Amazing TED talk about gender issues - General

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;40563521]1.) Because I'm not an obnoxiously liberal, women studies major. 2.) Because I have better things to do than claim everything's sexist. 3.) Because I don't feel the need to justify my shortcomings by ranting about "Patriarchy." 4.) Because the idea of privilege is a fucking joke. 5.) Because online social justice is just one big form of ego stroking. 6.) Because said social justice people consist 80% of fat dykes, and 20% men with aspergers. 7.) Because Max falls into the latter half, except with even more spaghetti. 8.) Because die cis scum. 9.) Because you guys have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever. Is that enough?[/QUOTE] Keep going, I'm almost there [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/ShareX/2013-05/2013-05-08_00-09-28.png[/img]

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;40563521]1.) Because I'm not an obnoxiously liberal, women studies major. 2.) Because I have better things to do than claim everything's sexist. 3.) Because I don't feel the need to justify my shortcomings by ranting about "Patriarchy." 4.) Because the idea of privilege is a fucking joke. 5.) Because online social justice is just one big form of ego stroking. 6.) Because said social justice people consist 80% of fat dykes, and 20% men with aspergers. 7.) Because Max falls into the latter half, except with even more spaghetti. 8.) Because die cis scum. 9.) Because you guys have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever. [/QUOTE] Someone's got a chip on their shoulder... Seriously though, one legit criticism I have of some feminist theory is that it gives me the impression that some feminists believe that when a woman expresses any aspect of an established sexist attitude it's entirely because of societal pressure from men and therefore she's not responsible, but when a man expresses any aspect of an established sexist attitude it's entirely down to himself and he's a bad person for it Dunno if i'm just misinterpreting something somewhere down the line, but that just seems illogical to me

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40563654]Keep going, I'm almost there [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/ShareX/2013-05/2013-05-08_00-09-28.png[/img][/QUOTE] 10.) Because every time any aspect of feminism gets criticized, you assume the person is a MRA. 11.) Because you guys make fedora jokes thinking you're witty. 12.) Because every single major feminist I've met on facepunch ended up being a sperg. 13.) Because you guys never shut the fuck up. 14.) Because you guys think "spreading awareness" means "complain about shit all day everyday." 15.) Because I've yet to see a single significant impact that online feminism has had. 16.) Because apparently everything is sexist and misogynistic. 17.) Because fuck you. I hope you get castrated by a bear. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming, again" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;40563872] 12.) Because every single major feminist I've met on facepunch ended up being a sperg. [/QUOTE] Please stop

i still want to know what we did to make him so gosh darn angry

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40563654]Keep going, I'm almost there [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/ShareX/2013-05/2013-05-08_00-09-28.png[/img][/QUOTE] Thats pretty lame.

"this isn't a war of the gender" The speaker than goes on and says that all gender violence is caused by men. After that comment though, he made some good points. I honestly though can't get myself worked up on this subject or into it really. Both sides say some serious stupid shit now and than, and I simply have better things to do, i think both genders will reach a level of equality if we keep advancing at the way we do. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DinoJesus;40563872] 17.) Because fuck you. I hope you get castrated by a bear. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming, again" - Craptasket))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Well... that got out of hand quickly.

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;40563872]10.) Because every time any aspect of feminism gets criticized, you assume the person is a MRA. 11.) Because you guys make fedora jokes thinking you're witty. 12.) Because every single major feminist I've met on facepunch ended up being a sperg. 13.) Because you guys never shut the fuck up. 14.) Because you guys think "spreading awareness" means "complain about shit all day everyday." 15.) Because I've yet to see a single significant impact that online feminism has had. 16.) Because apparently everything is sexist and misogynistic. 17.) Because fuck you. I hope you get castrated by a bear.[/QUOTE] what are you doing

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40564168]Thats pretty lame.[/QUOTE] it's pretty accurate

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40565429]it's pretty accurate[/QUOTE] You could make one about guys and call it accurate as well, its easy when you just use comments you have seen around the internet.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40565513]You could make one about guys and call it accurate as well, its easy when you just use comments you have seen around the internet.[/QUOTE] that is about guys?

