ABC News hidden camera expirements racism in America. - General

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26510405]Bigotry isn't right, but I can't really side with Muslims. For example, if you say you're a Christian but you don't believe in God or abide by the Christian doctrine (Bible) then you aren't really a Christian. If you attach yourself to a religion you REPRESENT that religion. You can't just pick and choose what you promote within that religion, or else you really aren't associated to that religion. A lot of you need to learn what Sharia Law and a Jihad really is. If you say you are Muslim, then you are saying "I believe in the teachings and doctrine of Islam, and I follow and abide forthwith." Islam supports and teaches Sharia Law and Jihad. Islam's ultimate goal is the conquest and conversion of ALL nations to Islam. That simple fact, it says so in ISLAMIC doctrine. Not trying to attack anyone here. I'm just pointing out a fact. You CANNOT support Islam and claim to be a patrotic American at the same time. They clash. Their beliefs and morals clash. Be you Saudi-Arabian, Israeli, Iraqi, Egyptian, whatever. I don't find anything wrong with any of those people. It's the ones who are Muslims that I don't stand on common ground with. Seriously, someone tell me where I'm off base or wrong with whatever I said. Muslims know it to be true, and they use semantics and sugar-coating to cover it up. Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, none of these people support the ultimate conversion and conquest of all none Islamic nations. Therefore bigotry toward them is immoral and un-ethical. Muslims support the previously mentioned ideal, therefor I am not abstaining from bigotry toward them. If they re-write the Qu'ran and change their Ideals, then welcome to the United States. Take a seat and have fun. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] Incoming boxes from the 16-year-old theologians.[/QUOTE] I agree for the most part, but... Discrimination is wrong, you have rights to believe and say what you want, and you should only act against someone based on their beliefs when those beliefs turn into actions. That is the ONLY time when discrimination is acceptable- mulsim peoples who are not extremists and do not act out violent or fundamentalist beliefs, even if they believe in them, deserve the same respect and decency and have the same rights as everyone else. It doesn't matter if they represent a group, it doesn't matter if they support groups that are violent, it doesn't matter if they ideologically clash, until they themselves do something to further groups of individuals who or themselves enact actions that are negative, they have every right and every human liberty to believe in whatever they want and to be treated equally.

[QUOTE=The Winner;26508752]Yeah I think it's stupid how we forced Native Americans out of their own country and then gave them some very minuscule amounts of land to live in.[/QUOTE] we? you did that? I did that? funny, I have absolutely no memory of doing that why is it absolutely nobody rags on england or france for doing the exact same thing on a smaller scale

[QUOTE=Hostel;26512993]That is a exactly what is going on. Unfortunately, we either have zealous bigots who dislike for all the wrong reasons, or self-hating politically correct groups who think that they have something to make up for. Just like there are thousands of interpretations within one religion, Christianity, Islam is the same way. While all these people who interpret their religion differently claim themselves as Christian or Muslim, many of them are not who they truly say they are. You could not possibly follow Islamic doctrine in the United States without eventually having complaints and eventually being arrested. If you are a Muslim, living happily in America, I have no problem with it because you are likely not following Islamic doctrine accurately. I am not racist or prejudice. I only hate individuals who murder, rape, and do other such obvious immoral acts. If you are a Muslim who lives by good morals, I don't have a problem with you sleeping in the same room with me for all I care, but I can't say you are truly a Muslim despite your claim to be one.[/QUOTE] This. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=DTkach;26513546]Find me the entry in the Quran that states they want to "conquer the world". Don't worry, I'll wait.[/QUOTE] Don't have one handy chap. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;26513665]Wolverunder lives in a magical world in which there is no such thing as a religious moderate All muslims want to take over the world and all christians want to have homosexuals executed[/QUOTE] And the weather is pretty nice here. Also, I don't think you really read what I said, or you misread it. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Detective P;26513726]I agree for the most part, but... Discrimination is wrong, you have rights to believe and say what you want, and you should only act against someone based on their beliefs when those beliefs turn into actions. That is the ONLY time when discrimination is acceptable- mulsim peoples who are not extremists and do not act out violent or fundamentalist beliefs, even if they believe in them, deserve the same respect and decency and have the same rights as everyone else. It doesn't matter if they represent a group, it doesn't matter if they support groups that are violent, it doesn't matter if they ideologically clash, until they themselves do something to further groups of individuals who or themselves enact actions that are negative, they have every right and every human liberty to believe in whatever they want and to be treated equally.[/QUOTE] The thing is though, do we just wait till they perform some kind of action that takes a life? I'm not saying your wrong, it's just a really hard line to draw.

