[QUOTE=Explosions;44137517]Explain to me why. You've just been saying this over and over without explaining why a creator is on another level.[/QUOTE]
He can't, his views are not even fully formulated in his head, he just knows he's right, the best he can do is a personal insult.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44137628]He can't, his views are not even fully formulated in his head, he just knows he's right, the best he can do is a personal insult.[/QUOTE]
Sick zinger I am devastated
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I am agnostic about god existing but I don't believe in magic. How's that inconsistent?
Will I magically gain consistency if I call myself weak atheist or agnostic atheist?
Either way I feel euphoric
.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44139152]Either way I feel euphoric
.[/QUOTE]
Sick zinger I am devastated
[QUOTE=Manibogi;44137011]Look I understand your point but you're making ridiculous examples. It's the fucking easter bunny, you can't be agnostic about it because we know for sure it doesn't exist.
You were doing well with the ghost example or even the fairy one. Why change to the fucking easter bunny.[/QUOTE]
You didn't get the point about the leprauchauns now did you?
The easter bunny is magic, why would our logic apply to it? Just like a god, it's beyond us, so magic being beyond logic and what not, I have to ask, how are they both not equally likely with the same caveat that you can't disprove them.
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[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44139152]Sick zinger I am devastated
[editline]5th March 2014[/editline]
I am agnostic about god existing but I don't believe in magic. How's that inconsistent?
Will I magically gain consistency if I call myself weak atheist or agnostic atheist?
Either way I feel euphoric
.[/QUOTE]
Your answer is "I don't know if there is a god", which is the same, when asked point blank, yes or no as a no. So, no, you don't believe in god.
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The funniest thing is when you have someone who participates in these conversations, but can't stop for a moment to think beyond pathetic memes
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44139152]Sick zinger I am devastated
[editline]5th March 2014[/editline]
I am agnostic about god existing but I don't believe in magic. How's that inconsistent?
Will I magically gain consistency if I call myself weak atheist or agnostic atheist?
Either way I feel euphoric
.[/QUOTE]
It's not a zinger to devastate you, there is nothing to devastate in the first place because you haven't made an argument yet.
All you've been doing so far was making the same claim over and over and ignored countless times when people asked you for explanation. Stop repeating yourself and explain how is being uncertain about one unfalsifiable entity different from being uncertain about other unfalsifiable entities.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44139419]It's not a zinger to devastate you, there is nothing to devastate in the first place because you haven't made an argument yet.
All you've been doing so far was making the same claim over and over and ignored countless times when people asked you for explanation. Stop repeating yourself and explain how is being uncertain about one unfalsifiable entity different from being uncertain about other unfalsifiable entities.[/QUOTE]
There are atheist that believe in ghosts, does that make atheism inconsistent?
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141679]There are atheist that believe in ghosts, does that make atheism inconsistent?[/QUOTE]
No? It makes those particular atheists inconsistent because they're being silly. What the fuck are you actually arguing here? You just seem to be either seriously misunderstanding the points of others, or posting dumb statements in an attempt to discredit the posts of others.
Agnostic atheism is pretty damn hard to be consistent about, you don't believe in a God, but you aren't sure of the existence one. The fact you don't believe in a God, by it's own merit, means you don't care or think one can exist. Being unsure of one does not in any way contribute to your label of atheist. And if you aren't sure of the existence of one mythical being, you must therefore be unsure of the existence of the others by extension. You can't cherry pick which myths you are certain can't be real if you're actually doing atheism "right" (for lack of a better term).
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141679]There are atheist that believe in ghosts, does that make atheism inconsistent?[/QUOTE]
Your reading comprehension is at the level that I'm starting to think you're some kind of chatbot.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;44141726]No? It makes those particular atheists inconsistent because they're being silly. What the fuck are you actually arguing here? You just seem to be either seriously misunderstanding the points of others, or posting dumb statements in an attempt to discredit the posts of others.
Agnostic atheism is pretty damn hard to be consistent about, you don't believe in a God, but you aren't sure of the existence one. The fact you don't believe in a God, by it's own merit, means you don't care or think one can exist. Being unsure of one does not in any way contribute to your label of atheist. And if you aren't sure of the existence of one mythical being, you must therefore be unsure of the existence of the others by extension. You can't cherry pick which myths you are certain can't be real if you're actually doing atheism "right" (for lack of a better term).[/QUOTE]
Did someone said no true Scotsman???
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141679]There are atheist that believe in ghosts, does that make atheism inconsistent?[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything and how would some people make an idea of not believing in a deity inconsistent?
Can you actually form a coherent explanation why there's a difference or do you actually do not have these thoughts formulated in your head?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44141766]Your reading comprehension is at the level that I'm starting to think you're some kind of chatbot.[/QUOTE]
Nice ad hominem, you are giving atheists a good name
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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44141785]What does that have to do with anything and how would some people make an idea of not believing in a deity inconsistent?
Can you actually form a coherent explanation why there's a difference or do you actually do not have these thoughts formulated in your head?[/QUOTE]
Well atheist must not believe in the supernatural or they are being inconsistent!!
