I don't see what's so wrong with the term 'gamer'. Is it the er on the end that annoys people, or something else about it? I'd never use it purely on its own, unless I was referring to the demographic of video game players, which is a lot more long-winded. OK, so to this you might respond 'Well it doesn't matter how punchy a word is, because this term isn't really very accurate.' But I'd say it is. 'To game' has simply become a contraction of 'to play video games', it's just the evolution of language. We call people who go to the movies 'moviegoers', not 'people who go to the movies'. In that case, the verbal noun has formed despite the verb not being there. And I think 'gameplayers' just sounds even more ridiculous, so for the sake of convenience, I don't think gamer is really that bad a term.
As for the actual on-topic part of this, as long as the person isn't just faking enjoyment to earn money, there's not a problem. It's not an issue because they're 'a disgrace to the gaming master race oh no!!!', but just because that's pretty fucking shallow to fake enjoyment of [i]anything[/i]. Apart from that, I don't see any reason why one shouldn't say one enjoys video games, although if you're rubbing it in everyone's face then that's a problem.
Just as it would be with anyone else.
I suppose for most people, it's not really a specific issue so much as a general thing; anybody who acts like they're a unique special snowflake for being a [demographic which doesn't normally like x] who likes x is a bit of a wanker.
Girl gamers are not an issue, guys are.
There would be no problem if you didn't have smelly neckbeards sucking up to the few girls that play games who are also addicted to causing drama/getting attention. White knighting is what causes them to gain power/position within communities and cause more drama and then be used as fuel in the crusade against girl gamers.
The majority of girls I have seen playing games are actually alright and all they want to do is play the game yet on one side they get people being mad/abusive at them for 'abusing' their sex (Read: using mic), and then on the other side they have a bunch of creeps constantly pestering them. One girl on my friends uses male sounding names because shes sick of people A: pestering her, and B: cutting her slack on Dota 2 and sitting in silence thinking shes awful rather than telling her that shes doing shit and should stop doing XYZ, because she just wants to be treated like one of the guys.
[QUOTE=cdr248;41169124]I am trying to think of other asian action stars but I can't stop thinking about Jackie Chan.[/QUOTE]
Will Smith
Yet another Circlejerk Thread... Is this all FP is now?
Welp, heres to another 20 pages.
[QUOTE=Tobylol;41168672]Seriously who the fuck cares? The fact that people get upset at this is really pathetic. Let people play whatever they want or call themselves whatever they want. "Gamer" is not some exclusive sought-after title reserved only for people who decide to dedicate their lives to it.
This elitism within gaming is really really pathetic[/QUOTE]
I think people are mad about what a "true gamer" is is because more casual players give more experienced gamers a bad name or are considered the lowest denominator. I think it applies to any collective group of fans or community. It's like saying you're a Star Wars fan and then saying you've only watched the prequels. Or if you're a Legend of Zelda fan and yet you keep mixing up Link's name with Zelda.
That's my take anyway.
[QUOTE=ashxu;41178892]I think people are mad about what a "true gamer" is is because more casual players give more experienced gamers a bad name or are considered the lowest denominator. I think it applies to any collective group of fans or community. It's like saying you're a Star Wars fan and then saying you've only watched the prequels. Or if you're a Legend of Zelda fan and yet you keep mixing up Link's name with Zelda.
That's my take anyway.[/QUOTE]
This hits the nail on the head over why people get aggressive over labels etc.
If you disregard the internet for a moment, groups are an extremely important aspect in terms of society, we label ourselves and have identifying group traits, inside jokes ('memes') etc so that we can re-enforce our bonds with other group members by being alike, there's usually an unwritten initiation process/standard that needs to be met for someone to be considered part of the group by its members.
The reason people get massively defensive over their group or clique becoming a mainstream thing because it tends to water down the identifying factors and makes the group lose its original identity. After all, if literally any person can be accepted by others as being part of a group without having any identifying traits of said group, then the group may as well just not exist because there is very little common ground to strengthen the bonds of its members.
Most people have experienced this at some point in their life with something.
