I lived the NEET life for about 5 months until just a couple of weeks ago when I started a custodial job at my local school district. sitting around browsing the internet and playing the same few videogames every day was boring as fuck I can't imagine doing it for a year or longer
[QUOTE=haloguy234;50426893]
To be honest I don't even know how NEETs can stand their lifestyle. Compared to how my life was before, it's just...so much better now. I can buy my own things. I don't have to rely on NEETBUX from the government or my parents to get what I want. I enjoy the things I used to like more because I'm not spending all day playing the same game or watching anime day in and day out. My life has structure now, which I did not have as a NEET. I still live with my parents because they're allowing me to, and my stepmom and I have a really great relationship now. I don't have to pay rent. Any time my parents ask me for some cash for groceries or whatever, I give it to them no questions asked. To an extent ours is better than what she has with her shitty biological kids.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how NEETs can handle it either. I've pretty much been one for the past month and it's driving me fucking insane. Doesn't help that the job market for a recent university graduate is terrible as is and I live in probably the worst part of Canada for finding any sort of employment.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;50427407]I don't understand how NEETs can handle it either. I've pretty much been one for the past month and it's driving me fucking insane. Doesn't help that the job market for a recent university graduate is terrible as is and I live in probably the worst part of Canada for finding any sort of employment.[/QUOTE]
Woah you're in Cape Breton too??
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50427414]Woah you're in Cape Breton too??[/QUOTE]
Nope, southern Alberta. Which because of the whole drop in oil prices is pretty shit. Even the McDonald's in my town didn't hire me.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50427378]Honestly, the wife needs to shut the hell up. She is basically burning any chances of keeping the situation on any level of safe sanity. The father may be hardassing it, but honestly when you have a situation where a wall is erected infront of any chance or offer you make, it's bound to leave any point of "happy joy joy".
Even in the end, without the wife, you can still see the father trying his hardest to state that the kid needs to get his shit in order, and the father realizes that their is something seriously wrong that requires a parental figure to wrest control of the situation.[/QUOTE]
the son clearly needs an attitude adjustment, but he isn't going to get it in such a fucked up environment as his parents are collectively causing
he's a hothead who has absolutely no interest in trying to understand the son
he sounds like such a whiny baby the way he screams at his wife/gf/whatever
his solution is to just drag the guy away from all his computers "cold turkey" as he says it
he's coming from the right place but doesn't realize how abrasive and controlling that is, and how it isn't the right way to bargain with the "neet" or convince him to try harder
the mother is clearly onto something; she only started yelling after he exploded at her for trying to convince him to handle the situation differently
unless the father figure adjusts his attitude, the son never will
[QUOTE=haloguy234;50427370]It's a board full of sentient, mentally ill robots with obsessive compulsions over amphibians who don't know how to socialize and are generally a literal waste of space.
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[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/azglxg.webm[/vid][/QUOTE]
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEE
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;50427347]Because like I said, it's quite obvious that he's already irritated with the wife before the video started, and more irritated when she's interrupting him for trying to confront his son.
You don't call the guy bipolar just because he had a different attitude for his son and his wife.
A person with bipolar disorder suffers from periods of depression and elevated mood [U]uncontrollably[/U] regardless of the context of his life.[/QUOTE]
its not just that he's arguing back but the way he does
he immediately goes into hysterics
the first five minutes i was thinking it wasn't that bad, then it got profoundly uncomfortable when the guy in the room started crying
it is an extremely bad lifestyle but holy shit this was the worst way to go about to try and solve it.
i've pretty much lived the neet life since I failed my welding course a couple of months ago. its nice for a while, but i'm starting to feel like I should be doing something more than just play video games all day, and browse 4chan.
i wish i could start welding again, but the schedule simply broke me.
If you think he is that way by choice you are retarded he is locked in his room having panic attacks while family stresses to hell. He needs mental health care
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50427358]Semi-unrelated but, what in the hell is /r9k/ anyway?
