Revenge Prank on Height Discrimination from OK Cupid - General

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48604687]When talking about treating another like a human being, race absolutely shouldn't be a factor. When it comes to dating/sexual preferences however, it's a completely different situation. One can't control what they find attractive and what they don't, you can't just say "Be attracted to [I]all[/I] races dammit!" It's not something you can just fix. Having said that it's entirely possible and common for someone to look past another's physical appearance that they find unattractive and fall in love with their personality, but when you're talking about online dating, when you're looking at hundreds of profiles it's completely unreasonable to expect someone [I]not[/I] to discriminate. Nobody can realistically give a chance to every single profile they come across and go on a date with all of them.[/QUOTE] This is all fine on the individual level. I'm not expecting every single person to just be able to become attracted to all races. Again, it's fine that you have your individual preferences, because you have no control over that, whether that be for race, height, weight, etc. What I find wrong is with the picture at large. What I'm saying is that if we were to randomly sample people's racial preference, then ideally we should see that people from each race group have equal dislikes/likes for each other race, not that every single person from every group likes all races. Latino A likes Asians only, while Latino B likes Blacks, while Latino C prefers their own race., etc. Discrimination against other's profiles based on race should be equal for everyone. But it's not that way. Why is it that a white guy has it more likely to be responded to, and that a black man should expect the least amount of responses when messaging somebody? Why is it that Asian women tend to favor white men over men of their own race? If attraction based on race isn't something we have any control over, then does the average human have some innate factor or factors that will predispose them and make them more likely into being attracted to the white race? Are blacks just inherently unnattractive to the average human? Because that's what the data suggests if we are going by that argument.

[QUOTE=Jarokwa;47820741]Managed to watch the entire video, its clearly stated on her profile to only reply if you're atleast 6 feet tall, why even bother if you know you're under that? It's just setting yourself up for disappointment. I mean, I would just move on and find a different chance. Not that these guys are actually in it for the dating though, probably just want some sweet epic ''prank'' videos for youtube.[/QUOTE] why even bother trying to date people with those requirements? you are for some bullshit. And if you only want sex then thats what you are going to find, physical superficial requirements about nothing.

[QUOTE=Mr._N;48605119]What I find wrong is with the picture at large. What I'm saying is that if we were to randomly sample people's racial preference, then ideally we should see that people from each race group have equal dislikes/likes for each other race, not that every single person from every group likes all races. Latino A likes Asians only, while Latino B likes Blacks, while Latino C prefers their own race., etc. Discrimination against other's profiles based on race should be equal for everyone. But it's not that way. Why is it that a white guy has it more likely to be responded to, and that a black man should expect the least amount of responses when messaging somebody? Why is it that Asian women tend to favor white men over men of their own race? If attraction based on race isn't something we have any control over, then does the average human have some innate factor or factors that will predispose them and make them more likely into being attracted to the white race? Are blacks just inherently unnattractive to the average human? Because that's what the data suggests if we are going by that argument.[/QUOTE] I get what you're saying, and I don't know why it is this way, but I don't get what you expect to be done about it beyond trying to force other people to change their individual preferences.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48605180]I get what you're saying, and I don't know why it is this way, but I don't get what you expect to be done about it beyond trying to force other people to change their individual preferences.[/QUOTE] At least get people to actually think and ask themselves why they have the racial preferences they do and that this might be influenced by culture, which actually can be changed if enough people do so, instead of everyoe just being so quick to respond "it's just a preference, not racism!" and just carry on. Everyone should have an equal shot at finding somebody.

[QUOTE=Mr._N;48605214]Everyone should have an equal shot at finding somebody.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that's not going to happen. And that's because people have preferences, and everyone is entitled to that. This whole debate is pointless. You can not change people's preferences, in a short period of time at least. I am shorter than average so that means my "dating pool" is significantly smaller than for those who are taller than me. And I have noticed this countless of times. But I don't give a shit. Likewise I won't date girls who don't attract me. And even though my dating pool is smaller it doesn't limit me to a life alone.

I don't know how I feel about it. On one hand it's pretty bad to just dismiss someone because of their height, but people do have preferences. Doing the same to her in person vs via text is a little different and if the video ended there it would be.. alright I guess. But the part where the dude with the camera jumps out of the car and talks to her and expects her to know who a random dude from the internet isn't cool.

Oh boy, I sure would like to see an H3H3 reaction of this

[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;48605282]Yeah, but that's not going to happen. And that's because people have preferences, and everyone is entitled to that. This whole debate is pointless. You can not change people's preferences, in a short period of time at least. I am shorter than average so that means my "dating pool" is significantly smaller than for those who are taller than me. And I have noticed this countless of times. But I don't give a shit. Likewise I won't date girls who don't attract me. And even though my dating pool is smaller it doesn't limit me to a life alone.[/QUOTE] Yes, again I agree with you that people have preferences and they are entitled to that, as I've stated that in two posts already, and yes I get that you can't just change a person's preference. Maybe I should have said "Everyone should have an equal shot at finding somebody, in terms of race at the very least." I guess what I'm trying to argue is that there's something wrong in [i]the way[/i] that the average person's attraction based on race is influenced, which is clearly through conditioning by today's media and culture that devalues all other races and values the white race as attractive. Attraction based on height or weight is easier to explain and defend from an evolutionary/biological standpoint. But I find it hard to believe that the average human is biologically hardwired and inclined into being attracted to white people.

