ABC News hidden camera expirements racism in America. - General

[QUOTE=TAU!;26508495]No one around today was involved in that, and multiple countries during the time were involved in that.[/QUOTE] Yeah but they said something about people saying they are not American despite being born there. I think that's why he said that. Kinda broken opinion of those people.

It seemed to fake for anyone in the bakery to believe it was real

Reminds me of a quote I once read(If anyone can give me the source of the quote it would be awesome) "Of all the animals in the world, humans are the only one that can be evil." Or something like that. Due to my religion, I see all humans as just another animal(yes, even myself), people can be better, or worse, than just another monkey throwing shit at people, if they are, I respect them, if they don't, I have no problem destroying them, whether it would be physically, socially, mentally, or monetary. Whenever I see shit like this, no matter who's on the receiving end, I'll step in to help the person. And even though my religion is an atheist religion, I fucking respect other religions if they respect mine, I kneel and make a prayer whenever I visit a place of prayer, be it church, mosque, or something else. I'm probably as pure white descent as you can get, yet I probably get respected more from muslims and blacks due to this lifestyle, it's quite funny actually. I'll leave you with this :v: [media]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1346/1290264789200.jpg[/media]

This is why playing the race card is complete fucking bullshit. The only reason people ignored the event happening is because they're probably too damn afraid of what might happen if they do step in.

I'd be outraged. Sure , I might not saying anything right there , but i'd be raging in my head. because i'm too much of a pussy.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;26507964]I dont think you can compare the way people react to a person being denied a service to the way they would react to a beating or fight. I think this whole show is flawed due to most people just want to remain out of conflict. Most of the people standing by would have done so regardless if she was muslim or not.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this was much on a smaller scale, but I guess it was just meant to display common, non-violent racism/xenophobia and reaction then.

[QUOTE=MasterG;26508735]People act like that in America? That's fucked up. Maybe it's the same in Britain in some places, I don't know, but here in South England, most of my friends wouldn't stand for that, and in some of the rougher parts of England, I can see a white British citizen knocking a racist like that out cold. Happened in my school once. Was hilarious. This nerdy Indian muslim kid who's pretty cool was being picked on by some asshat Pakistani kid, and this White British guy overheard the Pakistani kid calling him a "fucking disgrace to Islam", and just straight up knocked him out.[/QUOTE] I imagine racism against Muslim people in England is more so than in America.

Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.

[QUOTE=MasterG;26510364]Did you know that that last quote, about the eye of a needle, is actually referring to a narrow passage into Jerusalem that was notoriously difficult to get laden camels through, hence it's easier to get a fully laden and rich camel (I.e. excessively so) than it is for a laden man (I.e. excessively so) to get into heaven. Fun fact! [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] If it is, then I never see it. The UK doesn't have as much of a misconstrued hatred of Muslims that 9/11 created.[/QUOTE] Nope I didn't, I haven't studied much of pre crusades, but we live to learn :3: And most of the hate for muslims in england, and here in denmark is mainly because they're effectively invading the country, using state money for mosques etc.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] America was all about freedom of religion, etc. How does another religion clash with America? Converting people is harmless in itself if no one is forcing you because who says you can't speak your opinion?

OMG wow did you hear the first guy's justification libertarians across the country should be proud.

[QUOTE=sYnced;26511038]America was all about freedom of religion, etc. How does another religion clash with America? Converting people is harmless in itself if no one is forcing you because who says you can't speak your opinion?[/QUOTE] It's a conversion through any means necessary, which doesn't exclude force, which does infringe on the safety of United States Citizen, and when the safety and liberty of the citizen is in danger, that supersedes Freedom of Religion. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] I'm just stating fact.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] The world would be a much better place if that was true. Pretty much all religious people pick and choose what to believe.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;26511281]The world would be a much better place if that was true. Pretty much all religious people pick and choose what to believe.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying, if you associate yourself with something then be ready to back it up, and don't expect people to boo-hoo and sympathize for you. You're making the choice.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] There are large populations of muslims who don't seek world conquest, and there are those who do (mostly in the theocracies and immigrants in European countries). I see nothing wrong with a Muslim who assimilates into society and becomes an ideological American while still maintaining their religion, but American law should always come first.