Every time i hear about it or peer inside it seems like terrible, terrible shit.[/QUOTE]
r9k is a board that employs the r9k algorithm.
It was designed by the XKCD IRC peeps to get rid of useless drivel like 'i kno rite'.
[url]https://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/[/url]
Basically, it forced people on 4chan to be original since they couldn't post memes because they'd be banned if they did. And as if it's natural to 4chan, it turned to shit.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;50427370]
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/azglxg.webm[/vid][/QUOTE]when mommy gives you a scary toy instead of your chicken tendies
My god, I hate the person talking to him so much. This made me feel so uncomfortable, it doesn't help that he has the same name as me. The whole causing stress thing is a start, having somebody like that in your doesn't need to be stressful, (I've seen it not be) typically the 'adult' (the supporter) in the situation creates the stress by being difficult and creating conflict where nobody wants it. It doesn't help at all that (if that thread was right) it wasn't his real dad, because having suffered from depression (never been a NEET) I know that it's very easy for somebody who isn't a biological parent to be a real arse about the whole thing.
Cutting off the internet, taking laptops etc is just cruel in this situation, like it doesn't change anything it just makes their life worse. Which hoo-fucking-ray, you can't solve a problem by making people miserable and leaving it at that. It's not 'not enabling them' it's just making it harder for them to function on a basic fucking level.
I'm friends with multiple NEEts and I have to say that it's disingenuous to assume they're just lazy arseholes, in no way would being anything but reasonable (that is, not shouting, not taking shit away, you know? Being a normal fucking human being) would help that situation. One friend has a degree that could get him a job, but he's autistic and frankly comes across as a stupid arsehole 90% of the time so it's not really working out for him. It's true his parents enable his lifestyle a bit, they're quite wealthy, but it hardly feels like his fault, I've seen first hand that he simply can't function socially like we can. An other friend, who I have much more sympathy for, is OCD and has lots of other issues in that kind of area. The path his life took means he's finished education and came out of it with nothing of value, he can't function in a normal workplace because of his issues and he's said it himself, he's just fucked. I feel so bad for him because he's a great guy, he's one of my best mates. His mum can't help him get off his feet in any way too because his family is financially fucked since his mum has spine issues and can't work, and his dad fucked off and disappeared leaving them with no money or support. He doesn't enjoy the way he lives, he feels so trapped and frustrated.
But the people I know, have nice and understanding parents. Whatever their thoughts on how their kids live, they know that shouting and being an arsehole, or punishing them for it won't solve anything at all. My friend's mum, the second friend, has gone out of her way to help him get jobs doing things like dog walking, house sitting, gardening and stuff in the village. It's not much but you can tell he's much happier when he's doing work, and it brings a little bit of money into the house too. What she does, that is being nice and accepting, then trying to get him to do little odd help around when it's available, is much better than screaming at him and literally dragging him a job center where he won't get a job.
Say whatever, the thoughts in the YouTube comments make me sick, but in my opinion the parents are in the wrong here. Later in they just stand outside screaming at each other while the guy has a fucking panic attack. I feel like every single NEET story where the parents get fed up start with this fucking quote:
[QUOTE]he/she didn't seem to understand why I was that way[/QUOTE]
Everyone should be allowed to do what they want to do within reason. Like, I've heard stories of people who will work for a couple months, save every dime and than use it in a very strategic way (only buying literally oatmeal, using the savings to pay rent, internet and nothing else) and live locked up for almost a year at a time if possible.
If that's what they want to do, I don't see why not. It's whatever. It's when people get like, parasitic it is an issue.
Like if I could stay home all day and never leave I would be completely content never leaving me room, playing games, watching movies and shit and just laying around. But I would never just become a total burden on my family so I work. I pick jobs that are like super reclusive ones that don't deal with a ton of interaction with the public but in this way I can fund my own lifestyle and live how I want.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50428654]Like if I could stay home all day and never leave I would be completely content never leaving me room, playing games, watching movies and shit and just laying around. But I would never just become a total burden on my family so I work. I pick jobs that are like super reclusive ones that don't deal with a ton of interaction with the public but in this way I can fund my own lifestyle and live how I want.[/QUOTE]
It's good you can't/won't then, because in my experience NEETs are never content with their life but instead feel completely trapped and frustrated or just don't have the emotional intelligence to see the damage they're doing.