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141796]Well atheist must not believe in the supernatural or they are being inconsistent!![/QUOTE]
yes, that is correct
i don't understand what you're getting at here
Looks like your poor reading comprehension extends to the Wikipedia entry on logical fallacies.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141782]Did someone said no true Scotsman???[/QUOTE]
It does resemble no true Scotsman, I'll give you that. But it isn't really a fallacious post because, well, if you do claim to be an agnostic atheist, but do not apply the same line of thought to all mythical beings, then you're being inconsistent about your belief and therefore being a muppet. You're still an agnostic atheist, because you want to be one after all, just doing a really shit job of being consistent.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141796]Well atheist must not believe in the supernatural or they are being inconsistent!![/QUOTE]
If someone has a rule of not believing in things that aren't proven, he's not going to believe in a god or in other magical beings like fairies. If he cherrypicks which unfalsifiable entities are real or not, he's being inconsistent, yes.
You still haven't explained why there's a difference between not being sure about existence of unfalsifiable fairies and unfalsifiable god.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44139360]
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Your answer is "I don't know if there is a god", which is the same, when asked point blank, yes or no as a no. So, no, you don't believe in god.
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The funniest thing is when you have someone who participates in these conversations, but can't stop for a moment to think beyond pathetic memes[/QUOTE]
How does one I don't know equals a no?
[QUOTE=Falubii;44137414]True but the level of evidence for both is about the same.[/QUOTE]
And
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44141845]If someone has a rule of not believing in things that aren't proven, he's not going to believe in a god or in other magical beings like fairies. If he cherrypicks which unfalsifiable entities are real or not, he's being inconsistent.
You still haven't explained why there's a difference between not being sure about existence of unfalsifiable fairies and unfalsifiable god.[/QUOTE]
that doesn't really have anything to do with atheism though, that's just a matter of personal credulity
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;44141866]that doesn't really have anything to do with atheism though, that's just a matter of personal credulity[/QUOTE]
I know I'm just assuming that's what his babbling about atheists being inconsistent is about.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141850]How does one I don't know equals a no?[/QUOTE]
because if you do not expressly believe something then that means you do not believe in it
if you aren't sure whether or not you trust a car salesman, you don't trust them
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141850]How does one I don't know equals a no?[/QUOTE]
because you don't worship one so it can't be a positive and you don't openly acknowledge one.
It's more a no than it is anything else. You don't get to sit on the fence for a lot of questions and it's a inane position to take.
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[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141796]Nice ad hominem, you are giving atheists a good name
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Well atheist must not believe in the supernatural or they are being inconsistent!![/QUOTE]
that is exactly the point.
they are not being consistent.
can you explain how they are?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44141894]because you don't worship one so it can't be a positive and you don't openly acknowledge one.
It's more a no than it is anything else. You don't get to sit on the fence for a lot of questions and it's a inane position to take.
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that is exactly the point.
they are not being consistent.
can you explain how they are?[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously saying that we can respond to that question with a yes or a no and.we have to be 100% sure of it?
I've heard enough
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141950]Are you seriously saying that we can respond to that question with a yes or a no and.we have to be 100% sure of it?
I've heard enough[/QUOTE]
i haven't, im still so confused. i have no idea what you're saying
you don't have to be 100% sure, what does that have to do with anything
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141950]Are you seriously saying that we can respond to that question with a yes or a no and.we have to be 100% sure of it?
I've heard enough[/QUOTE]
nope
but again, this is where reading comprehension comes into play
"Do you [b]BELIEVE[/b] in god?" doesn't say anything about your thoughts on the likely hood of god. Saying matter of factly "No i don't believe in a god" doesn't mean you think one is impossible.
Just that you simply don't believe in one.
But hey, the worlds as black and white as you want it to be.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44141950]Are you seriously saying that we can respond to that question with a yes or a no and.we have to be 100% sure of it?
I've heard enough[/QUOTE]
I don't think you've heard anything.
Just remember that this guy has been banned dozens of times for trolling, and permabanned for it in the past. He seems to be having too much fun here. Just ignore him and let him be dumb.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44075496]I'd rather people talked about their belief or lack there of in terms of a scale.
1 Absolute conviction god exists
2
3
4 Complete uncertainty
5
6
7 Absolute conviction god doesn't exist
I'm a 6.
Makes it a lot clearer how strongly you believe things. 1's and 7's aren't even worth the time.[/QUOTE]
I am a 6.5
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[QUOTE=hexpunK;44142052]Just remember that this guy has been banned dozens of times for trolling, and permabanned for it in the past. He seems to be having too much fun here. Just ignore him and let him be dumb.[/QUOTE]
Yours isnt that far off.
That doesn't makes your argument any less wrong
if you give a damn about saying his arguments wrong why don't you explain why it is rather than continue to repeat yourself
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44142018]I don't think you've heard anything.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you are right, but I cant know for sure. :v:
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44142126]if you give a damn about saying his arguments wrong why don't you explain why it is rather than continue to repeat yourself[/QUOTE]
I think he's right actually
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;44142141]Maybe you are right, but I cant know for sure. :v:
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I think he's right actually[/QUOTE]
Do you possess the capacity to not make vague, borderline shitposts?
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