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40565513]You could make one about guys and call it accurate as well, its easy when you just use comments you have seen around the internet.[/QUOTE] the MRA movement is redundant to hell and back, and people will legitimately use some of the (bad) logic showcased in that picture to present an argument of some kind

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40565529]that is about guys?[/QUOTE] What I meant was, the one Max showed was about guys to feminism/women, I meant you could make one that was about women/feminists to guys. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ownederd;40565542]the MRA movement is redundant to hell and back, and people will legitimately use some of the (bad) logic showcased in that picture to present an argument of some kind[/QUOTE] I wont disagree with that, but you are counting an entire group out because of some idiots which is wrong. There are idiots in both the feminist movement and mens rights movement.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40565573]What I meant was, the one Max showed was about guys to feminism/women, I meant you could make one that was about women/feminists to guys.[/QUOTE] except the MRA movement is basically just a half-assed fan fiction of feminism in reality

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40565573]What I meant was, the one Max showed was about guys to feminism/women, I meant you could make one that was about women/feminists to guys. [/QUOTE] I'm sure that you could cherry pick quotes from very extreme deranged 'feminists' and make one, but the fact is that the foundation of feminism is valid, that is establishing equal political, social and economic rights for women in a world where the balance is skewed towards men. Whereas the [b]foundation[/b] of men's rights activism is wrong - statistically society favours men in almost all walks of life. Therefore Men's rights activism is a bunch of scared, bitter men trying to maintain a societal inequality. You can't say 'oh there are complete mentals on both sides man, don't judge' when the [b]foundation and ideology at the very basest level[/b] of men's rights activism is completely wrong. It's like saying 'yeah you can say al-qaeda is more extreme than the US government but there are extremists on both sides man' - the thing is al-qaeda's main goal is the destruction of america and all judeo christian philosophy, the act of which is objectively morally wrong and hence no-one subscribing to that philosophy aren't exactly credible. Plus just like MRAs, al-qaeda is barely an actual movement, consisting of scared extremist compared to something coherent like the US government. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] Basically I'm saying in a roundabout way that men's rights activists are dumb because men's rights activis[b]m[/b] is dumb

umm feminism is dumb and wrong for the following reasons 1) women don't like me and are therefore stupid bitches 2) feminists constantly remind me of the above reason and that makes me angry 3) straw feminists are actually real 4) what about the men? 5) you're all dumb and i'm smart checkmate feminazis

i agree gestapo i don't even know why we care about women and their rights at all they're so strange and different from us normal people

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40564168]Thats pretty lame.[/QUOTE] i guess you would think that as it pigeonholes you pretty well, hm?

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40559118] [B]Big ass list[/B] As long as people can tell your gender, there will be a predator who thinks that how you express your gender is a sign that you'd make a good victim.[/QUOTE] Be honest Max, how often does this happen? I know girls who wear manly clothing and I have never heard them say that they've been told to learn their place. It's not the 1940's anymore, women have rights, (nearly all) men accept that. Same thing with the other examples, you're generalizing more than the femanazi's out there who think "all men are dogs". I'll agree that many people would consider a female wearing little to nothing as being sluttish though. Also if she's wearing a power-suit, she's clearly not an easy victim. I think she'd punch a hole in a guy's chest with that. Do you see Samus being an easy victim? [I]With the other M maybe[/I], but since we're on a discussion of [U]decent[/U] video games, Samus is clearly not the "go to place to see a victimized female in action"

[QUOTE=minilandstan;40569105]Be honest Max, how often does this happen? I know girls who wear manly clothing and I have never heard them say that they've been told to learn their place. It's not the 1940's anymore, women have rights, (nearly all) men accept that. Same thing with the other examples, you're generalizing more than the femanazi's out there who think "all men are dogs".[/QUOTE] he was talking about rape

I feel feminism would be taken much more seriously if it weren't for misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". I watch these kind of informative videos and I'm all like, "Power to you, fight for what you believe in". But then, some cunts mock and laugh about a guy that got his balls cut off by some psycho bitch, and all of that feminist respect just evaporates for some reason. Let's face it. Both genders can be assholes at times. Maybe we should stop focusing on the bad people and start praising the good ones.

[QUOTE=V12US;40569216]I feel feminism would be taken much more seriously if it weren't for misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". I watch these kind of informative videos and I'm all like, "Power to you, fight for what you believe in". But then, some cunts mock and laugh about a guy that got his balls cut off by some psycho bitch, and all of that feminist respect just evaporates for some reason. [/QUOTE] does this happen?

