idk lads maybe it's a conscious choice to have it washed out because all of the soldiers there are horribly depressed and are basically already dead and just waiting for it and if it was vibrant and stuff it would go against the general tone of the film
but seriously if it really bothers you that much then idk lmao, i didn't notice it at all until you pointed it out
EDIT: I mean you're using examples of great uses of colour in film, but isn't that exactly what Dunkirk is doing? Using colour? The lack of colour is using it. Not everything has to be neon.
Interested to see what Nolan can do with a war movie. Not what I would expect from him based on his earlier movies, but they trailer definitely has me intrigued.
movie looks okay, but i like kenneth branagh and cillian murphy so i'll most likely see it.
i'm not gonna bitch about the color, but it's on a beach on a cloudy day, and it looks to me like nolan shot in natural light.
I wonder if its going to be rated PG-13 or R. I think most of Nolan's recent movies, including one's with violence have all been PG-13.
If there's not much large scale fighting and its more about psychological issues I don't think it matters too much, but if there's big fights, I'd feel the constraints of PG-13 would make it feel a bit artificial.
[QUOTE=Derp123213;51528602]Did that lad just drown himself at 0:50?[/QUOTE]
I'd lay money on him attempting to swim to a ship in the channel. Alot of men attempted it, many sadly did'nt make it.
Also, there is many films i want to see this year, but none of them I want to see as badly as this. For the love of god please be good.
I'm not so good with WWII history. What happened at Dunkirk?
[QUOTE=nerdster409;51529870]I'm not so good with WWII history. What happened at Dunkirk?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=nerdster409;51529870]I'm not so good with WWII history. What happened at Dunkirk?[/QUOTE]
Long story short, a crap ton of allied soldiers were surrounded in the coastal city of Dunkirk during the apex of the Battle of France. In order to evacuate manpower that was too invaluable to let simply fall in German hands, because it was simply impossible for a battle to come out in victory for them, they organised and rallied virtually every single ship, from the royal navy to rowboats to evacuate as many men as humanly possible. The evacuation is considered a success, as a majority of these men were evacuated, but tens of thousands fell, and virtually all of the equipment had to be left behind.
Lol at this color correction talk.
Reminds me of this bullshit AP European history question a teacher gave us on a random quiz that read; "World War 1 was "Black & White" and World War 2 was first war in color. True or False?"
[QUOTE=Egevened;51528812][IMG]http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/09/31/63478385999719/0/bat-science-realistic-are-batmans-gadgets-dark-knight-rises.w1456.jpg[/IMG]
there is a lot of color here. the environment, the suit, etc is dark, but there are very deep reds and yellows and blues in this image. it does not have any crushed blacks
[IMG]http://itcher.com/mag/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Julia-McCullough-The-Prestige.jpg[/IMG]
the movie has yellow color grading, but it's a stylistic choice and the contrast looks great, you can make out all the colors as they are not lost beneath the color correction
[editline]14th December 2016[/editline]
did nolan fire someone that told him how to make movies look good[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen anyone complain about these sorts of things until that Marvel video
My great grandfather was at Dunkirk and was shot like 4-5 times and kept fighting until he was evacuated.
[QUOTE=markfu;51529247]I wonder if its going to be rated PG-13 or R. I think most of Nolan's recent movies, including one's with violence have all been PG-13.
If there's not much large scale fighting and its more about psychological issues I don't think it matters too much, but if there's big fights, I'd feel the constraints of PG-13 would make it feel a bit artificial.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Nolan hasn't made an R rated movie in over 15 years, but I really hope it's rated R anyway. I can't think of a single good war movie that's rated PG-13 because you honestly can't capture the brutality of war with those restrictions.
[QUOTE=Novangel;51530414]I haven't seen anyone complain about these sorts of things until that Marvel video[/QUOTE]
It's almost like once something's been pointed out to you in detail, you start using that knowledge in your daily life
[QUOTE=nerdster409;51529870]I'm not so good with WWII history. What happened at Dunkirk?[/QUOTE]
Britan and france declare war on Germany, weeks go by where fuck all happens and they set up for another static war with trenches and shit, Germany on the other hand decided 'Fuck that noise, we'll just go through this 'impassible' forest in belgium that you've left largely undefended, and we'll just flank everything with tanks and stukas, aka blitzkrieg.
Britian left the RAF in the UK, so there was no real aircover over France to stop the luftwaffe, British and French had no idea how to deploy tanks so they got fucked. Long story short, France was a lost cause the day German jackboots stepped on french soil, it became the largest scale rescue mission ever. Britians entire land army (as in the professionally trained one) was in France, it needed them back or it was GG for Western Europe. France and other Allies had the same remit, live to fight another day.
We fought a valliant fighting retreat to the coast holding off the tactically superior force for as long as possible with dwindling supplies, food, water and sanitation. It was a litteral hell on earth and it was looking bleak, we'd lost the harbours so boats couldnt get in close, the weather was fucked which made it worse, there was very minimal aircover from the RAF (lack of fuel to stay over the channel for long), which meant ships were sitting ducks off the coast for the Luftwaffe to bomb at their leisure. The situation was all kinds of fucked.
Then for one reason or another the Germany army stopped advancing, couldnt beat the defenders, it outrun it's supply line, they were tired, hoped to force a surrender to save lives or hoped to let the luftwaffe destroy us. There's lots of credible reasons, but it's mostly a combiantion of the lot.
What ever the reason was, the time that was bought allowed us to commandeer a flotilla of sea going vessles from river barges to fishing trawlers in combination with destroyers and cargo ships to get the fuck over to france and resuce as many souls as they could, 330k Allied soldiers got out of Dunkirk, around 550k from France overall. It litterally kept Britian in the war and the inability to make us fold made sure the axis had to fight on numberous fronts.