I've known multiple NEETs over the years and a few of them have even been happy to be as such. Personally I lived as a NEET for only a few months and was bored out of my mind after a while.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50428654]Everyone should be allowed to do what they want to do within reason. Like, I've heard stories of people who will work for a couple months, save every dime and than use it in a very strategic way (only buying literally oatmeal, using the savings to pay rent, internet and nothing else) and live locked up for almost a year at a time if possible.
If that's what they want to do, I don't see why not. It's whatever. It's when people get like, parasitic it is an issue.
Like if I could stay home all day and never leave I would be completely content never leaving me room, playing games, watching movies and shit and just laying around. But I would never just become a total burden on my family so I work. I pick jobs that are like super reclusive ones that don't deal with a ton of interaction with the public but in this way I can fund my own lifestyle and live how I want.[/QUOTE]What type of reclusive jobs do you do?
[QUOTE=bradleigh;50428749]What type of reclusive jobs do you do?[/QUOTE]
3rd shift security is pretty nice for being reclusive. Other than my co-workers I don't interact with more than an average of 5 or 6 people every week. It would probably be even less if I wasn't working at a University with students living on it.
[QUOTE=bradleigh;50428749]What type of reclusive jobs do you do?[/QUOTE]
First job was a stocking shelves at like 3AM - 7AM at Target.
But since than I've been doing Loss Prevention jobs. Which ironically enough kind of takes you in the opposite direction because now I chase shoplifters and fight with herion addicts on a daily basis.
Getting into verbal and physical altercations with drug addicts does wonders for your social anxiety.
But most of the time you sit in a camera room and fuck around and no one bothers you which is good too.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50428835]Wow how did the parents let it get this bad? I'll never understand the whole "NEET lifestyle" probably because at 16 I was told to get a job or i'd have no luxuries. As in, get a job, or we'll flip the breaker for your room and lock the breaker box.
So I did. 8 years later I'm pretty thankful that they did that, it forced me out of my shell and made me significantly more sociable.[/QUOTE]
Not everybody is you.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50428860]Never said they were. I'm just wondering how parents can just let their kids sit around and do fuck all with their lives.
And then the kid is shocked when they're 26 (and have done nothing with their lives) and their parents lose their fucking minds against them.
I mean at some point it boils down to parenting, or rather, the lack their of.[/QUOTE]
Read my above post, it's not always as simple as "just get a job" and "if they don't just cut off their stuff".
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I feel like the issues that face a NEET are similar to those that face people with mental health issues: stupid people act like they're not there just because they're invisible.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50428892]I'm well aware of this, and again you're trying to oversimplify what i'm saying.
So i'll spell it out.
What parent (in their right mind) doesn't give enough of a fuck about their kid to notice that they've become a shut-in (essentially). Why does it always seem to be "kid turned mid 20's and parents lost their fucking mind on them".
It seems to me that the whole "NEET" phenomenon occurs because of parents simply saying "what ever, they'll figure it out".
Yes there are legit reasons to have problems leaving the home, but videos like this show a complete lack of actual parenting, up until the parents are fed up with their kid and try to cram 10 years of parenting into a 5 minute screaming session.[/QUOTE]
Ok then, we're in agreement, the parents are being nuts. We're not in agreement on why NEEt is a thing. But yeah, I'm not sure how taking away stuff from someone like that would benefit anyone.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;50428870]Read my above post, it's not always as simple as "just get a job" and "if they don't just cut off their stuff".
[editline]31st May 2016[/editline]
I feel like the issues that face a NEET are similar to those that face people with mental health issues: stupid people act like they're not there just because they're invisible.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ stop trying to justify this dumb and irresponsible lifestyle choice
"but they feel sad and have social anxiety :("
are you kidding me? why is this accepted now? should he not deal with his emotional problems when he's the one that fucking instigated them? there is absolutely no reason to be a NEET other than by selfish, conscious choice.
stop trying to legitimize people who make bad life decisions.
