[QUOTE=Jamsponge;49606307]Reminds me of that picture of the (World War I?) soldier whose entire front face was blown off, including his entire mouth being wide open. Somehow they managed to give him a serviceable face, despite presumably using 100-year-old procedures. It's fucking incredible what life can survive from.[/QUOTE]
Do you by any chance got a link to this? Sounds super interesting to read.
That is a very good dog and I want to pet it a lot.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49609400]This reminded me to make this little PSA: If you ever find yourself with a maggot-infested wound, absolutely under no circumstances remove the maggots. The maggots are keeping the wound from getting worse.
I am reminded of a guy that tried to scoop the maggots out of his wound and it's like dude, you just killed yourself.
The health benefits of maggots in necrotic wounds cannot be overstated, but generally they're thought as something unseemly or disgusting that must be gotten rid of. I feel like this is a harmful attitude.
[editline]26th January 2016[/editline]
Maggots are only now being appreciated again as first-line debridement. Sometimes the only thing standing between you and amputation is maggots.
maggot slime is one of the only known things that can kill MRSA
I just noticed that this video says the dog's face was destroyed by the maggots. No, the dog's face was destroyed by a skin infection. The maggots probably saved its life.[/QUOTE]
what do the maggots do if not eat the away at the flesh?
[QUOTE=Rusty100;49609459]what do the maggots do if not eat the away at the flesh?[/QUOTE]
Maggots only eat dead/necrotic flesh. By getting rid of them you're basically increasing the risk of more flesh rotting
this is fucking amazing tbh
i wonder what happened to the dog that even got him to that point
[QUOTE=coyote93;49609847]Poor fucker. Just imagining worms crawling under my skin gives me shivers.[/QUOTE]
well technically it's not crawling under your skin because at this point that area no longer has skin.
Maggot therapy is a good thing and likely kept the dog alive but iirc the maggots need to be sterile, and too many maggots can also result in healthy tissue being eaten
Good on the dog though, gaping wounds are always horrendous to look at, lest a maggot infested one - I'm amazed the healed face looks just fine
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49609400]This reminded me to make this little PSA: If you ever find yourself with a maggot-infested wound, absolutely under no circumstances remove the maggots. The maggots are keeping the wound from getting worse.
I am reminded of a guy that tried to scoop the maggots out of his wound and it's like dude, you just killed yourself.
The health benefits of maggots in necrotic wounds cannot be overstated, but generally they're thought as something unseemly or disgusting that must be gotten rid of. I feel like this is a harmful attitude.[/QUOTE]
and also fucking around in a gaping wound with your bare hands would hurt like SHIT
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;49609520]Maggots only eat dead/necrotic flesh. By getting rid of them you're basically increasing the risk of more flesh rotting[/QUOTE]
Actually this may be false. It depends on the maggot really. Some will only eat the dead flesh, or some will eat living and dead flesh all the same. Not to mention some can carry some pretty bad diseases. In general though it's probably best to leave them in because even if they do eat your living flesh, most will still secrete the useful slime.
[sp]I cannot fucking believe I learned something from Blowfly Girl[/sp]
Ill add onto this maggot stuff because a lot of you guys have a good understanding of wound care, but sort of give the maggots too much credit.
So the maggots are great because they eat necrotic tissue, which denies a lot of bacteria infections the opportunity to take hold, but at the same time, they are hurting as theyre not really driving the wound forwards into a proliferation stage, it just lines you up for that. It also cuts back on a lot of the grunt work of the initial wound care, since there won't be any necrotic tissue, you'll have good wound margins to begin with. They're also going to cause a lot of pain, and irritation.
So someone said earlier not to remove them because it wound mean certain "death" or deterioration of the wound thats not true. If you removed maggots from a wound, all you're getting back is a semi-clean wound, thats not certain death, thats sort of what you want to begin with when it comes to rehabbing these things. You'll be sitting around a class 2 or 3 wound (class 4 is literal shit spilling out of your abdomen, and without maggots it would be a class 4). Long as you actually treat it within a reasonable amount of time (4 hours), you wont see any negative affects to removing them. Long as you wash it out with saline and bacitracin (literally is what is in neosporiin OTC), than pack it so you dont create any "dead spaces" or cavities in the wound than you'll be on your way to healing.
The wound in the video is far from the craziest you can bounce back from, the large area and tissue involved isnt the biggest concern, the biggest one is exposed bone. If you get an infection that incorporates bone (osteomyelitis), it gets pretty bad, because it has the opportunity to easily become a systemic issue, and management of it is crazy hard from what ive heard.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49610794]
[sp]I cannot fucking believe I learned something from Blowfly Girl[/sp][/QUOTE]
Oh my god why did I google that.
[QUOTE=SpartanApples;49611047]Oh my god why did I google that.[/QUOTE]
I...need to watch some puppy videos to get my mind off of this. Glad the dog made an amazing recovery though.
[QUOTE=Shotz;49608459]Jesus fuck I wasn't prepared for his before pic, that's some brutal stuff.
So glad to see the recovery tho.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't prepared for the after pic, I just skimmed through it and couldn't believe he managed to keep a functioning left eye.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;49612018]i googled it, read "chunks of meat" somewhere and noped the fuck out[/QUOTE]
[sp]basically a girl shove chunks of meat that have maggots on them into her vagina because she gets off on that sort of thing, and then she has to go to the hospital because she put maggots in her vagina[/sp]
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49613806][sp]basically a girl shove chunks of meat that have maggots on them into her vagina because she gets off on that sort of thing, and then she has to go to the hospital because she put maggots in her vagina[/sp][/QUOTE]
what
Is this a real thing or just some fucked up fiction? Neither would surprise me sadly.