A pretty big moment in history. Thats the short and small of it.
[QUOTE=Novangel;51530414]I haven't seen anyone complain about these sorts of things until that Marvel video[/QUOTE]
the marvel video brought the issue to the surface, but that discredits my own personal opinion how?
Looks good, I am excited. Always nice to see more things with a British focus.
[QUOTE=Egevened;51531650]the marvel video brought the issue to the surface, but that discredits my own personal opinion how?[/QUOTE]
It brought issues to a [i]specific[/i] problem to the surface. That video was about Marvel making their super hero movies look drab compared to the their comicbook counterparts vivid use of colors. The creator of that video even went on to say the color corrections depend on what movie you're making.
This is a World War II movie that appears to be going for a specific tone. If the movie uses it correctly is yet to be seen but nitpicking a trailer for its washed out colors without seeing if it served its purpose in the overall movie is dumb.
[QUOTE=OutLawed Blade;51532159]It brought issues to a [i]specific[/i] problem to the surface. That video was about Marvel making their super hero movies look drab compared to the their comicbook counterparts vivid use of colors. The creator of that video even went on to say the color corrections depend on what movie you're making.
This is a World War II movie that appears to be going for a specific tone. If the movie uses it correctly is yet to be seen but nitpicking a trailer for its washed out colors without seeing if it served its purpose in the overall movie is dumb.[/QUOTE]
Color grading ought to be a subtle thing imho, I seriously hate how every piece of war media goes for this 'old school washed out' look, it's nitpicky but I really feel like it kinda dehumanizes the events in a way. I feel like raw, realistic colors go a long way towards letting you feel immersed in the situation, rather than feeling like 'oh it's an old war film type thing'
[editline]15th December 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;51532260]how is this going to ruin an entire movie for you
there's a *lot* more to a movie than just color grading, hell, even in the visual department there's a lot more than that
you need to get laid my dude[/QUOTE]
This is the opposite of a constructive post
man im sure glad that im colorblind, you guys are weird.
If the color grading is your issue, couldn't you just pop the disk in your PC (when it comes to DVDs that is) and change the colors in whatever video player you're using? Can't be that difficult
[QUOTE=Egevened;51529074]
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“Ah you think piss filter is your ally? You merely adopted the yellow. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the unedited version until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!”[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://puu.sh/sQcvm/552a51e044.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Egevened;51528843]never said anything about ruining, but how professional nolan considers himself to be he should know better than to resort to washed out colors just because its ww2 lmao
[img_thumb]http://cdn1.themovienetwork.com/sites/themovienetwork.com/files/fury_8.jpg[/img_thumb]
pictured - how colors in 1940 real life probably looked like[/QUOTE]
As a color timer who typically leans towards more naturalistic color I have no complaints about the grade on this one. You can grade wrong and totally destroy the detail and/or betray the tone of your movie, but it seems like the palette suits the tone, with all the browns and muted blues.
Also protip, that image is heavily color graded and nowhere near what the "natural" color of that scene was like. I dunno maybe you just like the color blue or something.
[editline]15th December 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Novangel;51530414]I haven't seen anyone complain about these sorts of things until that Marvel video[/QUOTE]
A video that sort of misses the point on all fronts to boot.
wonder if the film will even mention the french defenders
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;51532910]wonder if the film will even mention the french defenders[/QUOTE]
I was wondering that myself. The whole reason there was time for the flotilla to evacuate all those men was because of what was left of the French army dug in and held back the Germans.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;51532488]As a color timer who typically leans towards more naturalistic color I have no complaints about the grade on this one. You can grade wrong and totally destroy the detail and/or betray the tone of your movie, but it seems like the palette suits the tone, with all the browns and muted blues.
Also protip, that image is heavily color graded and nowhere near what the "natural" color of that scene was like. I dunno maybe you just like the color blue or something.
[editline]15th December 2016[/editline]
A video that sort of misses the point on all fronts to boot.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that video was garbage.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51533514]I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that video was garbage.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that video is pretty fucking arrogant and gets so much wrong. Like spending most of the video pinning the blame on the cameras and complaining about the fucking black levels.
And then there's this bullshit.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/HSEKRE2.jpg[/img]
[i]Just tweak the curves and make everything orange and green, perfect! I am a master color grader![/i]
It's one of those things you never notice until someone points it out and then suddenly you can't stop seeing it, for me anyway.
That being said, I'm looking forward to this film regardless of the colours.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;51533896]Yeah that video is pretty fucking arrogant and gets so much wrong. Like spending most of the video pinning the blame on the cameras and complaining about the fucking black levels.
And then there's this bullshit.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/HSEKRE2.jpg[/img]
[i]Just tweak the curves and make everything orange and green, perfect! I am a master color grader![/i][/QUOTE]
There's a reason why that guy isn't in the industry and making critique videos on youtube
I thought this trailer was honest to god boring. Didn't get me excited for anything or give me an interest in anyone who played in it.
[QUOTE=Egevened;51528843]never said anything about ruining, but how professional nolan considers himself to be he should know better than to resort to washed out colors just because its ww2 lmao
[img_thumb]http://cdn1.themovienetwork.com/sites/themovienetwork.com/files/fury_8.jpg[/img_thumb]
pictured - how colors in 1940 real life probably looked like[/QUOTE]
Pictured - a shit movie
I dare say the screenplay, direction and and acting are of far more importance to the film than MUH COLORS
and FWIW, this is the same DP as interstellar, so that is why it looks that way not because "its ww2 lol"
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