8:05 "I LOVE GIRLS I STAND UP FOR GIRLS GIRLS ARE BEST GIRLS GIRLS ;_;" too emotional

[QUOTE=DTkach;26513546]Find me the entry in the Quran that states they want to "conquer the world". Don't worry, I'll wait.[/QUOTE] "I think that when God grants me victory over the rest of Palestine, I shall divide my territories, make a will stating my wishes, then set sail on this sea for their far-off lands and pursue the Franks there, so as to free the earth from anyone who does not believe in Allah, or die in the attempt." saladin not from quran but this guy is one of the most major muslim figures so tl;dr "my goal is to convert or kill every single person that isn't muslim"

[QUOTE=cccritical;26514666]'I think that when God grants me victory over the rest of Palestine, I shall divide my territories, make a will stating my wishes, then set sail on this sea for their far-off lands and pursue the Franks there, so as to free the earth from anyone who does not believe in Allah, or die in the attempt." saladin not from quran but this guy is one of the most major muslim figures so[/QUOTE] At least I'm not the only person afraid to show it. The [b]ULTIMATE GOAL[/b] of Islam [b]REGARDLESS[/b] of the sect, group, etc is the [b] CONVERSION AND CONQUEST OF ALL NONE-MUSLIM NATIONS[/b]. I don't see why everyone gets so upset with me not being so warm to them because of this [b]PLAIN FACT[/b]. [b]EDIT:[/b] Also like Hostel said under me, no they do not all comply with it, but that IS and always WILL BE the goal of the religion of Islam.

[QUOTE=TH89;26513665]Wolverunder lives in a magical world in which there is no such thing as a religious moderate All muslims want to take over the world and all christians want to have homosexuals executed[/QUOTE] He went out to distinguish that there ARE religious moderates who don't follow their religion accurately. He distinguished that the situation is not black and white and you turn around to tell him that it is exactly what he did? Don't strawman the argument by making your opposition look like he believes in this superficial nonsense. He said Islamic doctrine demands this, not people. Even translated english versions of Islamic text says so too. This shouldn't give you the impression that he thinks people who read it comply with it. We all know too damn well that there are American Muslims who ignore these demands. There is no language to describe how stupid you are. [QUOTE=DTkach;26513546]Find me the entry in the Quran that states they want to "conquer the world". Don't worry, I'll wait.[/QUOTE] You'll be waiting about just a long as the Tea Party is going to wait to see "separation of church and state" in the US Constitution. Basically, it's there, but not in those words.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26514745]At least I'm not the only person afraid to show it. The [b]ULTIMATE GOAL[/b] of Islam [b]REGARDLESS[/b] of the sect, group, etc is the [b] CONVERSION AND CONQUEST OF ALL NONE-MUSLIM NATIONS[/b]. I don't see why everyone gets so upset with me not being so warm to them because of this [b]PLAIN FACT[/b]. [b]EDIT:[/b] Also like Hostel said under me, no they do not all comply with it, but that IS and always WILL BE the goal of the religion of Islam.[/QUOTE] While conversion is the end goal force isn't used in every sect. One of Christianity's goals is conversion, although nobody off the top of my head uses force in modern times.

[QUOTE=cccritical;26514888]While conversion is the end goal force isn't used in every sect. One of Christianity's goals is conversion, although nobody off the top of my head uses force in modern times.[/QUOTE] Christianity strives to convert people with the motive being love for others and wanting them to have a good after-life because of what Christians believe. Islam does it with the motive being; having control and command over a Muslim world. I can't remember which, but one of the apostles (I think it was Paul) said to "Shake the hem of your garment" at those who do not wish to hear the teachings of Christianity, and that means if they don't want to listen, then simply walk away. In Islam, that isn't an option. Conversion MUST happen to everyone, and the ones who don't convert and considered infidels. Again, it's a plain fact in THEIR doctrine.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26514988]In Islam, that isn't an option. Conversion MUST happen to everyone, and the ones who don't convert and considered infidels. Again, it's a plain fact in THEIR doctrine.[/QUOTE] But back to what you were originally saying, what doctrine says isn't necessarily what all Muslims want to do. If it is with some, that is a problem.

Why can't the human race have good things? This is why

[QUOTE=Hostel;26515170]But back to what you were originally saying, what doctrine says isn't necessarily what all Muslims want to do. If it is with some, that is a problem.[/QUOTE] Pretty much.

