Hillary Clinton interrupted by Pepe - General

Christ, some guy just yelled a two syllable word out loud on a rally for some cheap laughs and it didn't take even 10 posts to start discussing gamergate and all the sexist/racist connotations. I would understand if he yelled something offensive, but this was just a harmless joke, no matter its quality. Can't wait for this thread to reach 5+ pages.

What's the alt-right anyway? Is it just a buzzword that this time combines racist, sexist, anti-semite, islamophobe?

[QUOTE=person11;50955033]As far as I can tell, the origin of cuck being used so much, or at least popularization of the term, in the mainly white male cross-section of GG that supports Trump, comes from Anthony Burch apparently (I never looked into it, because what the fuck that's so dumb) being a cuckold??? I could be wrong, but I remember seeing GG having a ton of fun at Busch's expense by calling him a cuck, then calling any male associated with Zoe Quinn or against GG that as well. I then noticed that the reactionaries of /pol/ and other alt-right Trump fans were using the term to describe their opponents. So that is far from conclusive, but it seemed intuitive to me that two alt-right reactionary movements would have some of the same members using the same memes on their enemies. [editline]26th August 2016[/editline] ah yes, the massive range, from Obama is a muslim, to some races are biologically smarter than others and a bit of feminism is cancer I know only a certain part of the alt-right are "racial realists" or "white nationalists", but the rest of them don't inspire much confidence the amount of anti-black and anti-semite imagery used by alt-right users and websites is enough to convince me the entire thing is old white supremacy + young men on the internet [editline]26th August 2016[/editline] Oh my god people literally don't like Burch because he - used memes - replied positively to constructive criticism from FF - had an open relationship that then ended - did not like GG the way people talk about him i thought it was MUCH worse[/QUOTE] Ah yes, Gamergate is literally the patriarchy and Illuminati at once, who have apparently enough reach to actually get Trump in the White House. Hell, I can remember some clickbait site sprouting that Trump was the ''Gamergate candidate of politics'' around a year ago, whatever the hell that might mean. I didn't expect people to actually take those articles seriously, but apparently, some people take them one hundred percent as the truth.

The mention of 4chan really triggers some people in here

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50956554]What's the alt-right anyway? Is it just a buzzword that this time combines racist, sexist, anti-semite, islamophobe?[/QUOTE] People against multi-culturalism and immigration and most things in that vein that are seen as falling under a "liberal agenda to self genocide bla bla bla"

what does the word "pepe" mean?

[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;50956652]what does the word "pepe" mean?[/QUOTE] It's a pet name in Spanish, basically short for José (Joseph). There's also a meme going by the same name starring a frog from an old webcomic.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50956554]What's the alt-right anyway? Is it just a buzzword that this time combines racist, sexist, anti-semite, islamophobe?[/QUOTE] Imagine SJWs on the opposite side of the political spectrum. They're kind of like that. Not too bright people who sit in their own versions of safe spaces just enabling eachother and thinking up stupid bullshit twentyfour hours a day.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50956661]It's a pet name in Spanish, basically short for José (Joseph). There's also a meme going by the same name starring a frog from an old webcomic.[/QUOTE] It's not a pet name, it's a person name, you'll rarely see a pet named like that, at least in Spain.

[QUOTE=alexelgeco;50956730]It's not a pet name, it's a person name, you'll rarely see a pet named like that, at least in Spain.[/QUOTE] [quote]pet name noun [ C ] UK  /ˌpet ˈneɪm/ US  /ˌpet ˈneɪm/  an informal name given to someone by their family or friends[/quote] This kind of pet name, not the other pet

[QUOTE=Mattk50;50956205]considering GG is a movement with no specific left/right political alignment thats made up mostly of left leaning gamers according to numerous polls and twitter stats from before GG a you have to admit its a bit of an odd line to be seeing. Unless you just read a kotaku article and it convinced you that suddenly a massive amount of younger gamers, a typically left leaning demographic is suddenly all racist extremist right wingers. A tip for you, everyone with any significance at all on the internet receives numerous messages, emails and references that can be taken as harassment. At this point it just depends on who is sleezy enough to write an article pretending its a problem exclusive to any particular individuals, ideologies or groups rather than just a problem on the internet as a whole. It's really quite dumbfounding how so many people who so clearly understood that people become dicks online suddenly want to pretend its just their political opponents. These days bias in media most effectively manifests as what they choose to cover and ignore, rather than flaws in reporting, despite both being universal. Choosing to cover harrassment of someone on "your side" but not people on "the other side" is one of the most prominent examples of this, and was not only the key to biased gamergate coverage but is also become more and more relevant for people looking to target movements like BLM and groups like "trump supporters".[/QUOTE] Some people say the same thing about some alt-right groups, that some left leaning ideology is incorporated into an ideological framework that brings in values that boost the idea that whites/men are the "actual" oppressed group. And I guess we disagree about the nature of internet harassment. To me, it looks like similar groups using the same tactics on people they don't like.