The way the OP video is reacting to it is dumb, though, acting like a spoiled child that is being forced to share toys. The process of something becoming mainstream isn't something that can be stopped, the only way to deal with it is to let other people label themselves however they want but tighten your own circle rather than being elitist and lashing out over what makes you a 'true' gamer.
[QUOTE=cr2142;41172680]I dont give a shit if a girl plays games, just when their like "Im a [B]Girl[/B] Gamer" Emphasising the fact that they are a girl pisses me off. I honestly dont care what gender you are, just play the fucking game.[/QUOTE]
I agree completely.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41172687]I dont give a shit if a hardcore gamer plays games, just when their like "Im a [B]Hardcore[/B] Gamer" Emphasising the fact that they are a Hardcore gamer pisses me off. I honestly dont care how many hours you have, just play the fucking game[/QUOTE]
I agree completely.
"Just play the fucking game" sums it up pretty well. Even the guy in the vid said that your gender is irrelevant when playing games. So when you start making a big deal out of your gender instead of just playing the fucking game, you piss people off. Same thing if you would brag how much of a hardcore gamer you are. Just play the fucking game.
And those "gurl gamers" exist. They are just very rare. I've played WoW in a big community. Around 30% of players in there were female. None of them was an attention whore for being a girl or anything for that matter, but that might be due to average age being 30+. I've also got a chick gamer friend and she never makes a big deal out of it. And then you'll go to a CoD or CS match where there's a girl who never shuts the fuck up but barely talks about what's happening in the game. And if you dare to tell her to stop talking for at least 10 seconds you first get teamkilled, then called names and then banned if one of the white knights happen to have admin.
It's really sad that "gurl gamers" exist and that they ruin the fun for all normal girls who just want to play games. Also that there are so many people quick to judge and think that all female gamers are attention whores. And that there are those white knights who would do everything for a girl they've met online, since they don't have any interaction with girls in RL.
I didn't know Will Smith still plays videogames.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41180603]
"Just play the fucking game" sums it up pretty well. [B]Even the guy in the vid said that your gender is irrelevant when playing games[/B]. So when you start making a big deal out of your gender instead of just playing the fucking game, you piss people off. Same thing if you would brag how much of a hardcore gamer you are. Just play the fucking game.[/QUOTE]
then why does he care so much that women are playing games.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41180603]And those "gurl gamers" exist.[/QUOTE]
no they don't. annoying people exist in all genders.
[QUOTE=Nukefuzz;41173177][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YYZNSx2ADk[/media]
It's actually a good song in full, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I like dubstep, I just think the intro presented itself like loads of Cowwadoody montages and distorted the song. Not to mention horrible fonts.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41180873]then why does he care so much that women are playing games.
[B]no they don't. annoying people exist in all genders.[/B][/QUOTE]
True but we call the female annoying girl gamers "Gurl gamerz" and the male annoying guy gamers "annoying fucking dipshits who cant listen" I mean have you seen a DSP vid or thread? heh.
[QUOTE=TheCombine;41174485][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8v2HvdMC0[/media][/QUOTE]
This makes me really sad because he gets incredibly viewhits and people like me don't.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41180873]then why does he care so much that women are playing games.[/QUOTE]
I don't think he does. 1:55 to 2:23 he uses some other female gamers as positive example.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41180873]no they don't. annoying people exist in all genders.[/QUOTE]
Wait, you said they don't exist and then you said they do. "Gurl gamer" is a name mainly for a female who's attention whoring ingame and she uses the fact that she's a girl as means to get attention. And there are some girls who do it. Now sure there are annoying males playing games. Nobody said otherwise. They just don't really have [B]a[/B] name. We just call them anything from morons through fuckwits through trolls to sperglords.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41180999]I don't think he does. 1:55 to 2:23 he uses some other female gamers as positive example.
Wait, you said they don't exist and then you said they do. "Gurl gamer" is a name mainly for a female who's attention whoring ingame and she uses the fact that she's a girl as means to get attention. And there are some girls who do it. Now sure there are annoying males playing games. Nobody said otherwise. They just don't really have [B]a[/B] name. We just call them anything from morons through fuckwits through trolls to sperglords.[/QUOTE]
"gurl gamerz" don't exists, females who also happen to play games do. yeah some of them are annoying but to label them "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they're females is idiotic and pathetic.