[QUOTE=V12US;40569216]I feel feminism would be taken much more seriously if it weren't for misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". I watch these kind of informative videos and I'm all like, "Power to you, fight for what you believe in". But then, some cunts mock and laugh about a guy that got his balls cut off by some psycho bitch, and all of that feminist respect just evaporates for some reason. Let's face it. Both genders can be assholes at times. Maybe we should stop focusing on the bad people and start praising the good ones.[/QUOTE] The guy was an abusive cunt who abused his wife to the point where she did what she did, she wasn't a bitch. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] If it's this guy you're talking about, at least. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt[/url]

[QUOTE=V12US;40569216] misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". [/QUOTE] wow beep boop this is the cliché police you've gone past the "I have black friends" point

[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;40569242]The guy was an abusive cunt who abused his wife to the point where she did what she did, she wasn't a bitch. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] If it's this guy you're talking about, at least. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt[/url][/QUOTE] Ohh, in that case it's A-OK. [QUOTE=Onirik;40569266]wow beep boop this is the cliché police you've gone past the "I have black friends" point[/QUOTE] I have no black friends anyway.

[QUOTE=V12US;40569216]I feel feminism would be taken much more seriously if it weren't for misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". I watch these kind of informative videos and I'm all like, "Power to you, fight for what you believe in". But then, some cunts mock and laugh about a guy that got his balls cut off by some psycho bitch, and all of that feminist respect just evaporates for some reason. Let's face it. Both genders can be assholes at times. Maybe we should stop focusing on the bad people and start praising the good ones.[/QUOTE] uhm, Sharon Osbourne and her cackling posse aren't feminists dude.

[QUOTE=V12US;40569216]I feel feminism would be taken much more seriously if it weren't for misandrist lesbians abusing these movements to lash out at men for the sake of "girlpower". I watch these kind of informative videos and I'm all like, "Power to you, fight for what you believe in". But then, some cunts mock and laugh about a guy that got his balls cut off by some psycho bitch, and all of that feminist respect just evaporates for some reason. Let's face it. Both genders can be assholes at times. Maybe we should stop focusing on the bad people and start praising the good ones.[/QUOTE] There will almost always be ridiculous, idiotic people in every single movement and you can't do anything about that other than ignoring or questioning them. If you can't see past those people you are just being naive. [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] and what Thaard said; I don't even think Osbourne & co might label themselves as a feminist group. But if they had then surely they aren't in the first place anyway. Just forget about them or give feedback or something

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40561736]fucking what? so you're angry that people have challenged a status quo that might not be exactly fair, I suppose you're just in denial about how your hobby might not be as friendly as universal as you think[/QUOTE] Hey newsflash bud, I dont care if my hobby is not [B]friendly[/B] or [B]universal[/B]. This might surprise you in this "Big bang" culture we are in right now, But I am a real nerd With no social skills. This is my escapism, I get to go to a place where my appearance and thought process is not relevant. I am intensely sorry if the only thing I yearn for is to save a woman from a castle and feel accomplished for ten minutes out of my shitty life. before I have to turn off my computer and venture into the bright and shity real world where people like you berate me for rape or beatings that I would have never condone. So i am sorry if I pissed you off by expressions my anger talking about this toxic situation/trend that seems to be spreading like a chia pet on speed. Yes, that hole in the ground is preeeeettty appetizing right now.

[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;40568512]i guess you would think that as it pigeonholes you pretty well, hm?[/QUOTE] You are an idiot if you think I hate feminists and that bingo card applies to me lol.

[QUOTE=moop900;40570302]Hey newsflash bud, I dont care if my hobby is not [B]friendly[/B] or [B]universal[/B]. This might surprise you in this "Big bang" culture we are in right now, But I am a real nerd With no social skills. This is my escapism, I get to go to a place where my appearance and thought process is not relevant. I am intensely sorry if the only thing I yearn for is to save a woman from a castle and feel accomplished for ten minutes out of my shitty life. before I have to turn off my computer and venture into the bright and shity real world where people like you berate me for rape or beatings that I would have never condone. So i am sorry if I pissed you off, talking about this toxic situation/trend that seems to be spreading like a chia pet on speed. Yes, that hole in the ground is preeeeettty appetizing right now.[/QUOTE] what are you even babbling about