[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;51925443]I usually cook whatever and eat whatever I see in the fridge and binge a lot, I'm not constantly paying attention to every specific thing I eat. I'm not concerned about trying to gain muscle, etc. and I know I don't care how much dangerous amounts of whatever I put into my body because I love food. Is it stupid? Yes, it is, but that shit will catch up to me later on.
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
Did you not read my previous post? I specifically said this and stated it's probably around 2000 (maybe around 3000 on days where I'm hungrier) per day. On days where I feel like it, I will eat up to 5000 or more, god knows how many times I've went to Mcdonalds and ate over 100 chicken mcnuggets, or ate a metric fuckton during an eating contest. I never said I ate 5000 a day EVERY single day, I said at times and kept it at that this entire time, it's annoying when people don't read your previous debates and mess your words around to make it sound wrong. That's why I want this argument to be over already.[/QUOTE]
100s of chicken nuggets? sure thing bro.
Look what you need to do is just count the calories you eat, count them for a week and see how much it is. Right now you're just lying to yourself, You're eating more than I do and I'm 184cm 80kg and lift 5 times a week. I gained 6kg in just a month from 2700-3000 calories diet. Or you got worms in your belly.
[QUOTE=freaka;51925464]100s of chicken nuggets? sure thing bro.
Look what you need to do is just count the calories you eat, count them for a week and see how much it is. Right now you're just lying to yourself, You're eating more than I do and I'm 184cm 80kg and lift 5 times a week. I gained 6kg in just a month from 2700-3000 calories diet. Or you got worms in your belly.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I have worms or I'm really just bulimic, who knows.
Or you just liked telling your friends about your magic black hole metabolism, also bulimia involves voluntary vomiting
[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;51925468]Maybe I have worms or I'm really just bulimic, who knows.[/QUOTE]
i think you'd notice if you induced vomiting after every meal but idk, i'm no doctor
[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;51925443]Removing the rest of this since I am not partaking in this argument anymore.
I'm going to quote this just so people get it, now lets just settle this because as I said earlier, this is going in circles.[/QUOTE]
Unless you have a thyroid problem which is a VERY unusual thing to have, your genetics only make an insignificant difference. The argument is going in circles because you choose to ignore this fact. I used to overestimate what I eat myself, just try counting calories like freaka said and I'm 99% sure you will gain weight.
[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;51925399]I don't know why I would lie about how I eat, and I'm honestly perfectly ok with being skinny and have no desire to gain weight, but I won't argue with you. I still feel like genetics could be a big factor here as even that Japanese woman I posted earlier eats nearly 5000 every single day, hell it's a trend for big eaters in Asia to livestream themselves eating massive amounts of food. Not everyone's body works the same. But I'm tired of debating this since it's literally going in circles and it's quite annoying when you start noticing that no side will actually budge. People are different, and sure I don't pay attention to what I eat, but I don't skip at all even though you're still claiming I do, and I still constantly snack on food, there won't be any exact way I can prove to anyone here how I eat and if people will assume I'm bullshitting, then so be it. There's just far too many variables to even have a perfectly reasonable debate that won't devolve into a shitfest the way I see it (you're already assuming I'm having doubts and stacking numbers when I've still stuck to the same shit since the beginning, I feel like I have to stop you here before things get more heated because usually assumptions will only lead to illogical arguments that only consist of flaming). Lets just keep it at this and end the argument.[/QUOTE]
its honestly more of the fact that you keep insisting on "but we don't [I]really[/I] know because there are 0.001% of people who are extreme outliers and i could be one of them!" when it's clear that you've never tried to test that hypothesis. weighing your food and counting calories every single day, for months, is how you consistently gain weight. just because you might cram in 5000+ calories on the the occasion doesn't mean anything if you're not aware of what you end up actually eating throughout the day.
if you conceded to a point of "alright, i admit it, i don't actually know how to calorie count, so i don't know if i'm doing anything that could cause me to gain weight", then nobody would be miffed. the arguments you brought up were completely of the classic skinny 'high-metabolism' trope, and you stood so confidently behind it that it bothered people who actually know about nutrition. for the record, MaverickIB is fucking ripped and strong AF and has been bulking/cutting for years, he's definitely a guy who knows what he's on about.
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