[QUOTE=Sableye;49092298]can we stop posting this guy's videos or reacting like what he says isn't sort of common knowledge.
seriously he doesn't say anything people shouldn't already know, and its just overacted
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As a Dutch man I didn't know; I don't have to, anyway.
Sounds pretty un-democratic from my point of view, but then again neither is my country.
The only real democracy is one with a shit-ton of referendums, like Switzerland.
And hey, they seem to be doing okay.
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[DEL]Can someone explain why some states actually get more voting power per-person?[/DEL]
Watched the second video and one about the gerrymandering.
Seems like it gives an awful lot of opportunity for people to make money whilst skewing results.
Way un-cool, America.
[QUOTE=MyAlt91;49099345]As a Dutch man I didn't know; I don't have to, anyway.
Sounds pretty un-democratic from my point of view, but then again neither is my country.
The only real democracy is one with a shit-ton of referendums, like Switzerland.
And hey, they seem to be doing okay.
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[DEL]Can someone explain why some states actually get more voting power per-person?[/DEL]
Watched the second video and one about the gerrymandering.
Seems like it gives an awful lot of opportunity for people to make money whilst skewing results.
Way un-cool, America.[/QUOTE]
you have a constitutional monarchy where your elected head of state is equivalent to our speaker of the house and you're complaining about our system being undemocratic?
just saying...
referendums are great, and today every state essentially has some sort of ballot initiative system, but its not perfect, Ohio's recent pot bill was a great example, a very wealthy group of people schemed to try to use public opinion to grant them an actual constitutional monopoly on production, distribution, and sale of pot in ohio, we voted it down very quickly. Referendums aren't a great way to get many issues done in the US either, minority issues have historically and even recently been incredibly tough to get a majority to move on.
a lot of the problems with the US political system right now is that it was business as usual for the last 30 years since any great changes have happened in the way we do things, but progress is being made, states are enacting independant or at least bipartisan redistricting committies, and the electoral college is sort of on its way out too, as every year more states are moving towards a proportional system instead of the winner-take-all tradition, no major swing state has done this yet, but its inevitable.
there is real political change today, but its been slow, and people are getting more and more pissed off.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49099278]2000 Al Gore got the popular vote but Bush won and we know how that ended up.[/QUOTE]
The 2000 election was a fucked situation tbh, the margin of victory was less than 1, and while everyone suspected that some votes were phony. No matter which candidate won, it would feel like that wouldn't feel like a proper victory.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49106066]you have a constitutional monarchy..[/QUOTE]
Most constitutional monarchies in the west are more democratic than the United States. Your system wasn't designed around democracy. It was a series of compromises and it was made by elites that wanted only rich white landowners to vote.
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[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49106460]Most constitutional monarchies in the west are more democratic than the United States. Your system wasn't designed around democracy. It was a series of compromises and it was made by elites that wanted only rich white landowners to vote.[/QUOTE]
no i'm saying the PMs in all the European parliamentary systems are even less democratic than the US president seeing as how all of them are setup to greatly benefit the slimmest majority party, and the functional head of said system only has to worry about pleasing their party or coalition to maintain power. the closest the US has gotten to something like that was president Ford, who was selected by congress and made president by resignations and heart attacks
pick at our electoral college, but the european systems are setup to entrench power on purpose, and while they've been overhauled over the years, there are still plenty of institutions that are purely undemocratic, such as the house of lords in britain. The US systems were set up like so because they had to deal with managing an election over such a large continent, it was easier to just have a handful of delegates cast the representative vote for each area, then take those votes to congress, its a pointless holdout thats been gamed today though, but changing US electoral law is very slow and difficult, we're still using paper ballots and you have to mail in a form to even request a mail ballot.
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