It's called Yule fucking rednecks! Not christmas! :3
Germanic, Scandinvian and even English origins.
[QUOTE=I_Forgot;18489753]No, he mentioned that it means not believing in god. It's not exactly a complicated system of nonbeliefs.
Also, I think anyone who wants to argue over whether god exists or not should go kill themselves, because that is the only way to find out. Otherwise just shut up and let people believe or not believe what they want to.
However, people always want to force their beliefs on everyone else, it seems, so that idea goes to shit.[/QUOTE]
CAN I DO IT IN A SUBWAY WITH 53 OTHER JAPANESE PEOPLE?! HUH CAN I? LIKE THIS
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyV3VD3pBiU[/media]
God funniest movie ive seen in a long time. Oh and i'm not Japanese for the record.
Dont rate me dumb for thinking somethings funny. Thats like saying "Youre a PC gamer you suck because you dont play on the Xbox"
Christmas has only been a family tradition since Coca-Cola.
Wow, I think americans read to much into this religion thing.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;18481293]Christmas isn't about Jesus...It's about family. Or at least it used to be, until commercialism showed its ugly face.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot, its a Christian Holiday to celebrate the Birthday of Jesus Christ.
[QUOTE=Rombishead;18492625]Wow, I think americans read to much into this religion thing.[/QUOTE]
Actually in some parts its almost illegal to do that kind of thing, like public schools and on TV that isnt labeled as a Christian channel but you guys know that right?
[QUOTE=evilweazel;18492670]You're an idiot, its a Christian Holiday to celebrate the Birthday of Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE]
But how many people seriously go throughout Christmas thinking that instead of their family.
Ughn That kid seems like a asshole.
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also late
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the mom is a asshole too.
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The dad is mellow
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This proves Catholics produce assholes
Research by: Lonely facepunch christian Inc.
[QUOTE=Wii60;18493083]Ughn That kid seems like a asshole.
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also late
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the mom is a asshole too.
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The dad is mellow
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This proves Catholics produce assholes
Research by: Lonely facepunch christian Inc.[/QUOTE]
Shut up.
Let this be proof as to why you don't tell your headstrong parents that you do not believe in what they believe in. The observant amongst you already know this.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18485827]No proof if Jesus ever existed.[/QUOTE]
No, you're wrong. Jesus existed. I'm an atheist, but I don't doubt Jesus existed.
[QUOTE=OvB;18493932]No, you're wrong. Jesus existed. I'm an atheist, but I don't doubt Jesus existed.[/QUOTE]
So a guy was born and claimed to be the son of god. This changes nothing.
I'm sure you could find someone like that in a mental hospital right now.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;18494575]So a guy was born and claimed to be the son of god. This changes nothing.
I'm sure you could find someone like that in a mental hospital right now.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. He still existed. He may have just been a really manipulative and influential person. A lot like Charles Manson. Just at far different time period. He managed to convince people he was the son of god.
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;18489549]Roman records prove Jesus existed.[/QUOTE]
What records? The records where Jesus could have been the name of thousands of people?
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In fact there could have been many people like Jesus that over time combined into one white, clean-shaven, and kind-hearted character in a big fat fiction novel.
Jesus existed, maybe, but he sure wasn't son of god, he was just misunderstood.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18495499]What records?[/QUOTE]
The bible. :downs:
I don't know. I still think there was a Jesus. I mean. Someone had to be there to influence them and cause them to write certain things down in the bible. Ether that or it's just a collaborative novel that was misunderstood.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18495499]What records? The records where Jesus could have been the name of thousands of people?
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In fact there could have been many people like Jesus that over time combined into one white, clean-shaven, and kind-hearted character in a big fat fiction novel.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a source so you're probably going to disregard everything I say. I've heard multiple times that there were multiple Roman and Jewish records saying there was a preacher called Jesus who many Jews followed, and was executed by the Romans.
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;18495662]I don't have a source so you're probably going to disregard everything I say. I've heard multiple times that there were multiple Roman and Jewish records saying there was a preacher called Jesus who many Jews followed, and was executed by the Romans.[/QUOTE]
Any documents about him were were written decades after the range of time "he" could have possibly lived in. Historians can't agree on it, and there isn't a single shred of evidence to help them, so it's more realistic to believe that there wasn't one guy named Jesus.