[QUOTE=Melnek;50428921]there is absolutely no reason to be a NEET other than by selfish, conscious choice.[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not bad decisions sometimes just sorta spiral out of control, it's not necessarily a "selfish, conscious decision".
[QUOTE=Melnek;50428921]jesus christ stop trying to justify this dumb and irresponsible lifestyle choice
"but they feel sad and have social anxiety :("
are you kidding me? why is this accepted now? should he not deal with his emotional problems when he's the one that fucking instigated them? there is absolutely no reason to be a NEET other than by selfish, conscious choice.
stop trying to legitimize people who make bad life decisions.[/QUOTE]
Empathy is pretty cool. Like if you make an attempt to understand a situation then maybe you can make steps to remedy it.
[QUOTE=Melnek;50428921]
"but they feel sad and have social anxiety :("
are you kidding me? why is this accepted now?[/QUOTE]
because not everybody lacks basic empathy
[QUOTE=Melnek;50428921]jesus christ stop trying to justify this dumb and irresponsible lifestyle choice
"but they feel sad and have social anxiety :("
are you kidding me? why is this accepted now? should he not deal with his emotional problems when he's the one that fucking instigated them? there is absolutely no reason to be a NEET other than by selfish, conscious choice.
stop trying to legitimize people who make bad life decisions.[/QUOTE]
Except some people, me being one of them, do suffer from hefty mental health issues. Mix that with living in a shitty area or having a destructive family and it's very easy to slip into this state.
Believe it or not most NEET don't choose to live that life and people like me literally hate it even when we're in that scenario.
I am lucky in the fact that I've never stopped giving up but there are some people who have no hopes and nothing to hang on to so they become comfortable in the lifestyle because they feel like they don't have a chance or a choice. As everyone said it's basic empathy.
I'm a NEET right now, honestly. With my father's passing last year and my brother having moved in earlier this year (after eight years of irresponsibly handling himself and his girlfriend to the point that their living space should've probably been fucking condemned), it's just the latest in the long string of having been NEET since I graduated high school in 2011.
Turned 23 two weeks ago and i'm still just wasting away, unsure of what to do with my life, and too ingrained in a 'safe zone' here to really want to do much or get much drive. I help around the house with chores and especially with the dog, but I barely know how to actually cook food which isn't helped by my aspergers causing heightened physical sensitivity that makes me go nuts from any higher or lower than normal temperatures. I don't even have a driver's license yet, and my sensitivity made me avoid taking proper care of my hygiene.
being a NEET sucks but when it's a really bad case, you just can't really figure out a way to get out of it, especially if your family member's daily jobs wear them out so much that they rarely have time to really even consider helping you out of it (combined with your built-up instinct to resist getting out of the comfort zone)
I've been off-and-on NEET since graduating highschool. I've had this pattern of getting work, saving up, getting laid off, fired, or outright quitting because of how bad things get, using all of my savings on bills and food while trying to find more work, and repeating. I cannot save a goddamn dime because of this unfailing pattern of work> unemployed for a month> work. My only real hope right now is that I will eventually land a job that isn't min-wage trash, has decent employees, and doesn't get rid of me after half a year because they just didn't need me.
Why do you call someone a "NEET" when he's looking for a job? It basically sounds like "worthless human being" which probably doesn't make things better. Not everyone is a [QUOTE=haloguy234;50426893]
[B]filthy, disgusting NEET.[/B][/QUOTE] just because they're looking for a job.
I got treated like one too, when I was looking for a job and I realized how fast people change their behaviour towards you.
Most people think you're living a happy life and have infinite vacation time when you don't have a job, but it isn't like that.
I felt like shit, was doing everything I could to live a normal life again but still got treated like nothing because apperantly, you're worthless when you don't work.
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