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;41180930]True but we call the female annoying girl gamers "Gurl gamerz" and the male annoying guy gamers "annoying fucking dipshits who cant listen" I mean have you seen a DSP vid or thread? heh.[/QUOTE]
exactly my point. why isn't DSP or any other annoying male gamer a "gamer guy"
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
because its pathetic to insult someone using their own gender but hey its ok because gaming is an ~all boys club~ right guys??
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]"gurl gamerz" don't exists, females who also happen to play games do. yeah some of them are annoying but to label them "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they're females is idiotic and pathetic.
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
exactly my point. why isn't DSP or any other annoying male gamer a "gamer guy"
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
because its pathetic to insult someone using their own gender but hey its ok because gaming is an ~all boys club~ right guys??[/QUOTE]
You have the debate prowess of a radical feminist. Why reply when you know it's gonna lead to nowhere?
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;41181160]You have the debate prowess of a radical feminist. Why reply when you know it's gonna lead to nowhere?[/QUOTE]
i wasn't trying to debate, just have a discussion
debates on FP usually involve anger
sorry though.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]"gurl gamerz" don't exists, females who also happen to play games do. yeah some of them are annoying but to label them "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they're females is idiotic and pathetic.
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
exactly my point. why isn't DSP or any other annoying male gamer a "gamer guy"
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
because its pathetic to insult someone using their own gender but hey its ok because gaming is an ~all boys club~ right guys??[/QUOTE]
who the fuck said gaming is an all boys club. you're just pulling shit out of your ass and arguing for attention.
Yes, you are. Don't fucking deny it, you just want to get attention.
[QUOTE=Van-man;41172187][IMG]http://lolbot.net/pix/5314.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
in all the years I've played video games I don't think I have ever seen this happen. Maybe I have like once, not sure. Just Fedora Autists overreacting as usual.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]"gurl gamerz" don't exists, [/QUOTE]
How the fuck do you know that? I already told you what "gurl gamer" means.
[quote]"Gurl gamer" is a name mainly for a female who's attention whoring ingame and she uses the fact that she's a girl as means to get attention.[/quote]
And I assure you there are some girls like that.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]females who also happen to play games do. yeah some of them are annoying but to label them "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they're females is idiotic and pathetic.[/QUOTE]
They aren't labeled "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they are females. Do you have problems with reading? They are called like that because they are attention whores. Only total idiots would think that all female gamers are "gurl gamerz".
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]exactly my point. why isn't DSP or any other annoying male gamer a "gamer guy"[/QUOTE]
Because nobody goes "look I'm a guy and I'm playing video games lol xD". There are drunk idiots, hardcore pro idiots, noobs, campers, microphone chewers, trolls, mic spammers and all other kinds of annoying players. The one that happens to be attention whoring because she's a girl is called "gurl gamer".
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]because its pathetic to insult someone using their own gender but hey its ok because gaming is an ~all boys club~ right guys??[/QUOTE]
What the fuck does "using their own gender" even mean? And why are you so obsessed about fighting the "all boys club" oppression? Nobody said that girls shouldn't play games. Just that there are some annoying female attention whores in games and that they are called "gurl gamers".
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181176]i wasn't trying to debate, just have a discussion
debates on FP usually involve anger
sorry though.[/QUOTE]
That was a discussion? You making some weird passive aggressive "oh but its okay because its ~all boys club~" on almost every reply? That's more like instigating.
From what I've seen, you've completely missed the point of the video by relying on what you ASSUMED he meant, not the literal event. Quit trying to pick fights in order to feel important. It's literally leading nowhere.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;41181242]in all the years I've played video games I don't think I have ever seen this happen. Maybe I have like once, not sure. Just Fedora Autists overreacting as usual.[/QUOTE]
it's almost like it's a comic that exaggerates for humor, kind of like all comics
[QUOTE=TheCombine;41174485][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8v2HvdMC0[/media][/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/GhFMbv.png[/img]
DSP is so god damn stupid
[QUOTE=Sheet;41181202]who the fuck said gaming is an all boys club. you're just pulling shit out of your ass and arguing for attention.
