[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;51566807]A President that was extremely nationalistic to the point where it was detrimental to France itself. In your quote it literally says Now, there isn't anything inherently wrong with the bolded part obviously, but are you seriously saying that their mission statement couldn't be misused in any way so as to show minorities in an exaggeratedly bad light to promote French "values", more specifically to promote nationalism as has been seen in the States?[/QUOTE]
There's absolutely nothing wrong with French values followed within France, whatever they may be, and convey them throughout the world. As long as it's not some racist agenda and it doesn't seem to be the case.
If 'minorities' (immigrants, specifically) don't follow and respect said values, they should be made aware they're not welcome. In this particular case it appears that the value in question is gender equality. Quite frankly, if someone just out of the blue decides that women aren't welcome in their establishment citing culture, they should absolutely be boldly told point blank that their culture is degenerate shit and no one is going to respect it. You want 'like home' - go home, crawl back to your shithole and get fucked.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51566842]Yeah it could but the burden of proof false on you. You made the claim they aren't legitimate, you even go as far to suggest they could be financed and controlled by foreign nationals. Now back it up.[/QUOTE]
Love this response, such an easy cop-out.
I am only raising the point that people should not take these things so easily at face value. Even in the US there is no undeniable evidence(yet) that Trump's campaign was effectively run by Putin, yet every major US intelligence agency has said with certainty that it was.
Not everything has to have proof to have value, especially if that proof is essentially impossible to obtain. Well, that is apart from me getting a recording of Putin or some other crony explicitly confirming what I have said. It is always worth raising an opposing dialogue to any topic. Why else do you think state-run propaganda is so effective?
If I wanted to go to France I would want to visit its culture and enjoy its history.
Not a fucking village of assholes with tradition sticks so far up their backsides that they get to hit other people with it.
France is no longer France now... It's so sad and maddening. I can understand wanting to leave your country and finding a better life but this...
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;51567932]If I wanted to go to France I would want to visit its culture and enjoy its history.
Not a fucking village of assholes with tradition sticks so far up their backsides that they get to hit other people with it.
France is no longer France now... It's so sad and maddening. I can understand wanting to leave your country and finding a better life but this...[/QUOTE]
That's the exception people report on. Sevran is a shithole in the suburbs where all the drug deals happens, every country has them, cities or district forgotten by the government, where we put all the poor and marginalized people, so we don't have to deal with them.
You can come to France and never see anything like that. Hell I've lived all my life near Paris and I've never ever heard of that kind of stuff.
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