Anita Sarkeesian bullshitting about how it feels to be a gamergate target - General

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;46946108]Fuck I feel like a fool. I didn't make a stupid viral video in the 2006 times to get youtube money, I didn't start a le epic scream-team lets play channel around 2010, and I haven't made $150,000+ being a total phony on the internet while seeming like a sword wielding progressive hero to uninformed people. Maybe next time![/QUOTE] Well you know the age old saying. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute]"There's a Sucker born every minute."[/url]

She's a damn good con artist, would love to see the day where everything is thrown at her face.

heh [img]http://i.imgur.com/k8dMywb.png[/img]

Didn't make it to the end cause my brain started to hurt from this bullshit. That Gta example though pissed me off the most: "[I]And if that's not enough, you have the option to run her over..[/I]" I mean what the fuck, are the devs supposed to turn every female character into a indestructible solid object? And what about the male characters.. are they supposed to be run over? I can't get her fucking point.

[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;46945677]Her Woman vs Tropes in videogames made 159k. Feminist Frequency also runs up a donation page [URL="http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/"]http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/[/URL] wherein they ask for donations and also ask for monthly donations of 5$, 10$, 15$, 25$. Not only that but I would dare say that with how Anita acts that when asked for an interview or something else that would give her publicity she would also ask for a little money on the side to make it "Beneficial" for her appearance, since she's a "Professional Victim".[/QUOTE] Didn't Jonathan McIntosh say that non profit organizations are all evil? Yet they run one themselves.

[QUOTE=Higurashi;46946239]I mean what the fuck, are the devs supposed to turn every female character into a indestructible solid object? And what about the male characters.. are they supposed to be run over? I can't get her fucking point.[/QUOTE] I like how Anita basically said that women are displayed as disposable objects and that's an issue, but massively gunning down men and thus [B]them[/B] being disposable is not an issue.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;46944458]A lot of plastic surgery, she's trans.[/QUOTE] She looks like a deflated fugu fish trying to breathe out of water

[QUOTE=uber.;46946299]I like how Anita basically said that women are displayed as disposable objects and that's an issue, but massively gunning down men and thus [B]them[/B] being disposable is not an issue.[/QUOTE] It's because we are desensitized towards violence against men. Men go to war, men go to boxing, men are most often armed criminals, so if men use guns against other men, it is nothing new, we see it everywhere every day. There's also a notion that men are expendable. Is it right? Not really. But the thing is that right now we are in a transition phase where we are pushing gender equality but at the same time we still see women as fragile and innocent so violence against women is a lot more impacting than against men. That and many "feminists" want equality without responsibility so each time their positive stereotypes are questioned, they throw a fit. "We want equality" often followed by "But I'm a girl" from these kind of people. And these biased ones get a lot of support because who doesn't want more rights with little responsibility?

[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46945937]This is a breakdown of the nightline video, and also shows how she knows several fraudsters and pretty much admits that she's doing it for money [video=youtube;NXOhN2u5wtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOhN2u5wtY[/video][/QUOTE] To be honest, this guy is talking a lot of BS to the point that he sounds like any conspiracy nut, just for the sake of contradicting EVERY point of the ABC video. Especially the part about the armed escort and the the massacre. Yes, she does arrive in an armed transport and it was not staged just for ABC news. She gets a lot of threats and the police offers her protection for public events because they take these threats seriously, she on the other hand sees this as good promotion for her and continues to play her role. He also clearly points out that there are games specificly marketed for male gamers and female gamers, this makes it even worse, this guy has NO IDEA what he's talking about, he actually makes the whole thinng even worse and underlines the crap the whole feministy anti-games wave is all about. While any sane persons point should be: "Women and Men in GTA V are represented the same way, none of them is worse or better represented, the given freedom by the game leads to players doing gruesome things such as killing unarmed female or male civilians, which does not represent the ideology or story of the game at all." his point is: "Killing Women in GTA V is okay because Women don't play GTA V since it's CLEARLY marketed to the male audience." Seriously, don't give this guy any attention, he's part of the reason why we still have to deal with Anita. I hope TotalBiscuit will say anything on this matter soon because he has valid points and a more objective perspective on this matter.

Damn I wish I could play the victim for a living too. [editline]16th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Higurashi;46946239]Didn't make it to the end cause my brain started to hurt from this bullshit. That Gta example though pissed me off the most: "[I]And if that's not enough, you have the option to run her over..[/I]" I mean what the fuck, are the devs supposed to turn every female character into a indestructible solid object? And what about the male characters.. are they supposed to be run over? I can't get her fucking point.[/QUOTE] Her target audience is people who know nothing about videogames and will take everything she say as golden.

just gonna point out how it's fine for men to be killed in the masses but one woman being harassed is inhumane

probably going to get dumbs here but while she's playing it up for more than it is, she has seen her fair share of bullshit. a lot of people are sending one person stuff like she's a big corporation.

