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Thats just disrespectful
Wind turbines generate fuck all electricity so I'm all for keeping nuclear.
[QUOTE=Jackald;34670921]Fucking environmentalists killing those poor poor cooling silos :'([/QUOTE]
You mean hippies.
geothermal energy is the best in my opinion, atleast for canada it's the next step
....But Power Plants are part of the green answer :v:
[QUOTE=Jackald;34670921]Fucking environmentalists killing those poor poor cooling silos :'([/QUOTE]
The fuckers
And little do people know that wind turbines were never thoroughly tested and since they were mass produced suddenly they didn't know the possible effects on wildlife or long term exposure to people who live near them. (Everybody wanted them because no one wanted big honkin power plants polluting the air/water/environment).
I'm not sure how much it's been looked into but there have been reports of bats dropping dead (supposedly the vibrations make them blind and they can't hunt for their food so they starve to death). Certain people (no proof of legitimacy) have reported headaches, cancer, etc. Headaches I can believe, because it's a constant low frequency sound, but cancer? What doesn't give you cancer these days...
Solar Panels have no issues, though they are more costly to plug into the grid. Wind Turbines are cheaper, but I don't think they provide as much energy as solar panels (you could argue the wind doesn't stop at night time though).
So with all of the options for energy we have, they all have their downsides. In the end it's a matter of what can produce the most amount of energy with the least amount of required space.
how could you possibly get cancer from a wind turbine that's ridiculous
Sexy cooling towers
[QUOTE=Cuel;34676291]how could you possibly get cancer from a wind turbine that's ridiculous[/QUOTE]
Being part of the crew manufacturing them.
But that's the only way i can see that happening, and that can be solved with proper safety regulations.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;34674788]And little do people know that wind turbines were never thoroughly tested and since they were mass produced suddenly they didn't know the possible effects on wildlife or long term exposure to people who live near them. (Everybody wanted them because no one wanted big honkin power plants polluting the air/water/environment).
I'm not sure how much it's been looked into but there have been reports of bats dropping dead (supposedly the vibrations make them blind and they can't hunt for their food so they starve to death). Certain people (no proof of legitimacy) have reported headaches, cancer, etc. Headaches I can believe, because it's a constant low frequency sound, but cancer? What doesn't give you cancer these days...
Solar Panels have no issues, though they are more costly to plug into the grid. Wind Turbines are cheaper, but I don't think they provide as much energy as solar panels (you could argue the wind doesn't stop at night time though).
So with all of the options for energy we have, they all have their downsides. In the end it's a matter of what can produce the most amount of energy with the least amount of required space.[/QUOTE]
I like the idea of solar, they built a huge solar panel farm near me and it powers just about every house in the area easily, granted its much more expensive to set up but probably better in the long run.
[QUOTE=mac338;34656492]Remove the faces and make the parts with the power plant look more dystopian.
Then you have a successful ad.[/QUOTE]
It'll be a retro Apple style advertisement than.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8[/media]
This is obviously supposed to be symbolic of the Russian Revolution. The towers are the bourgeoisie that are torn down and replaced with new, at first seemingly effective, but soon discovered less-effective wind turbines. Obviously.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;34674788]And little do people know that wind turbines were never thoroughly tested and since they were mass produced suddenly they didn't know the possible effects on wildlife or long term exposure to people who live near them. (Everybody wanted them because no one wanted big honkin power plants polluting the air/water/environment).
I'm not sure how much it's been looked into but there have been reports of bats dropping dead (supposedly the vibrations make them blind and they can't hunt for their food so they starve to death). Certain people (no proof of legitimacy) have reported headaches, cancer, etc. Headaches I can believe, because it's a constant low frequency sound, but cancer? What doesn't give you cancer these days...
Solar Panels have no issues, though they are more costly to plug into the grid. Wind Turbines are cheaper, but I don't think they provide as much energy as solar panels (you could argue the wind doesn't stop at night time though).
So with all of the options for energy we have, they all have their downsides. In the end it's a matter of what can produce the most amount of energy with the least amount of required space.[/QUOTE]
Offshore wind-farms are a lot better though, Britain recently got one that powers 300,000 homes and other than seagulls I can't see how it would disrupt wild-life around it (other than a few seagulls)
It's possible sea critters would be affected though.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;34685537]Offshore wind-farms are a lot better though, Britain recently got one that powers 300,000 homes and other than seagulls I can't see how it would disrupt wild-life around it (other than a few seagulls)
It's possible sea critters would be affected though.[/QUOTE]
I agree, offshore wind farms are much better than land based ones but you have to remember that it's far more costly to put a windmill on the water. They need to reach the bottom (which we have our limits with how far we can go) and there is always a threat of high level water disrupting the mills (strong storm, or even tsunami). Seagulls would probably avoid the wind mills after a while, and since they only stay in the water for food, it's unlikely they would nest on one of these things. It's possible, but not likely.
And the low frequency hum the mills produce may or may not have an effect on sea wild life. I wouldn't imagine the vibrations would be able to travel very far (since water is much thicker and harder to travel through than air).
Windfarms would make a nice supplement to nuclear plants, but as stated, one cannot simply replace a whole nuke plant with a handfull of turbines.
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