[QUOTE=space1;53192420]can we get a source on those last 3?[/QUOTE]
Well, for the last one, he isn't sure whether the role of CO2 has been overemphasized, not that Climate change isn't real or a serious problem.
[media]https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/825871336333574144?lang=en[/media]
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;53192386]Jesus why would he say that lol
Still, I think a lot of people think he's nuts because they take things he says and apply that he actually believes them.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard him say that it's impossible to have adult discussion because people can't entertain thought and introduce ideas without it becoming more about what that person's personal stance and beliefs are as opposed to looking for all the possible contexts and discussing them.
Just because he poses this question, it's silly to automatically think it's something he actually believes.
Watch this to understand why he says its impossible to have actual discussion about topics such as these.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zZRTC6Ecs&t=593s"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zZRTC6Ecs&t=593s[/URL][/QUOTE]
Peterson is deflecting with this constant talk of "you can't hard conversations!" however. He does hold some genuinely fucking awful views about quite a few things, but is capable of flowery wording and carefully picking how he presents these things that he can back out of it.
"haha i just thought it was interesting :~)" has been the fallback of alot of fucking awful right-leaning people as of recent. Plausible deniability about their beliefs is important if they don't want to be ignored instantly.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;53192425]Well, for the last one, he isn't sure whether the role of CO2 has been overemphasized, not that Climate change isn't real or a serious problem.
[media]https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/825871336333574144?lang=en[/media][/QUOTE]
if you actually read the article, it's technically right. CO2 isn't a toxic gas, all it does is keep our planet from getting too hot or too cold, but any fluctuations from the sweet spot that we're in may destroy all life on our planet. nowhere here does he deny that climate change is happening.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;53192330]You seem to have missed the "because they desire brutal male domination" bit there.
I don't remember anyone talking about hijabs, though this single post does show how little you know of the subject in general.[/QUOTE]
Actually I can see how little you know the subject since he is referring to how a lot of feminists are okay with Muslim women wearing hijabs which is something forced by the males. By saying they're cool with it and actually think is great so of course you could imply that means they're okay with male domination of their lives.
But yeah okay take my neutral comment and be an ass about it with "I can tell how little you know". You know what? I can tell how little you know because you went straight into "Jordan doesn't know what he's talking about" because he took a controversial view and followed a path based on how some feminists see the Hijab. Shut up before you say "I don't remember anyone talking about hijbabs" because that's what that comment is about. I can see how little you know and how you lack basic critical thinking skills based off that comment alone.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;53192399]I intended the second image to only be a supporting point. The video above instead very clearly says "I think it's their unconscious desire for brutal male domination"
That's [I][B]no longer [/B][/I]a point that anyone can go "well, maybe he believes it, maybe not, he's just asking questions"[/QUOTE]
So yeah maybe he's stretching a dumb point.
Are you mad he said that about feminists or about Islam?
Cause Islam is blatantly patriarchal if that's the question.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;53192445]Actually I can see how little you know the subject since he is referring to how a lot of feminists are okay with Muslim women wearing hijabs which is something forced by the males. By saying they're cool with it and actually think is great so of course you could imply that means they're okay with male domination of their lives.
But yeah okay take my neutral comment and be an ass about it with "I can tell how little you know". You know what? I can tell how little you know because you went straight into "Jordan doesn't know what he's talking about" because he took a controversial view and followed a path based on how some feminists see the Hijab. Shut up before you say "I don't remember anyone talking about hijbabs" because that's what that comment is about. I can see how little you know and how you lack basic critical thinking skills based off that comment alone.[/QUOTE]
Once again, they weren't even talking about hijabs in the full original conversation, [I]that's something you brought in.[/I] They were talking about how feminism seems to ignore Sharia and radical Islamic terrorism.
And it's still irrelevant because one of the core ideas of feminism is that if a woman wants to wear something, then she can, it just shouldn't be a domination thing which you seem to think the whole issue is about. That's the "you don't know what you're talking about" bit.
I'll be glad to talk to you on critical thinking skills any fucking day of the week, but before that try applying even half a percentage of those skills to what JBP has said.
Selectively thinking critically is dangerous, as we can see from how far the termites have spread.