Yes, you are. Don't fucking deny it, you just want to get attention.[/QUOTE]
ty for assuming you know everything im doing
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;41181253]That was a discussion? You making some weird passive aggressive "oh but its okay because its ~all boys club~" on almost every reply? That's more like instigating.
From what I've seen, you've completely missed the point of the video by relying on what you ASSUMED he meant, not the literal event. Quit trying to pick fights in order to feel important. It's literally leading nowhere.[/QUOTE]
im not trying to feel important? i feel you on the being passive aggressive thing, that's my bad, but im not trying to pick any fights
sheesh
[QUOTE=Antdawg;41175043]Since when has mainstream = casual? What is wrong with playing those games anyways?
The elitism in the PC gaming community is disgusting. Just like the whole PC master race attitude. Sometimes I feel ashamed that I'm a part of a community with such morons.[/QUOTE]
I've seen far more elitism on forums about consoles (Gamefaqs) to "casuals" who don't like Final Fantasy or Metal Gear than I've ever seen of any other forum in my life. It doesn't matter though, most gamers are just launching up their game and having fun, not talking about imaginary console wars or console vs PC wars.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41181244]How the fuck do you know that? I already told you what "gurl gamer" means.
And I assure you there are some girls like that.
They aren't labeled "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they are females. Do you have problems with reading? They are called like that because they are attention whores. Only total idiots would think that all female gamers are "gurl gamerz".
Because nobody goes "look I'm a guy and I'm playing video games lol xD". There are drunk idiots, hardcore pro idiots, noobs, campers, microphone chewers and all other kinds of annoying players. The one that happens to be attention whoring because she's a girl is called "gurl gamer".
What the fuck does "using their own gender" even mean? And why are you so obsessed about fighting the "all boys club" oppression? Nobody said that girls shouldn't play games. Just that there are some annoying female attention whores in games and that they are called "gurl gamers".[/QUOTE]
just explain this to me then
why is it when you insult someone who's a female and also a gamer, the instant default is to insult them using their own gender and call them "gurl gamerz"
but when you insult a guy who also happens to be a gamer, you use a myriad of insults. such as [QUOTE]There are drunk idiots, hardcore pro idiots, noobs, campers, microphone chewers and all other kinds of annoying players.[/QUOTE]
i guess i can understand if they're going OOOH LOOK AT ME IM A GIRL OOOH but i've literally never seen that happens. what more often than not happens is "hey guys" "OMG ARE U A GIRL I BET U SUCK AT THIS GAME GO BACK TO THE KITCHEN LMAO"
[QUOTE=GeneralMoosen;41175607]"looll i just finished playing video gamez im such a no life!! XD"
"Oh cool! What's your favorite game? I like the Final Fantasy series the bes-"
" ew wtf get away your such nerd stop talking to me"[/QUOTE]
tell me more about how your heart was crushed by a random imaginary girl
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181296]
im not trying to feel important? i feel you on the being passive aggressive thing, that's my bad, but im not trying to pick any fights
sheesh[/QUOTE]
As you can see from the above posts, it is causing some shit slinging, even if it was unintentional.
I'm all for a good discussion, but there are less trivial things to talk about than 3 pages of a Nick Cannon video.
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;41181366]As you can see from the above posts, it is causing some shit slinging, even if it was unintentional.
I'm all for a good discussion, but there are less trivial things to talk about than 3 pages of a Nick Cannon video.[/QUOTE]
wasn't my intention but yea i guess
w/e i'll just keep quiet now. too many angry people whenever it comes to this shit
and stay out
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41181113]"gurl gamerz" don't exists, females who also happen to play games do. yeah some of them are annoying but to label them "gurl gamerz" simply on the fact that they're females is idiotic and pathetic.
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
[B]exactly my point. why isn't DSP or any other annoying male gamer a "gamer guy"[/B]
[editline]25th June 2013[/editline]
because its pathetic to insult someone using their own gender but hey its ok because gaming is an ~all boys club~ right guys??[/QUOTE]
Let's twist this around a bit. Would you prefer girl gamers to be referred to as "silly cunts", "attention-whoring bitches" or "cancer of gaming"?
[sp]I don't think you want that[/sp]
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