[QUOTE=FHamster;26511307]There are large populations of muslims who don't seek world conquest, and there are those who do (mostly in the theocracies and immigrants in European countries). I see nothing wrong with a Muslim who assimilates into society and becomes an ideological American while still maintaining their religion, but American law should always come first.[/QUOTE] "There are large populations of muslims who don't seek world conquest, and there are those who do" I understand where you are coming from but that's the first mistake everyone makes. They can say they don't support it, they can truly believe they don't, but they are associated with a religion that supports it, so regardless of if they say they do or not, they do by being Islamic. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] I'm not trying to attack anyone so don't get that idea guys. I'm just trying to get people to understand this.

All movements to get rid of racism go like "Yeah! Everyone should be equal and respected... Except for THESE people! Once they leave, we'll all be peaceful!"

[QUOTE=craigharley;26508053]All Americans are immigrants. In fact a few of the first people to move there were called terrorists. Boston tea party etc[/QUOTE] Wrong. America was [i]based[/i] on immigration. I'm pretty sure that I haven't immigrated from any countries recently.

I don't consider bad feelings toward and ideology as racisms. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Furbrain ninja'd my response :(

[QUOTE=sami-elite;26508775]Yeah but they said something about people saying they are not American despite being born there. I think that's why he said that. Kinda broken opinion of those people.[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean he should go and start a flame war over something as long past as that. But yes, the people that were against the Muslim woman should've at least thought about what an American is before sounding like morons.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26511414]"There are large populations of muslims who don't seek world conquest, and there are those who do" I understand where you are coming from but that's the first mistake everyone makes. They can say they don't support it, they can truly believe they don't, but they are associated with a religion that supports it, so regardless of if they say they do or not, they do by being Islamic. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] I'm not trying to attack anyone so don't get that idea guys. I'm just trying to get people to understand this.[/QUOTE] There are different branches of Christianity that follow different teachings and there are different sects of islam that I'm sure have varying degrees of extremity. If they do not do so already, they should openly and officially advertise their denouncement of Muslim world domination.

[QUOTE=FHamster;26511561]There are different branches of Christianity that follow different teachings and there are different sects of islam that I'm sure have varying degrees of extremity. If they do not do so already, they should openly and officially advertise their denouncement of Muslim world domination.[/QUOTE] Different branches of Christianity that believe a few different methods, practices, and things of that sort should be done differently, but the core doctrine and belief is the same. Islam is the same way.

[QUOTE=MasterG;26512349]Religions can splinter and fracture. Protestantism and Catholicism is a prime example, and there's no reason why two separate groups of Islam can't be created: One believing in domination, one believing in co-existing.[/QUOTE] >Protestantism and Catholicism >>Christianity Yeah. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] The core is the same.

The man at the end, what a gentleman.

The man who went to tears because his son got back from fighting (what essentially is) racism made ME burst into tears.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] That is a exactly what is going on. Unfortunately, we either have zealous bigots who dislike for all the wrong reasons, or self-hating politically correct groups who think that they have something to make up for. Just like there are thousands of interpretations within one religion, Christianity, Islam is the same way. While all these people who interpret their religion differently claim themselves as Christian or Muslim, many of them are not who they truly say they are. You could not possibly follow Islamic doctrine in the United States without eventually having complaints and eventually being arrested. If you are a Muslim, living happily in America, I have no problem with it because you are likely not following Islamic doctrine accurately. I am not racist or prejudice. I only hate individuals who murder, rape, and do other such obvious immoral acts. If you are a Muslim who lives by good morals, I don't have a problem with you sleeping in the same room with me for all I care, but I can't say you are truly a Muslim despite your claim to be one.

This video negatively stereotypes Czech people :argh:

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] Find me the entry in the Quran that states they want to "conquer the world". Don't worry, I'll wait.

Is he the same guy that said he did'nt serve gays because theyre too fruity :v:

Wolverunder lives in a magical world in which there is no such thing as a religious moderate All muslims want to take over the world and all christians want to have homosexuals executed