[QUOTE=space1;53192432]if you actually read the article, it's technically right. CO2 isn't a toxic gas, all it does is keep our planet from getting too hot or too cold, but any fluctuations from the sweet spot that we're in may destroy all life on our planet. nowhere here does he deny that climate change is happening.[/QUOTE]
It's not an article, it's a non-peer-reviewed blogpost by an openly ant-science and anti anthropogenic climate change conservative think-tank. The article itself is by Patrick Moore, who also is openly against anthropogenic climate change.
Don't be stupid, the "CO2 is plant food" and "CO2 is good for us" angle is one of the go-to arguments of these retards.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;53192425]Well, for the last one, he isn't sure whether the role of CO2 has been overemphasized, not that Climate change isn't real or a serious problem.
[media]https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/825871336333574144?lang=en[/media][/QUOTE]
The point is that he shares blog posts by climate change deniers and doubts the science behind it. He's just another 'skeptic' pure and simple.
You don't get to say that "oh he's just not sure, just asking the questions" when he tweets a site whose fucking description is "The Global Warming Policy Foundation is a think tank in the United Kingdom, whose stated aims are to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies" envisaged by governments to mitigate anthropogenic global warming."
[QUOTE=space1;53192420]can we get a source on those last 3? the first one is debatable, and maybe not the entire reason that they support muslims. well, stalin hated the christians for a while, and china makes people who don't follow the state sect of the religion mysteriously dissapear so it's partially true,[/QUOTE]
prehistoric cultures knew about DNA:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb5cBkbQpGY&feature=youtu.be&t=1h45m30s[/url]
Quantum bullshit (consciousness plays an integral role to [I]being[/I] because of quantum physics. Note that he's never studied quantum physics and is just talking shit.):
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCP9mW0GH4&t=21m15s[/url]
Stalin only ever "hated the christians" because he wanted to build up the cult of personality around him, not God. He stopped his anti-religion campaigns in order to rally the country against the Germans. Let's also not forget that Stalin was brought up in seminary in Georgia. That's not "atheism leads to totalitarianism" sorry to say. To back up that statement you'd need to find a state which promotes rational and critical thought over subservience which has turned authoritarian which, to my knowledge, has not yet even existed. Though we're slowly getting there with what is called the first world now.
Ditto with China. It's not a secular state by any means.
[editline]10th March 2018[/editline]
[QUOTE=toastard;53192484]So yeah maybe he's stretching a dumb point.
Are you mad he said that about feminists or about Islam?
Cause Islam is blatantly patriarchal if that's the question.[/QUOTE]
Islam is awful to women, it's a shit religion, in an ideal world it wouldn't exist anymore. Don't know why that even needed clarification.
The point is that he's saying outlandish statements in basically a vlog format with other hard right conservatives. It's not a scientific arena, and [B]NONE[/B][URL="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=jordan+peterson&btnG="] of his academic papers[/URL] come close to talking on the issue of psychological sexual dimorphism.
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Why is this one of the most iconic images from the Occupy Wall Street protests? Why did this cause a national explosion of attention and sympathy for the OWS protest? I mean, the officer was well within his right to pepper spray these people, right? That should be the open and close of it, right?
Except it's not, and on some level you feel in your gut that you [i]know[/i] it's not, even if it is 'legal'. That's what civil disobedience and nonviolent resistance is about. Not this struggle-session shit.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek, but in case there are people on this forum that think the cop was the "bad guy" you should watch this:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y[/media]
And in case people forgot, here's the video that went viral:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4[/media]
I went to school at UC Davis, the only reason why this shit popped off is because of a well-cut video clip and good viral marketing. Nothing to do with morals or "peaceful protesting" or whatever bullshit. Pretty much everyone I knew thought these kids were pricks and deserved to get sprayed
[QUOTE=Kirbychu;53192566]I'm not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek, but in case there are people on this forum that think the cop was the "bad guy" you should watch this:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y[/media]
And in case people forgot, here's the video that went viral:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4[/media]
I went to school at UC Davis, the only reason why this shit popped off is because of a well-cut video clip and good viral marketing. Nothing to do with morals or "peaceful protesting" or whatever bullshit. Pretty much everyone I knew thought these kids were pricks and deserved to get sprayed[/QUOTE]
Unlawful assembly lmao
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