[QUOTE=Mr._N;48607643]I guess what I'm trying to argue is that there's something wrong in [i]the way[/i] that the average person's attraction based on race is influenced, [b]which is clearly through conditioning by today's media and culture that devalues all other races and values the white race as attractive[/b].[/QUOTE] There's really no evidence to support this. Correlation does not equal causation.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48607662]There's really no evidence to support this. Correlation does not equal causation.[/QUOTE] Well then what explains these disparities in race attraction if it's not conditioning by the media/culture? I'll pose these questions again: Why do we see black men/women getting the least amount of responses when they initiate contact with other races? Why do white men get it more likely to be responded to by women of all the other races, especially Asian women?

Maybe because people are individuals? Who have their own preferences?

[QUOTE=Mr._N;48607734]Well then what explains these disparities in race attraction if it's not conditioning by the media/culture? I'll pose these questions again: Why do we see black men/women getting the least amount of responses when they initiate contact with other races? Why do white men get it more likely to be responded to by women of all the other races, especially Asian women?[/QUOTE] When someone of a certain ethnicity looks for a partner, they'll typically look for someone of the same ethnicity. That's not a cultural or societal thing and it's not caused by the media. It's a basic survival mechanism - you stick with what you know. Then on top of that are applied standards, preferences and fetishes. That's not a surprising thing nor is it dangerous or problematic. Also I'm going to need sources on the "white guys get more attention from non-white women" thing because that sounds a bit pulled out of your bum.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48607863]When someone of a certain ethnicity looks for a partner, they'll typically look for someone of the same ethnicity. That's not a cultural or societal thing and it's not caused by the media. It's a basic survival mechanism - you stick with what you know. Then on top of that are applied standards, preferences and fetishes. [/QUOTE] Yes! I totally agree and this should be the case! I was going to mention this when I talked about attraction based on height. But the data tells us differently: [URL]http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/[/URL] "[B]Black women write back the most. [/B]Whether it’s due to talkativeness, loneliness, or a sense of plain decency, black women are by far the most likely to respond to a first contact attempt. In many cases, their response rate is one and a half times the average, and, overall, black women reply about a quarter more often that other women. [B] White men get more responses. [/B]Whatever it is, white males just get more replies from almost every group. We were careful to preselect our data pool so that physical attractiveness (as measured by our site picture-rating utility) was roughly even across all the race/gender slices. For guys, we did likewise with height. [B] White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively. [/B]These three types of women only respond well to white men. More significantly, these groups’ reply rates to non-whites is terrible. Asian women write back non-white males at 21.9%, Hispanic women at 22.9%, and white women at 23.0%. It’s here where things get interesting, for white women in particular. If you look at the match-by-race table before this one, the “should-look-like” one, you see that white women have an above-average compatibility with almost every group. Yet they only reply well to guys who look like them. There’s more data on this towards the end of the post." [editline]3rd September 2015[/editline] Data from another dating app: [IMG]https://timeglobalspin.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/screen-shot-2013-11-26-at-1-16-38-pm.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=martinshoodie;48603403]And they're back with another cringey video. [video=youtube;W6Zwbj7INEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Zwbj7INEM[/video][/QUOTE] These guys can't be serious.

These guys are so creepy

[QUOTE=Mr._N;48605119] Why is it that a white guy has it more likely to be responded to, and that a black man should expect the least amount of responses when messaging somebody? Why is it that Asian women tend to favor white men over men of their own race? If attraction based on race isn't something we have any control over, then does the average human have some innate factor or factors that will predispose them and make them more likely into being attracted to the white race? Are blacks just inherently unnattractive to the average human? Because that's what the data suggests if we are going by that argument.[/QUOTE] I understand where you're coming from but I think a lot of the data is going to be influenced by the way in which the people met. Online, you have a picture of a person and a few lines they wrote about themselves - naturally, you're going to take the picture more seriously because that's what humans do. When our only point of reference is a photograph and a few lines of text, were going to infer whatever we can and this is where we fall prey to stereotyping. These stereotypes can be racially based, but just as often they're based on physical appearance, hairstyle, facial hair, where a person is from; it's a form of confirmation bias. Now, the reasons why a white man is more likely to be desirable by women of all races, I think, is because of the (yes, racist) 'snap' perceptions of the person; for example, white men are seen to be wealthier while black men aren't. It's an innate problem with online dating because it entirely bases a relationship on a split second decision based on a few pictures. I am willing to bet that most people who express a preference for one race over another would have a very different response if they were seeing that person in the flesh, which is why I think this sort of data, compiled from exclusively online sources, is problematic when extrapolating the conclusion. Such preferences are not [I]racist[/I] in the conventional sense, because they aren't deliberately malicious or hate-fuelled (in most cases) but as you said, those stereotypes will in some cases be based on racist depictions in the media, socialised hatred, that kind of thing - but again, those factors also affect other races and other types of person.

[QUOTE=peterson;47820680]Pathetic. All of a sudden it is racist when someone doesn't want to date a certain color of person? Good lord.[/QUOTE] I don't feel like browsing their channel but its quite probable they have been doing this for a while. In other words its something like part 2 "racist chicks" series. So when they say they found another they might not be talking about the person in this video.

Hitman Agent 47

[QUOTE=peterson;47820680]Pathetic. All of a sudden it is racist when someone doesn't want to date a certain color of person? Good lord.[/QUOTE] It may not be racist in itself but it is a bit silly, some people surprise themselves when they say that then end up falling in love with someone a different colour

The Indian guy is really fucking whiny, i'm not surprised he gets stood up/flaked on so much. I mean if you meet one person who smells like shit he might have doggy poop under their shoes but if everyone you meet smells like shit you just have shit in your underwear EDIT: The description of [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GP4v8Ot8g4]this video[/url] [t]http://i.imgur.com/OYvu1Mq.png[/t] The link takes you to this: [t]http://i.imgur.com/mTthRhD.png[/t] I wonder if there's something about this in YouTube's rules? :^)

'It ain't cool to use guys for money' But it's totally cool to steal intimate pictures and sell them?