[QUOTE=LSK;49613902]what
Is this a real thing or just some fucked up fiction? Neither would surprise me sadly.[/QUOTE]
The story itself may have been dramatized, but it's real. This woman had a blog where she updated on her life every now and then.
Honestly the truly amazing thing here are the people who took care of him and treated him, the loving and kindness is off the fucking charts.
[QUOTE=27X;49605395]This is actually probably why he made it.[/QUOTE]
How does that even work?
if this happened to a human would they be able to regrow their face in a similar way?
or would they just end up looking super fucked up
The comment section for this video is the worst thing ever :v:
It's filled with:
"How did the eye reappear?????"
"This is a miracle by god"
"I'm literally going to murder whoever pressed dislike"
[editline]27th January 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kebab;49617263]if this happened to a human would they be able to regrow their face in a similar way?
or would they just end up looking super fucked up[/QUOTE]
Modern plastic surgery is pretty great, but not perfect.
We're very good at seeing deformities in human faces, because we spend a lot of time looking at faces. It would be pretty obvious that something was wrong.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49609400]This reminded me to make this little PSA: If you ever find yourself with a maggot-infested wound, absolutely under no circumstances remove the maggots. The maggots are keeping the wound from getting worse.
I am reminded of a guy that tried to scoop the maggots out of his wound and it's like dude, you just killed yourself.
The health benefits of maggots in necrotic wounds cannot be overstated, but generally they're thought as something unseemly or disgusting that must be gotten rid of. I feel like this is a harmful attitude.
[editline]26th January 2016[/editline]
Maggots are only now being appreciated again as first-line debridement. Sometimes the only thing standing between you and amputation is maggots.
maggot slime is one of the only known things that can kill MRSA
I just noticed that this video says the dog's face was destroyed by the maggots. No, the dog's face was destroyed by a skin infection. The maggots probably saved its life.[/QUOTE]
This is true to an extent, but don't forget medical maggots are bred in sterile environments, bagged and used in sterile bandages where the necrotic tissue just needs to be cleaned out. A random wound getting infested with maggots out in the open is not really a great situation to be in, because while the maggots might leave the healthy tissue intact, they carry a lot of bacteria on and around them so they are simply going to infect more and more tissue and eat more and more. So yes removing the maggots from your wound when you are trapped in the rain forest might kill you quicker, but leaving maggots in a cut when you have the option to seek medical treatment is stupid and dangerous. Wild maggots are not an approved therapy.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;49609459]what do the maggots do if not eat the away at the flesh?[/QUOTE]
they don't eat healthy living tissue
[QUOTE=Fetret;49617395]This is true to an extent, but don't forget medical maggots are bred in sterile environments, bagged and used in sterile bandages where the necrotic tissue just needs to be cleaned out. A random wound getting infested with maggots out in the open is not really a great situation to be in, because while the maggots might leave the healthy tissue intact, they carry a lot of bacteria on and around them so they are simply going to infect more and more tissue and eat more and more. So yes removing the maggots from your wound when you are trapped in the rain forest might kill you quicker, but leaving maggots in a cut when you have the option to seek medical treatment is stupid and dangerous. Wild maggots are not an approved therapy.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to assume we're talking about a scenario in which you don't have access to medical care or even a way to call for help.
...Because normally I don't think many of us ever will for example sleep in the soil with open wounds away from society.
Personally my goal is to stay my whole life in reach of emergency services.
[QUOTE=AK'z;49621067]they don't eat healthy living tissue[/QUOTE]
Depends on the maggots.
And even if they technically don't eat living tissue, they still spread infections and diseases which create more living tissue for them to eat.
There's a reason why maggots used in the medical field are specially prepared and not just scooped out of a nearby carcass and thrown at a necrotic wound.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49624496]
There's a reason why maggots used in the medical field are specially prepared and not just scooped out of a nearby carcass and thrown at a necrotic wound.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, the first image that came to mind was someone just getting a handful of maggots and throwing them at someone on a hospital bed going "OH GOD THIS IS SO GROSS" and then running out of the room
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49624633]I'm sorry, the first image that came to mind was someone just getting a handful of maggots and throwing them at someone on a hospital bed going "OH GOD THIS IS SO GROSS" and then running out of the room[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a decent reality show
[QUOTE=Talishmar;49624480]I'm going to assume we're talking about a scenario in which you don't have access to medical care or even a way to call for help.
...Because normally I don't think many of us ever will for example sleep in the soil with open wounds away from society.
Personally my goal is to stay my whole life in reach of emergency services.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. What I meant was maggots in wound = bad unless specifically put there by medical professionals.
Even out in the open away from all medical services trying to keep the wound clean and dry, bandaging it is much healthier than keeping it open and crawling with maggots just because you heard somewhere online that maggots in your wound is helpful. And if you are going around with an infested wound when you can access medical care you are just being stupid.
God that music is annoying.
I wish I could hear the dog at the end, it;s pretty heartwarming just seeing how happy it is
The family dog that i spent half of my age with just passed away last week, so this made me tear up pretty good.
But seeing the little guy so happy and full of life after recovering from something that horrible...
That was absolutely fucking amazing.
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