off and needs to be fixed your store has a bad loss prevention culture. [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] High theft merch changes on a monthly basis. Shouldn't you be running numbers ( checking sales floor vs on hands) to see what boosters are currently hitting.
[QUOTE=Death_God;44850511]you cant really justify stealing id say the only times to ever steal is if its bullshit overcharged stuff like $60-$80 for a t-shirt[/QUOTE] Not even that dude, stealing is stealing. If you're going to a store that sells 60-80 dollars for a t-shirt and can't afford it maybe you should be shopping elsewhere. If you think it is a rip off then go somewhere else.
I knew people at school that would just steal things from the Walmart in town and the k-mart had to close when I was a kid so 2000 or so because the employees were stealing from it so hard
Random question. Have you ever had people stealing lots of Tide? As in the washing detergent. I've read more than a few cases about it being sold on a black market for drugs.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;44866767]So a pissed off redneck open carrying a .357 magnum walks out the door with a flatscreen, what do you do? [/QUOTE] [i]Let him go obviously.[/i] No one needs to die over a $600 TV. Honestly. [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zephyrs;44871179]Random question. Have you ever had people stealing lots of Tide? As in the washing detergent. I've read more than a few cases about it being sold on a black market for drugs.[/QUOTE] I've heard about it. The reason to my understanding was they were reselling it as, well, Tide and not as material for drugs. [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ultra_bright;44866767] Nope, the only way you'd notice your store loosing profit is reduced bonuses or when you get laid off. Other than that I couldn't give a shit if someone is stealing a hairdryer because it doesn't effect me at all and gets written off as shrink.[/QUOTE] Maybe it varies by company but all the retailers I've worked for will give you charts and graphs every week that specifically tell you how much profit they made, profit margin, the shrink, highest shrink areas, if we made sales if we didn't how much we need to make to keep going and how the shrink is effecting us. As a Loss Prevention associate you usually get to see and hear more about the shrink side, naturally. But even the run of the mill associates who run the cash registers and stock boys heard about it. And as for the effect on our hours at Best Buy (go figure the store that let's $10,000 walk out and thinks it's okay) they really did have to cut some hours to make up for losses like that.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;44871374][i]Let him go obviously.[/i] No one needs to die over a $600 TV. Honestly. [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] I've heard about it. The reason to my understanding was they were reselling it as, well, Tide and not as material for drugs. [editline]21st May 2014[/editline] Maybe it varies by company but all the retailers I've worked for will give you charts and graphs every week that specifically tell you how much profit they made, profit margin, the shrink, highest shrink areas, if we made sales if we didn't how much we need to make to keep going and how the shrink is effecting us. As a Loss Prevention associate you usually get to see and hear more about the shrink side, naturally. But even the run of the mill associates who run the cash registers and stock boys heard about it. And as for the effect on our hours at Best Buy (go figure the store that let's $10,000 walk out and thinks it's okay) they really did have to cut some hours to make up for losses like that.[/QUOTE] 10k? Holy fuck, I get pissed when 20-40 dollars gets away. Most of my cases range between $800.00-20,000 dollars though, i like the bigger shit. Lowest case i had was like 300 dollars.
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