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[QUOTE=OvB;18495644]The bible. :downs:
I don't know. I still think there was a Jesus. I mean. Someone had to be there to influence them and cause them to write certain things down in the bible. Ether that or it's just a collaborative novel that was misunderstood.[/QUOTE]
You can't honestly believe that one single man would influence writers in Greece, Rome, and Canaan to write about him constantly and then somehow it got impossibly popular throughout the empire?
Also "the bible" is the exact answer I get when I ask someone that out in public and :downs: isn't even close to what I think of them.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18485827]No proof if Jesus ever existed.[/QUOTE]
Actually there is more proof that Jesus existed than that George Washington was president.
[QUOTE=JimmeyJohns;18495950]Actually there is more proof that Jesus existed than that George Washington was president.[/QUOTE]
Wat.
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You can't honestly believe that one single man would influence writers in Greece, Rome, and Canaan to write about him constantly and then somehow it got impossibly popular throughout the empire?
Also "the bible" is the exact answer I get when I ask someone that out in public and :downs: isn't even close to what I think of them.[/QUOTE]
Well religion was a lot more popular back then than it is now, And people were a lot more gullible. It would not surprise me if one man could do some trickery and convince people he was the son of god. Then things would just spread from word-of-mouth. Who knows. They were probably drugged too. Look at what mansion was capable of doing when his followers were to high to make a thought on their own.
Jesus may have been the greatest cult leader ever known.
Religion was created so that man did not have to face the fact that we are meaningless. Christianity worked because it terrified people into joining them. "Join us or spend an eternity in hell."
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Hasn't this thread de-railed a little bit?
[QUOTE=Logidru;18496555]Religion was created so that man did not have to face the fact that we are meaningless. Christianity worked because it terrified people into joining them. "Join us or spend an eternity in hell."
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Crusades: Join us or die.
Spanish Inquisition: Be of different religion/Commit minor blasphemy and get tortured until you admit you're a sinner and die.
Religion sucks.
[QUOTE=JimmeyJohns;18495950]Actually there is more proof that Jesus existed than that George Washington was president.[/QUOTE]
Wow this line is straight out of a Kent Hovind seminar.
hahahahaha
"YERRIN AYTHEIST HOWKIN YA STAWP BELIEVIN IN THA LURD JEEZUS CHRAST YAINT GETTIN NUTTIN FER CHRISMIS [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-bahgawd.gif[/img]"
One of the most religious looking things that I have observed people doing is the massive ignoring of religious questions. Those that are asking them and honestly seeking answers I would think of as the most irreligious.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;18481293]Christmas isn't about Jesus...It's about family. Or at least it used to be, until commercialism showed its ugly face.[/QUOTE]
HAHA Are you kidding?
You think that the Christmas tradition was created for family purposes?
That was patheticly stupid :D
No, it is indeed a biblical tradition.. You know, celebrate the birth of jesus? Ever heard of it?
Ontopic: I'm an atheist.
PS. (Don't know if you're an american or not but to make this interesting I'm going to asume you are.
Americas whole economic system is built purely on commercialism, prove me wrong please.)
[QUOTE=OvB;18496502]Well religion was a lot more popular back then than it is now, And people were a lot more gullible. It would not surprise me if one man could do some trickery and convince people he was the son of god. Then things would just spread from word-of-mouth. Who knows. They were probably drugged too. Look at what mansion was capable of doing when his followers were to high to make a thought on their own.
Jesus may have been the greatest cult leader ever known.[/QUOTE]
You don't think it could have been a group of Patricians scattered over the empire, trying to gain influence over the lower class? Which is exactly what happened for centuries after and before that?
[QUOTE=Analog;18497030]One of the most religious looking things that I have observed people doing is the massive ignoring of religious questions. Those that are asking them and honestly seeking answers I would think of as the most irreligious.[/QUOTE]
That's because for anyone who [I]is[/I] religious, the question ends at: "God did it", "God made it that way", "It says it in the bible."
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18497215]You don't think it could have been a group of Patricians scattered over the empire, trying to gain influence over the lower class? Which is exactly what happened for centuries after and before that?[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what it was. Nether of us know what exactly happened.
Christmas is about santa, presents and about having quality time with family or friends.
Fuck that woman but at least she know her place at kitchen.
[QUOTE=sasuke0991;18485907]Sigh... That kid is just another little faggot that is like "omg im athiest cuz the internet says its cool"... Bet he couldn't even tell you what atheism really is.[/QUOTE]
being an atheist means you are someone with no belief in god. That's what it means, what else could it mean? what do YOU think it means?
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