Guys the more and more Anita gets coverage like this, the better. Please just remember growing up in the past 15 years and hearing ALL the time by some random fuck you had no idea about telling you how bad you are for playing games and how they are the devil. The majority knows just how full of shit Anita is and the type of bullshit she throws around, the ONLY reason it seems like she gets so praised is because you only hear about her "good" from sources already circlejerking it for her. The more times she gets onto primetime TV, the more and more random nobodys will see her and realize just how fucking full of shit she is. This always happens, she wont last. Shes dug her hole SO fucking deep for anyone that does research on her now, shes way too public for people not to dig up more shit either. Fucking John Mcintosh has mental breakdowns daily now. The majority of people arnt sitting their agreeing with her on GTAV, instead they are like "Jesus fuck this persons a fucking idiot" Just how you used to think Anita like people were like back in the day.

[QUOTE=Slimmy;46946532]probably going to get dumbs here but while she's playing it up for more than it is, she has seen her fair share of bullshit. a lot of people are sending one person stuff like she's a big corporation.[/QUOTE] I don't think anybody here is saying she actually deserves the harassment she does get. The problem is her twisting them and using them as ammunition to further her own agenda.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;46946612]I don't think anybody here is saying she actually deserves the harassment she does get. The problem is her twisting them and using them as ammunition to further her own agenda.[/QUOTE] I know I should feel bad for this, but I do think she deservs most of the harrassment she gets. Cashing in on lies and bullshit is bad.

Okay as far as getting called a moron and being called out on her bullshit, maybe. Death and rape threats? No.

Spam/Misleading

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;46946648]Okay as far as getting called a moron and being called out on her bullshit, maybe. Death and rape threats? No.[/QUOTE] A very small percentage of people that disagree with her decided death and rape threats were the way forward, unsurprising those people only fueled her point and proved to further her agenda. Morons that take disagreeing with her to the extreme only helped her.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;46946648]Okay as far as getting called a moron and being called out on her bullshit, maybe. Death and rape threats? No.[/QUOTE] Of course, those death and rape threats are borderline retarded, I wasn't talking about those. I'm not THAT messed up.

The video of the women playing CS at about 5:30ish was a bit worrying, but in everyone's defense she was playing casual which is commonly known for where a lot of fairly toxic and nasty people lurk (regardless of gender). Plus they very likely cherry picked it and even then the chat and such were blurred out, you even hear another guy say 'stop spamming' during the clip. And of course there is always the possibility she was faking it judging by her movement, crosshair placement, weapon choice and the fact that we never saw her in a fight.

[QUOTE=DMGaina;46946435]He also clearly points out that there are games specificly marketed for male gamers and female gamers, this makes it even worse, this guy has NO IDEA what he's talking about, he actually makes the whole thinng even worse and underlines the crap the whole feministy anti-games wave is all about.[/QUOTE] No. There are genres that ON AVERAGE are played by MEN and genres that ON AVERAGE are played by WOMEN. He didn't say ANYTHING about marketing. There is EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE of this. The only reason he brought it up is because ABC for some reason saw fit to come up with the bullshit statistic trying to prove that there's more women playing GTA than men. [QUOTE=DMGaina;46946435] his point is: "Killing Women in GTA V is okay because Women don't play GTA V since it's CLEARLY marketed to the male audience."[/QUOTE] What the fuck? No he doesn't. You're putting together two points about two completely different things. That has NOTHING to do with gender, it's consumers from one side of the gaming industry market trying to dictate what is ok for the other side to enjoy. The fact that the "opposite" market is mainly composed by women is a connection that YOU alone have made. [QUOTE=Chi_DE;46946639]I know I should feel bad for this, but I do think she deservs most of the harrassment she gets. Cashing in on lies and bullshit is bad.[/QUOTE] She most certanly doesn't deserve it but she's not exactly trying hard to prevent it. Hell can you blame her? Offer me a monthly 150k contract to get called a dickhead on twitter a couple of times a day and I'll sign up in an instant

[QUOTE=Craptasket;46943411][img]http://i.imgur.com/6dD3Rv0.png[/img][/QUOTE] #facegate