They probably intentionally went to the most white trash racist town they could find for this. EDIT: I wrote that after I only saw the first half of the video, now I feel bad.

Stopped the video as soon as I saw the subtitles I don't condone terrorism sorry

[QUOTE=danelo;26505969]What a fake racist. Yea because a real racist would act like a stereotypical idiot and risk his job and customers to get his point across. My point is he's not acting like a real racist he's acting like a douchebag idiot. Oh I forgot these are American racists. Makes sense then.[/QUOTE] lol amarika sckz.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26514745] The [b]ULTIMATE GOAL[/b] of Islam [b]REGARDLESS[/b] of the sect, group, etc is the [b] CONVERSION AND CONQUEST OF ALL NONE-MUSLIM NATIONS[/b]. I don't see why everyone gets so upset with me not being so warm to them because of this [b]PLAIN FACT[/b].[/QUOTE] Who gives a shit what the ultimate goal of the religion was a millennium ago, only the extremists follow that now

Every country has racists, Japan has entire districts in cities that ban white people. And very few of you actually pointed out that FAR MORE people were pissed at the clerk than worried as to how the woman was dressed, it's like the whole point of the video flew over your head.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;26514745]At least I'm not the only person afraid to show it. The [b]ULTIMATE GOAL[/b] of Islam [b]REGARDLESS[/b] of the sect, group, etc is the [b] CONVERSION AND CONQUEST OF ALL NONE-MUSLIM NATIONS[/b]. I don't see why everyone gets so upset with me not being so warm to them because of this [b]PLAIN FACT[/b]. [b]EDIT:[/b] Also like Hostel said under me, no they do not all comply with it, but that IS and always WILL BE the goal of the religion of Islam.[/QUOTE] I think the appropriate response to this post would be "HAHA, OH WOW". There's a difference between wanting to convert everyone to their faith (Which is the goal of every religion, FYI) and "CONQUERING THE GLOBE". Sorry bro, but I actually AM familiar with the Islamic religion, and no, there's nothing about conquering the globe. Maybe you should turn off Fox News and get a Quran of your own, so you actually know what the fuck you're talking about. This passive aggressive bullshit is just a show to try and hide your bigotry/lack of knowledge on the subject.

It isnt this common guys.

The people sticking up for her warm my heart.

Hahaha, all the people that thought the clerk was doing the right thing were old white dudes that drive pickups.

The old dudes were obviously vietnam/WW2 vets.

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[QUOTE=cccritical;26514666]"I think that when God grants me victory over the rest of Palestine, I shall divide my territories, make a will stating my wishes, then set sail on this sea for their far-off lands and pursue the Franks there, so as to free the earth from anyone who does not believe in Allah, or die in the attempt." saladin not from quran but this guy is one of the most major muslim figures so tl;dr "my goal is to convert or kill every single person that isn't muslim"[/QUOTE] What, seriously? You’re quoting a man from the old ages hundreds of years ago when conquest and expansion was abundant? He held no religious rank; his word was not above the Qur’ans. Why don’t we quote hundreds of Christian leaders in the past who seeked to expand their Christian empire as well and use that as proof that Christians are secretly “seeking world domination”.

While it may be 'wrong' to deny someone service based on their ethnicity or what have you, and even be illegal, I think it's even more wrong to tell someone how to run their own business You wouldn't walk into someone's house and demand their curtains and paint color to be changed because it offends you

[QUOTE=TheTalon;26520402]While it may be 'wrong' to deny someone service based on their ethnicity or what have you, and even be illegal, I think it's even more wrong to tell someone how to run their own business You wouldn't walk into someone's house and demand their curtains and paint color to be changed because it offends you[/QUOTE] True, but that isn't the case here. The lady didn't say anything similar to "I feel uncomfortable that you are a Christian clerk, can you convert to Islam?"

[QUOTE=TheTalon;26520402]While it may be 'wrong' to deny someone service based on their ethnicity or what have you, and even be illegal, I think it's even more wrong to tell someone how to run their own business You wouldn't walk into someone's house and demand their curtains and paint color to be changed because it offends you[/QUOTE] If we wrote all our laws with protection of business and not the consumer in mind, monopolies would be legal. No one was telling them how to run their business. They're telling them they can't discriminate against people for no good reason. If someone is misconducting themselves in the store sure, they can get rid of them, but this woman did nothing wrong.

this is hard to watch.

I feel bad about laughing when he said, "You're a bad American!" If I was there, I would've just laughed. You could tell it was actors.