For some reason I'm reminded of the "Hitler Wikipedia" game, where you click a random article and try to reach Hitler's page in the fewest clicks possible Except, you know, for Gamergate.

[QUOTE=gudman;50956392]Leave it to person11 to bring up unrelated stuff and bait everyone into discussing it. I get it, gamergate is Tea party movement now.[/QUOTE] I was not trying to bait, I just thought it was obvious if you zoom out and look at the two groups and analyze them. [editline]27th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Jordax;50956563]Ah yes, Gamergate is literally the patriarchy and Illuminati at once, who have apparently enough reach to actually get Trump in the White House. Hell, I can remember some clickbait site sprouting that Trump was the ''Gamergate candidate of politics'' around a year ago, whatever the hell that might mean. I didn't expect people to actually take those articles seriously, but apparently, some people take them one hundred percent as the truth.[/QUOTE] I've not seen that article. It does not take that much to draw a line between the two groups. While I could be wrong, I think what I am saying is not much of a conspiracy theory since it's at least plausible.

[QUOTE=person11;50956772]Some people say the same thing about some alt-right groups, that some left leaning ideology is incorporated into an ideological framework that brings in values that boost the idea that whites/men are the "actual" oppressed group. And I guess we disagree about the nature of internet harassment. To me, it looks like similar groups using the same tactics on people they don't like.[/QUOTE] It might seem that way to you, but if it does that's probably due to the fact that you're generalizing a large number of people who hold a diverse range of opinions into fitting into a single stereotype that suits your pre-existing expectations and prejudices. [editline]27th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=person11;50956775]I was not trying to bait, I just thought it was obvious if you zoom out and look at the two groups and analyze them.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't "zoom out" and look at anyone, you are literally conflating many individual people and multiple groups of people as sharing the same core beliefs and painting them with a broad brush, it's intellectually dishonest. It's like claiming that all Muslims are fundamentally violent extremists because they all share the same religion. Don't generalize people, is what I'm basically saying, it makes you as bad as the people you claim to dislike. [editline]27th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=person11;50956775] I've not seen that article. It does not take that much to draw a line between the two groups. While I could be wrong, I think what I am saying is not much of a conspiracy theory since it's at least plausible.[/QUOTE] Do you have any proof that the people who you think are conspiring are in fact conspiring? If not, it is a conspiracy theory by definition. I vehemently disagree with the alt-right, and I'm not particularly a fan of religion either for that matter. The methodology that you're using in generalising people is objectively incorrect, however.

I should clarify that what I was getting at was a small minority of both GG and Trump supporters could be the same, not a 1:1 similarity between two, as you said, large and diverse groups. I'll do some research and make a thread about it at some point. Sorry for accidentally derailing. I'm still floored that we've gotten to the point of pepe being yelled at rallies and /pol/ being talked about by CNN. 4chan is once again being mislabeled, this time as a "hate forum", though many people would not understand why /pol/ would be allowed to exist.

[QUOTE=person11;50956772]Some people say the same thing about some alt-right groups, that some left leaning ideology is incorporated into an ideological framework that brings in values that boost the idea that whites/men are the "actual" oppressed group. And I guess we disagree about the nature of internet harassment. To me, it looks like similar groups using the same tactics on people they don't like.[/QUOTE] I mean following your logic, because most of the 'tactics' used by SJWs online are the same as extremist right wingers they are both the same group... it really doesn't hold up under scrutiny. People who want to hurt others will do things that are effective at hurting others, and those people are everywhere on the internet. At some point i think its best to only criticize individuals and specific actions, rather than vague groups where you cant pin things on any one person.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;50956868]I mean following your logic, because most of the 'tactics' used by SJWs online are the same as extremist right wingers they are both the same group... it really doesn't hold up under scrutiny. People who want to hurt others will do things that are effective at hurting others, and those people are everywhere on the internet. At some point i think its best to only criticize individuals and specific actions, rather than vague groups where you cant pin things on any one person.[/QUOTE] That's exactly right, you cannot really generalize groups of people based on actions unless you're specifically stating that you're criticizing "people who do X" and not any particular political, social, ethnic, religious or racial group. Anything else is prone to stereotyping and broad, sweeping and incorrect generalisations. I.e. you could say "I dislike people who doxx and harrass people on the internet" but that would not be the same as saying "I hate conservatives, they all dox and harass people on the internet". It sounds obvious, but a not too insignificant number of people might assume those two statements mean the same thing.

Eh, it's kinda funny but not really that much. A funny interuption at a political speech was when a drone with a dido strapped to it flew in and buzzed around for a bit.

[QUOTE=Anderan;50956961]Eh, it's kinda funny but not really that much. A funny interuption at a political speech was when a drone with a dido strapped to it flew in and buzzed around for a bit.[/QUOTE] You mean dicked around?