[QUOTE=Rossy167;46946708]The video of the women playing CS at about 5:30ish was a bit worrying[/QUOTE] Care to elaborate? This is normal for any unmoderated anonymous community. Is it good? No. But it's not unusual, everyone's a creep on the internet. I don't think there's much you can do without starting to nazi police communities. [QUOTE=Rossy167;46946708]but in everyone's defense she was playing casual which is commonly known for where a lot of fairly toxic and nasty people lurk[/QUOTE] Competitive is just as bad if not worse. If you are doing bad you will get shit on hard. If you're not a woman, they will find something else to call you instead of a bitch slut. [QUOTE=Rossy167;46946708]Plus they very likely cherry picked it[/QUOTE] Knowing CSGO, doubt it. This is fairly common occurrence. Flaming and verbal abuse in CS is very usual, especially if you are matched with Russians or elitists.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;46945848]I'm just sad that Anita didn't take a less-radical way into this sort of thing. If she had started simply talking about what we could change in games to make them more diverse, then nobody would be at each other's throats like we are now.[/QUOTE] It wasn't Anita's decision. She just went with what Jonathan McIntosh wanted to do. Not that I'd really expect her to run things much differently than he does.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;46946843]Care to elaborate? This is normal for any unmoderated anonymous community. Is it good? No. But it's not unusual, everyone's a creep on the internet. I don't think there's much you can do without starting to nazi police communities. [/QUOTE] The video of the women playing CS at about 5:30ish was a bit worrying - I am worried if this is the norm, but don't believe it is. I'm more worried about how horrible a lot of cs players are, regardless of what gender you are. [QUOTE=itisjuly;46946843]Competitive is just as bad if not worse. If you are doing bad you will get shit on hard. If you're not a woman, they will find something else to call you instead of a bitch slut. [/QUOTE] That just tells me that even in your opinion the toxicity isn't really directed towards women, if these people chose a guy they'd be just as disgusting, they'd just say different things. [QUOTE=itisjuly;46946843]Knowing CSGO, doubt it. This is fairly common occurrence. Flaming and verbal abuse in CS is very usual, especially if you are matched with Russians or elitists.[/QUOTE] Flaming and verbal abuse in CS is pretty usual, but I've never seen it directed at a women because they're a women. Anecdotal of course, just my experience. [QUOTE=Rossy167;46946708] And of course there is always the possibility she was faking it judging by her movement, crosshair placement, weapon choice and the fact that we never saw her in a fight.[/QUOTE] I presume you chose to ignore my last statements because you don't have a counter? Admit it, her movement, weapons and crosshair placement were as if she'd been playing the game for a matter of minutes, plus there were no fights at all.

[QUOTE=Rossy167;46946891] Flaming and verbal abuse in CS is pretty usual, but I've never seen it directed at a women because they're a women. Anecdotal of course, just my experience. [/QUOTE] That's fine but you either got into really good communities or haven't played with diverse people. I've seen asians, blacks, women, not to mention white CIS males, all get shit talked, using whatever they can get as fuel like race, nationality, anything else. No one is spared in that matter. Not even the "privileged" white gamer. [QUOTE=Rossy167;46946891] I presume you chose to ignore my last statements because you don't have a counter? Admit it, her movement, weapons and crosshair placement were as if she'd been playing the game for a matter of minutes, plus there were no fights at all.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's because I wasn't referring to her in particular. It could be fake, it could be not, that doesn't matter much when this shit happens a lot day to day. Creating a CSGO flaming compilation would take you a day at most.

Fun Fact I'm the "Male Gamer" Making the jokes in CS:GO It was all in good fun, I was obviously putting on a voice and fucking around. They also cut a fair amount, one scene in which I start pretending to white knight her and she plays along with it Also they cut the fact I joked to and with everyone in the server, nobody was spared. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2skzv5/i_was_playing_csgo_and_made_it_onto_abc_news/[/URL] Kinda shows you how manipulative the media is in some cases, either way I made it onto the news with a pick up line through csgo

Mainstream news media is a joke.

[QUOTE=timbo59;46947122]Fun Fact I'm the "Male Gamer" Making the jokes in CS:GO It was all in good fun, I was obviously putting on a voice and fucking around. They also cut a fair amount, one scene in which I start pretending to white knight her and she plays along with it Also they cut the fact I joked to and with everyone in the server, nobody was spared. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2skzv5/i_was_playing_csgo_and_made_it_onto_abc_news/[/URL] Kinda shows you how manipulative the media is in some cases, either way I made it onto the news with a pick up line through csgo[/QUOTE] You stirred up the white knights. [QUOTE=some dumbass redditor]Yeah, this isn't funny at all... I'm not trying to be on a high horse or anything and obviously I didn't see the whole video but clearly she wasn't finding it funny. There is a huge differences between "OMG ITS A GRILL!" and that shit. Too bad they didn't publish your name so everyone would know who this pos is. Doesn't matter who your playing with, if the person who youre poking fun at doesn't also find it funny, stop otherwise its just being a dick and a bully. I"m sure all the teeny boppers will downvote cause being a dick seems to be cool in this community. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;46946648]Okay as far as getting called a moron and being called out on her bullshit, maybe. Death and rape threats? No.[/QUOTE] I'm not defending the people sending death/rape threats. But honestly, what do you expect when your message can be summed up as "women good, men expendable?" How the fuck did she think the males in gaming were going to react? Send her a bouquet of roses? Nah, she'd probably consider THAT harassment too. Again, this doesn't make spamming death and rape threats ok, but I can certainly see why a good number of males would have Anita at the top of their shitlist.